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  1. #201

    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    agree ko ani kay repulsive kaayo ni hunahunaon oi. mura ta og mga animals ani og batasan, mao bitaw nangutana jud ko if kato ba naa sa leviticus nga gi bawal na sa ginoo ang incest gibasi ba to sa moral values sa ginoo or unsa ba kay silent man ang bible sa reason science man ang ila gipatubag ug di man ang bible.

    then nganong sa kaniadto ok man sa ginoo ang pakig hilawas sa kaugalingong igsoon? mao ra ba ni pamaagi nga managhan ang tao sa kalibotan ato nga panahon?

    OR was there something else? like another race perhaps beside nila Adam and Eve?
    wala man nimo tarunga sabot akong reply boss..

    mo make sense baya, pwd matubag sa imong mga pangutana.

    naa lang lain nmo gusto nga punto ipa kita.

    with all my instinct gi base to sa morality sa bible.. unsa paman diay. then ingon ka why gi tugot to at first then later on gi prohibit? Contradicting? naa pod sa ako reply before.

  2. #202
    kanang Bible, wala na cya gi suwat sa Ginoo mismo, it was inspired but naay human authors ana and their personal opinions affected the contents of the book.

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGargoyle View Post
    kanang Bible, wala na cya gi suwat sa Ginoo mismo, it was inspired but naay human authors ana and their personal opinions affected the contents of the book.
    aside sa 4 evangelists, gi edit pa jd na sa kapila, filter and dli needed or what can make the bible look less "holy"

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    wala na gi specific ug gi specify nganu sa bible bro? naa man cguro.. These prohibitions are found predominantly in Leviticus 18:8-18 and 20:11-21, but also in Deuteronomy. They rather emphasize o morality, and dli dogmatic ang bible? I sincerely doubt that.


    unsa man diay sa imong reason nganu gi prohibit ni sa bible?

    It was not until many centuries later that humanity discovered the genetic reason that incest is unsafe and unwise.

    wla man diha naka butang kung ngano gi bawal na sa ginoo ang osa ka butang nga iyang gi mugna in the first place. di ba ingon ninyo nga saona ok ra makig hilawas sa igsoon og nausab na pagka abot ni Moses.

    ingon mo nga morality pero ang tubag ninyo is genetic code, w/c has nothing to do with morality, kay sa ato pa kung di pa corruption sa genetic code puede ra manghilawas ang mga igsoon? very repulsive, you don t need a bible for this to know nga sayop na.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    daghan jd na ang naa sa silence of the scripture boss.. pero in line sa thread, murag self explanatory raman cguro pero kaning storya bah na daghan sanga tungod kay dli completo. And to add sa topic about incest sa bible, naa man, clear and simple. The most commonly thought-of examples are the sons/daughters of Adam and Eve (Genesis 4). Abraham marrying his half-sister Sarah (Genesis 20:12), Lot and his daughters (Genesis 19), Moses’ father Amram who married his aunt Jochebed (Exodus 6:20), and David’s son Amnon with his half-sister Tamar (2 Samuel 13).

    Bastos o dli? Kani man gud ang TS, ang huna2x murag canal..


    It is important to distinguish between incestuous relationships prior to God commanding against them (Leviticus 18:6-1 and incest that occurred after God’s commands had been revealed. Until God commanded against it, it was not incest.


    way mag buot.
    useless ning-tubaga bai sa taw0 nga wla ga-tu0 sa Absolute Sovereignty sa Gino0...hehe.

    Per0 ngan0ng ka-ing0n pud ka murag canal ang huna2 sa TS? hehe, na curious sad k0 hinu0n.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyGargoyle View Post
    my opinion lang brad ngano,,, is because gamay ra kaayo ang mga tawo then lagyo lagyo pa gyud sila, thinking that Jews are sheep herders. they may not encounter a single person in the course of years because they are busy in the mountains herding the sheep. and their biological clock is ticking so they have to find a way to reproduce. luod paminawon but sometimes the daughter has to make the sacrifice and be a wife to his father or brother. kana ra gyud bible story ni Isaac ug Rebeccah na mo-cross pa ug desert si Isaac para makakita ug wife, and it took him years para magka uyab. dili gyud lalim sa ilang panahon. the easiest way then is to marry your sibling, or even your own father.

    God did command them to "go forth and multiply" but dili kaayo klaro ang instruction mao siguro usahay unayon pud nila ilang igsoon. LOL. later nila na found out na maka-cause ni ug abnormalidad sa taw mao gi ban na lang gyud ang pag unay sa mag igsoon. just my 25 cents though.

    I remember one of my teachers in college gave a hypothetical scenaro -- post apocalypse then kami ra sa akong family ang nabilin sa tibuok kalibutan and we need to repopulate the earth. we have no choice but to commit incest gyud , kay mao ang sakto nga buhaton for the moment.
    pagbuhat na sa Jews as a nation bai, di naman puede ang makig hilawas sa mga igsoon, w/c is good ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    wala man nimo tarunga sabot akong reply boss..

    mo make sense baya, pwd matubag sa imong mga pangutana.

    naa lang lain nmo gusto nga punto ipa kita.

    with all my instinct gi base to sa morality sa bible.. unsa paman diay. then ingon ka why gi tugot to at first then later on gi prohibit? Contradicting? naa pod sa ako reply before.
    wala koy laing ponto ipa kita, ako ra na gipakita ang contradiction ninyo.

    then ang ka huyang sa inyong pag resolba sa contradicting nga mga verses. no other agenda but kana ra jud.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    mao lagi na akong ponto, nga wa na sa bible nga answer because the bible is silent mao ng ni ingon in my previous posts nga we can use sources nga wala sa bible to come up with an answer.

    pero ang problema lang ani nga approach is any answer is as good as the one given above w/c is genetic ang reason kay ngano? di man dogmatic ang bible sa pagtu bag ani nga issue.

    then osa pod nga question, sa ato kining prohibition is based on god's aesthetic preference and not by his moral values.
    This brings me to ask questions like: How can you know God's aesthetic preference and how can you benchmark/measure His moral values?

    murag nakita man gud nak0 ni several times na sa kani na thread...

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by silentnuker View Post
    This brings me to ask questions like: How can you know God's aesthetic preference and how can you benchmark/measure His moral values?

    murag nakita man gud nak0 ni several times na sa kani na thread...
    na mao sab na akong pangutana.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    wla man diha naka butang kung ngano gi bawal na sa ginoo ang osa ka butang nga iyang gi mugna in the first place. di ba ingon ninyo nga saona ok ra makig hilawas sa igsoon og nausab na pagka abot ni Moses.
    naa kay common sense? In this approach murag wala na gi explain sa Ginoo siguro, mo dig in more sa genetics and all. dli kaha sila ma tagbaw ug sabot? Anyway, contradicting, sakto na usab. sama ra sad pod na sa daghan na usab from old testament to new testament.

    ingon mo nga morality pero ang tubag ninyo is genetic code, w/c has nothing to do with morality, kay sa ato pa kung di pa corruption sa genetic code puede ra manghilawas ang mga igsoon?
    morality btaw ang na mention sa bible, which later on sa naa na tay technology sa pag discover unsay reason sa abnormality usa ang incest kay ma corrupt ang genes.

    very repulsive, you don t need a bible for this to know nga sayop na.
    If na himugso ka sa una panahon before ni moses, kahibaw kaha ka ana? i doubt that.. karon kahibaw naka tungod sa information na imo na basa sa technology ug uban pa.. pero if imo e consider sa una libog ug lisod. na unsa man tawn ka.. sabta. bible lage ang gi tira, gi himong sad-an..

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentnuker View Post
    useless ning-tubaga bai sa taw0 nga wla ga-tu0 sa Absolute Sovereignty sa Gino0...hehe.

    Per0 ngan0ng ka-ing0n pud ka murag canal ang huna2 sa TS? hehe, na curious sad k0 hinu0n.
    mamo pod.. ako lang gi tubag pod..

    expression ra na bro, tinambay na expression hahaha..

    labi na naay mo sulti "bastos", kung la relate ka.

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    If you want inputs and ideas... listen and analize the answers gikan sa atong mga igsoon diri sa istorya. Ayaw pud supha pagtubag. You start a thread, expect good and bad answers.

    Ako ika-suggest bro, apilag basa ang New testament, kay kung OLD testament ra, mura ra kag nagbasa ug title. Old to New, cover to cover. Im sure, after nimo basa - without other people's inputs, naa kay masabtan.

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