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    Quote Originally Posted by KH0UJ View Post
    Palihug lang kog basa bro para wa tay daghang lalis >>> LINK 1 & LINK 2

    Ground Fault interrupters was not available way back in 1960`s but they already standardized their electrical systems back then, originally they designed their building electrical systems with ground conductors for the main two purpose, lightning safety, and for some frequency emitting units not to interfere with other units...>>> LINK 3

    That`s the reason why the power Supply Unit in our PC`s have capacitors connected from line filter to chassis ground, that is designed for trapping emitting strain frequencies to ground generated by the oscillation of the primary A.C. oscillator, mao pud nay maka kuryente gamay kung di ma connect sa EARTH ground ang mismo PC, I tried removing it on my previous PC`s pero ang resulta nisamut ang emission sa EMI noise nga maka interfere na sa akong FM radio ( minimal distortion) ug sa T.V. (small vertical retraces) inig ON sa akong PC, so I decided to put it back plus connect it to earth ground, karon limpyo na, minimal na ang interference, mu splat na lang siya sa akong VHF tranceiver pero di na siya makita sa TV ug sa FM radio
    Bro, ang GFI is different from equipment grounding conductors...
    OSHA is about protection devices/equipment for workers when performing any, not just electrical, hazardous services. OSHA means Occupational Safety & Health Administration and have nothing to do with electrical statutes. OSHA is concerned with workers' safety issues.

    FCC link was stipulating type of copper cables to be used. FCC dealt with design specification and nothng to do with electrical codes.

    You should read these instead.>>http://fyi.uwex.edu/mrec/files/2011/...g-MREC2010.pdf or this Article 250 - NEC Connect and article 725, Class2 and 3 circuits, from Mike Holt (attended numerous of his lectures)https://www.mikeholt.com/mojonewsarc...s~20021217.htm

    Capacitors in electronics equipment are often times implemented as "grounding capacitors' to allow AC current to pass while blocking DC current. Capacitive Reactance formula; Xc=1/2(3.1415)(Hz)(capacitance in ohms).....zero frequency, in Hz (dc component) is block while AC component is allowed to pass through grounding bus........

    BTW - have fun 'understanding' N.E.C....they didn't call it 'CODE" for nothing

    dili ko tig lalis nimo bro....limited raman akong 'understanding' sa grounding and lightning protection. Na katon lang ko sa mga projects gi design naku for FAA airport tower controls, ospital sa Saudi Arabia, maximum penitentiary., update sa 'back-up' servers for yr2K ug uban projects dili ma mention tungod sa "security' confidentials.

    usa pa.....lightning protection and building grounding system CANNOT be mixed! They are separate.....read last part of article 725


    Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jess_V View Post
    Bro, ang GFI is different from equipment grounding conductors...
    OSHA is about protection devices/equipment for workers when performing any, not just electrical, hazardous services. OSHA means Occupational Safety & Health Administration and have nothing to do with electrical statutes. OSHA is concerned with workers' safety issues.

    FCC link was stipulating type of copper cables to be used. FCC dealt with design specification and nothng to do with electrical codes.

    You should read these instead.>>http://fyi.uwex.edu/mrec/files/2011/...g-MREC2010.pdf or this Article 250 - NEC Connect and article 725, Class2 and 3 circuits, from Mike Holt (attended numerous of his lectures)https://www.mikeholt.com/mojonewsarc...s~20021217.htm

    Capacitors in electronics equipment are often times implemented as "grounding capacitors' to allow AC current to pass while blocking DC current. Capacitive Reactance formula; Xc=1/2(3.1415)(Hz)(capacitance in ohms).....zero frequency, in Hz (dc component) is block while AC component is allowed to pass through grounding bus........

    BTW - have fun 'understanding' N.E.C....they didn't call it 'CODE" for nothing

    dili ko tig lalis nimo bro....limited raman akong 'understanding' sa grounding and lightning protection. Na katon lang ko sa mga projects gi design naku for FAA airport tower controls, ospital sa Saudi Arabia, maximum penitentiary., update sa 'back-up' servers for yr2K ug uban projects dili ma mention tungod sa "security' confidentials.

    usa pa.....lightning protection and building grounding system CANNOT be mixed! They are separate.....read last part of article 725


    Hope this helps
    I dont need to read that, Ived read on that before you did





    FCC and OSHA does NOT implement electrical grounding rules......it is N.E.C. that implements and enforce U.S. electrical (including equipment grounding and lighting protection) building requirements.






    Bro FYI NEC is a book how is it possible nga sila maka enforce? it`s the OSHA and FCC inspectors who enforce and implement the standards basing on that book, im talking about country`s standards, OSHA and FCC is a goverment agency meaning they have a complete manpower to enforce the safety standards while NEC is still a book...

    I myself read on that book to obey and abide their standards, meaning I have a first hand experience kung kinsa nga agency ang nag enforce sa ilang standards on a specific sector, I didnt work there for nothing (7 years)

    Try to watch mythbusters on what happens if lightning strikes on ungrounded house to give you some insights and why are they making it a standard to have it in their building electrical plans...

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    Guys guys... break sah! Wala moy DIY tutorial on layman's terms kai murah samot kalibog for people like me nga dili kaau suhito aning electrical or technical nga terms. So my question now is.. Unsaon para dili mo ground? What do I do and what materials do I need? Hope maka-explain mo. Thank you in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyMaria View Post
    Guys guys... break sah! Wala moy DIY tutorial on layman's terms kai murah samot kalibog for people like me nga dili kaau suhito aning electrical or technical nga terms. So my question now is.. Unsaon para dili mo ground? What do I do and what materials do I need? Hope maka-explain mo. Thank you in advance.
    Pag ugsok og lansang nga taas anywhere sa inyong salog nga dili sagabal. Pag connect og wire gikan sa screw sa chassis padung sa lansang. Pwede ra sa d e connect ang wire gikan sa chassis padung sa pipe sa mcdw kung duoL ra sa imong pc.

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    Corsair K70 Gapanguryente HELP
    Naay nka experience ani dri?
    basta magdugay gani ko og dula medyu magsingot akung kamot unya didto na mag start ang issue...
    Quote Originally Posted by MyMaria View Post
    Guys guys... break sah! Wala moy DIY tutorial on layman's terms kai murah samot kalibog for people like me nga dili kaau suhito aning electrical or technical nga terms. So my question now is.. Unsaon para dili mo ground? What do I do and what materials do I need? Hope maka-explain mo. Thank you in advance.


    as per bro Echelnalf's suggestion. here's a simple diagram ive made for you TS. hope this helps


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    Quote Originally Posted by MyMaria View Post
    Guys guys... break sah! Wala moy DIY tutorial on layman's terms kai murah samot kalibog for people like me nga dili kaau suhito aning electrical or technical nga terms. So my question now is.. Unsaon para dili mo ground? What do I do and what materials do I need? Hope maka-explain mo. Thank you in advance.

    A perfect answer to your question sis nga dili na gyud ka makafeel ug mamahit nga kuryente is to get at least 1 meter of reebar or kabilya 3/8 inch diameter nya i ugsok sa yuta, take note ha yuta (earth) kung sa cemento man gud naay tendency nga dili kaayo siya konnektado sa earth ground so makafeel lang gihapon ka sa gamay nga strain voltage, so ang 1 meter nga kabilya idukduk gyud sa yuta hantud 2 inches na lang ang mugimaw, diha i-connect ang ang #16 nga stranded wire gikan sa chassis sa imong PC.

    If ever layo ra kaayo ang yuta sa inyo pwede ra sa cemento, drill the cement floor until it reaches the earth ground, nya 1 meter gihapon nga kabilya sharo mamahit pa, kung di pa gyud kontento basa-a tubig ang ground rod ug hole nga mu-abot gyud sa yuta para pud humok inig duk duk sa kabilya, in that way di na gyud na kapahit ang kuryente inig hikap nimo sa chassis sa imong PC.

    Ang importante ra gyud nga 100% connected imong chassis sa pure earth ground, ang pinaka perfect gyud nga connected sa earth ground is ang deep well pipes, kay connected siya sa underground water nya pirti pung taasa sa iyang conductor (sometimes 100+ feet) nga sigurado na gyud nga connected siya all the time whether it`s summer or rainy seasons, mumatter man gud sad ang moisture content sa mismo yuta, kung dry ang yuta lesser conductivity to earth ground kung moist ang yuta greater conductivity to earth ground...

    Kana layman`s terms na gyud na ha nya ga binisaya pa gyud ko sharo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyMaria View Post
    Guys guys... break sah! Wala moy DIY tutorial on layman's terms kai murah samot kalibog for people like me nga dili kaau suhito aning electrical or technical nga terms. So my question now is.. Unsaon para dili mo ground? What do I do and what materials do I need? Hope maka-explain mo. Thank you in advance.
    Ipacheck ang inyong balay sis basin natangtang ang main ground or na taya unya na putol. Kana usa ang unaha ug check.
    Ipatanaw ug electrical technician. If wala gani, pabutangi ug ika duha nga ground ang balay ninyo, just to make sure nga ang balay ninyo mismo naay proper grounding.

    Para dili ma kuryentehan, ayaw pag tiniil, pagtsinelas gyud, pwede pud mag gloves ka or basta ayaw i directly hikap nga walay rubber or something nga protection imong kamot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonhartt View Post


    Corsair K70 Gapanguryente HELP
    Naay nka experience ani dri?
    basta magdugay gani ko og dula medyu magsingot akung kamot unya didto na mag start ang issue...
    You are one of the few nga suwertehon aning grounding2x.. Trapohi lang imong kamot permi. Or i check imong keyboard basin nilahos nana didto ang imong singot sa sulod sa keyboard.

    Air dry and keyboard if you have kay for sure ang imong keyboard nasudlan nana ug singot didto sa sulod.
    I properly ground ang imong PC.. pasubayi ug wire ang casing nimo, bisan asa diha if naay screw didto i connect ang wire then iconnect didto anang asa pinaka duol nga linya sa tubo, pwede pud didto anang grounding bar or iron sa telepono or kanang sa kuryente nga grounding bar, or kung wala kay makit-an, pabutangi sa technician kay importante ng grounding.

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