Islam. A Religion of Peace or Violence?

[MavsMan]

1 Timothy 2:5 - For one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was truly and properly a man, having a perfect human body and soul, and is often called a man in the New Testament. But this does not prove that he was not also divine - anymore than his being called God (John 1:1; John 20:28; Romans 9:5; 1John 5:20; Hebrews 1:8 ), proves that he was not also a man. The use of the word man here was probably designed to intimate that though he was divine, it was in his human nature that we are to consider him as discharging the office.

[labtingaw]

ang kanang bunyagan ka nga bata pa kay unbiblical kaau na.. Jesus was baptized at the age of 30.

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. -James 1:27

@SioDenz ....

[MasterK]

"A religion is the same as your FAITH since mao nay Identity sa imung pagtoo kay ang imung Religion mao nay nag tudlo nimu, ug ang teaching sa religion"

I didn't choose this religion. And if ur a catholic also, then it's not you who chose your religion.

Gpabunyagan ta nga way pay buot.

So technically gadaku ta as a catholic.

Kung bunyagan ta sa age mga nna tay buot or lets say 18. Kay di ko pabunyag sa katoliko knowing what i've learned so far..

Buy for now since wala pako ka decide..
Magpaka technicaly catholic lang sa, even though ako faith and beleifs kay wal na gasunod sa catholic doctrines.

OT:
can infants and young children be excluded from the sacrament of baptism?

[labtingaw]

OT:
can infants and young children be excluded from the sacrament of baptism?

"A natural question would be, “does your age make a difference?” More specifically, you may ask whether infants or young children should be baptized. It may help if you understand where the idea and practice of baptizing infants came from. Around 400 AD, a man named Augustine came up with the idea of “original sin.” This basically said that everyone inherits the sin of Adam at birth and is therefore separated from God from the beginning of their life. Of course, this caused parents to become concerned over the fate of their children, should they die before “getting right with God.” Since only one of the four steps required to get right with God could be done by (or to) an infant, they decided to baptize them to “take care of the original sin.” Since it is risky to immerse an infant, these people decided to sprinkle them with water instead. Thus, both baptizing infants and baptizing by sprinkling came from human ideas. They did not come from the Bible.

If we look in the Bible we see that children are never seen to “accept Christ” (and therefore get right with God). It is also interesting that God never tells us what to do to keep a child safe. Did He just forget this important point, letting many children go to Hell and suffer eternally? No. A child is safe in the arms of God until they can understand how to be saved by accepting Jesus as their savior. (See 2 Samuel chapter 12, verses 22 and 23 along with Matthew chapter 18, verse 10.) Thus, only adults and older children (who can understand separation from God because of sin and so forth) are at the age when acceptance of Christ is possible."

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/get_wet.shtml

[MasterK]

Gpabunyagan ta nga way pay buot.

So technically gadaku ta as a catholic.

Kung bunyagan ta sa age mga nna tay buot or lets say 18. Kay di ko pabunyag sa katoliko knowing what i've learned so far..

Buy for now since wala pako ka decide..
Magpaka technicaly catholic lang sa, even though ako faith and beleifs kay wal na gasunod sa catholic doctrines.

so, para nimo nagpataka lang pabunyag nimo imo ginikanan? sa bible klaro gidili gyud ang pagpabunyag sa bata? dili nato apilon dala ang mga bata ngadto ni Christ?

[Da Fai]

so, para nimo nagpataka lang pabunyag nimo imo ginikanan? sa bible klaro gidili gyud ang pagpabunyag sa bata? dili nato apilon dala ang mga bata ngadto ni Christ?

our parents are partially forced because of religion and tradition..
wala gibutang sa bible specifically, but just and example...
gi explain naman diba kung kinsa ang gahimo anang baptism? please re-read nalng the thread boss, para dili ka maglibog...

[MasterK]

our parents are partially forced because of religion and tradition..
wala gibutang sa bible specifically, but just and example...
gi explain naman diba kung kinsa ang gahimo anang baptism? please re-read nalng the thread boss, para dili ka maglibog...

huh, kamo ra iay na usa?

katoliko sa d ka by baptism?

[labtingaw]

so, para nimo nagpataka lang pabunyag nimo imo ginikanan? sa bible klaro gidili gyud ang pagpabunyag sa bata? dili nato apilon dala ang mga bata ngadto ni Christ?

" If we look in the Bible we see that children are never seen to “accept Christ” (and therefore get right with God). It is also interesting that God never tells us what to do to keep a child safe. Did He just forget this important point, letting many children go to Hell and suffer eternally? No. A child is safe in the arms of God until they can understand how to be saved by accepting Jesus as their savior. (See 2 Samuel chapter 12, verses 22 and 23 along with Matthew chapter 18, verse 10.) Thus, only adults and older children (who can understand separation from God because of sin and so forth) are at the age when acceptance of Christ is possible."

[MasterK]

Around 400 AD, a man named Augustine came up with the idea of “original sin.” This basically said that everyone inherits the sin of Adam at birth and is therefore separated from God from the beginning of their life. Of course, this caused parents to become concerned over the fate of their children, should they die before “getting right with God.” Since only one of the four steps required to get right with God could be done by (or to) an infant, they decided to baptize them to “take care of the original sin.” Since it is risky to immerse an infant, these people decided to sprinkle them with water instead. Thus, both baptizing infants and baptizing by sprinkling came from human ideas. They did not come from the Bible.

If we look in the Bible we see that children are never seen to “accept Christ” (and therefore get right with God). It is also interesting that God never tells us what to do to keep a child safe. Did He just forget this important point, letting many children go to Hell and suffer eternally? No. A child is safe in the arms of God until they can understand how to be saved by accepting Jesus as their savior. (See 2 Samuel chapter 12, verses 22 and 23 along with Matthew chapter 18, verse 10.) Thus, only adults and older children (who can understand separation from God because of sin and so forth) are at the age when acceptance of Christ is possible."

What is Baptism?

sure gyud ni bro si Augustine gyud diay gauna una ani infant baptism?

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@labtingaw ug @Da Fai. hehehe kamo ra ni, usa ra mo ka tawo or kauban mo simbahan?

[MasterK]

" If we look in the Bible we see that children are never seen to “accept Christ” (and therefore get right with God).

pero Christ accept child:
"Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 19:14).

BTW bro OT ta diri. basin mayayay ko sa mods ani. dili na ko moreply diri bro. adto nalang ko sa lain nga thread.