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  1. #1181

    ^hahaha! you talk as if this country became financially-independent since marcos...

  2. #1182
    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    ^hahaha! you talk as if this country became financially-independent since marcos...
    that is why i wrote "sinkhole".
    we were not able to fully-recover from the debt that he left us.

  3. #1183
    Misamot ang sinkhole when saint cory's term.Maayo man to marcos until now gamit gihapon iya nabuhat.Kanang gyud BNPP sakyan gyud sa politika.

  4. #1184
    Quote Originally Posted by dulasnom View Post
    that is the legacy of marcos.
    he will always be remembered as the president who placed the filipinos in the sinkhole of debt.
    Kinahanglan man jd ka mangutang kung sama nato nga walay pang capital diba? kay kung gtarung palang unta na sa mga sumusunod ang mga napatukod gkan sa utang.. mabayran ra unta na.. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    take note daghan GOCCs gi create sa iyang time, income generating man na; so kanang mga utang, calculated na mabayaran.
    Pareho na tana ta sa China ron na Billions of money created by their GOCCs. Tana na address na mga needs ron.

    I.Blame ninyo mga presidente hilig ug privatize kay mas worst pa na sa kawat... asa ka income generating ibaligya sa private sector na kwarta na tana na sa mga Pinoy. Kinsa man ning mga presidente ni... kana si Cory ug Penoy (daghan gibaligya, didto lang mukuha kwarta sa mga cronies) ug i.apil pa na si Ramos kay gibaligya ang Petron. Kaning mga loss income pwede man ni ibayad sa utang.

    Kung tan.aw ninyo sayop ning utang.. Cmon Cory was in the position not to pay this debt or atleast ask for lower interest but she honored that debt, kay gusto pud niya mangutang
    karun sir agree jd kayo ko nmu ane..

    Mao btw daghan GOCCS gitukod si FM kay mao unta nay maka generate og income nato. dili kay mag cge lang tag salig sa tax sa katawhan. nga number 1 maepektuhan mga ordinary nga tao..

    Mao sad na ako nabantayan sa china daghan kaayo silag mga state companies nga usa sa source of income nila

  5. #1185
    Maghisgot gani ug marcos utang ug Martial law dayon masulod sa utok sa mga tawo.Daghan nakalimot ug wa nasayod sa mga gipangtukod ni FM until now gigamit gihapon,ang ila nahibaw-an gud sa uban puros utang ang pinas.Murag insik mangutang ug capital para negosyo.

  6. #1186
    Quote Originally Posted by johnjob View Post
    Maghisgot gani ug marcos utang ug Martial law dayon masulod sa utok sa mga tawo.
    i don't blame them...as a kid born in the 80's and started education after "people power", most or all books are about that too...

    we hear the dams, bridges, hospitals, the schools, the-others-that-majority-of-us-don't-know things...but NOT that it was made during marcos time...

    brainwashing started after "people power"...

  7. #1187
    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    i don't blame them...as a kid born in the 80's and started education after "people power", most or all books are about that too...

    we hear the dams, bridges, hospitals, the schools, the-others-that-majority-of-us-don't-know things...but NOT that it was made during marcos time...

    brainwashing started after "people power"...
    lolz... i was born in the early 70's and i know what i see.
    that was the darkest moment with regards to human rights so far for me.
    the stories you hear today are true and were not made for brainwashing.
    my grandfather was a public official and even if our family was in the side of
    marcos, we were still afraid of being mistaken by the military as a foe.
    during a referendum for the extension of marcos' term as president & prime minister,
    my father was one of those being abducted from the voting precinct but was released
    in the next baranggay after being known as a marcos' supporter.
    so don't tell us that martial law was a made-up story for brainwashing. that's funny...

    below is a clip of my post about marcos on the other thread:

    for 20 years nga siya ang presidente sa pinas, unsa may iyang nabuhat
    nga maayo dri sa vismin aside sa san juanico ug mactan bridge?
    yes, daghan siya ug mga proyekto (mostly sa luzon area) compared sa
    ubang presidente pero iya na gibuhat for a span of 20 years.
    usa pa, pwerti dako-a ug utang sa pinas during his time.
    pasabot ana nga mga projects kay gikan sa utang.
    asa man diay padung ang tax sa mga taw sa iyang panahon?
    considering sad nga daghan mga state-run companies during his time.
    meaning, daghan unta ug sources of income ang gobyerno aside sa tax.
    so, kinsa man ang naka-pahimus sa income sa mga state-run companies?
    ang iyang mga cronies diba? so, mau pa nga ibaligya to private corporations
    kay wala makapahimus ang mga taw ana.


    Last edited by dulasnom; 08-07-2015 at 12:00 PM.

  8. #1188
    just to be honest, and i dont give a damn what others may think but i just find it somewhat queer that for all the bad things i heard about marcos, i genuinely felt proud being a filipino upon seeing that video of marcos delivering a speech before the americans so impressed also of the kind of reception they got in washington. during marcos' time it was clear that among the asean countries, the philippines was highly regarded by the Americans at that time. for sure, nobody could say the same at present.

  9. #1189
    Quote Originally Posted by dulasnom View Post
    lolz... i was born in the early 70's and i know what i see.
    that was the darkest moment with regards to human rights so far for me.
    the stories you hear today are true and were not made for brainwashing.
    my grandfather was a public official and even if our family was in the side of
    marcos, we were still afraid of being mistaken by the military as a foe.
    during a referendum for the extension of marcos' term as president & prime minister,
    my father was one of those being abducted from the voting precinct but was released
    in the next baranggay after being known as a marcos' supporter.
    so don't tell us that martial law was a made-up story for brainwashing. that's funny...

    below is a clip of my post about marcos on the other thread:

    for 20 years nga siya ang presidente sa pinas, unsa may iyang nabuhat
    nga maayo dri sa vismin aside sa san juanico ug mactan bridge?
    yes, daghan siya ug mga proyekto (mostly sa luzon area) compared sa
    ubang presidente pero iya na gibuhat for a span of 20 years.
    usa pa, pwerti dako-a ug utang sa pinas during his time.
    pasabot ana nga mga projects kay gikan sa utang.
    asa man diay padung ang tax sa mga taw sa iyang panahon?
    considering sad nga daghan mga state-run companies during his time.
    meaning, daghan unta ug sources of income ang gobyerno aside sa tax.
    so, kinsa man ang naka-pahimus sa income sa mga state-run companies?
    ang iyang mga cronies diba? so, mau pa nga ibaligya to private corporations
    kay wala makapahimus ang mga taw ana.


    so karun sir knsa man puy nakapahimos sa mga state run companies nga gepamaligya? diba ang gma circle of friends ra pd sa mga aquino? ..

    Maski karun man pud cguro sir murag toa man jd sa manila ang mga dagkong proyekto..

    Murag tanan man cgurong country nga mubuhat og dagkong project kay mangutang man jd na sir.. Ang nakapait og nangutang ta sauna nga walay nakita nga projects diba?

    Mao nay ge engun nga nganong mahadlok man ka sauna kung law abiding citizen lng ka..

  10. #1190
    Quote Originally Posted by 30121895 View Post
    so karun sir knsa man puy nakapahimos sa mga state run companies nga gepamaligya? diba ang gma circle of friends ra pd sa mga aquino? ..

    Maski karun man pud cguro sir murag toa man jd sa manila ang mga dagkong proyekto..

    Murag tanan man cgurong country nga mubuhat og dagkong project kay mangutang man jd na sir.. Ang nakapait og nangutang ta sauna nga walay nakita nga projects diba?

    Mao nay ge engun nga nganong mahadlok man ka sauna kung law abiding citizen lng ka..
    dili ta maka-pataka ug tudlo kung kinsa ang naka-pahimus sa pag-pamaligya sa mga state-run companies kay wa tay ika-support nga documents. normally, ang halin kay padung sa gov't funds pero kung mangutana mo kung naa bay na-divert nga mga kwarta sa personal pockets, d sad ko kaingon nga wala. as i've said, wala koy data nga ika-support.

    with regards sa mga projects, bintaha na karon kay naa nay mga projects sa vismin compared sa una.
    ug dili palang sad unta corrupt ang atong mga tongressman kay mas daghan pa jud unta.

    yes, sakto ka, kasagaran sa mga dagkong projects kay loan jud na siya.
    pero dapat gi-tan-aw sad unta ang atong capability to pay.
    imagina lang nga kung pareha ni marcos ang tanan presidente nga mo-doble ang debt (utang)
    after their term, wa nay bili ang pilipinas karon.

    sa una boss, d ka kaingon nga d ka mahadlok basta law-abiding ka kay way due process sa una.
    kung dudahan gani ka sa una, adto na ka makit-an sa kasagbotan. uso kau salvage sa una.
    Last edited by dulasnom; 08-07-2015 at 01:27 PM.

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