Gays and Lesbians in Churches

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murag mureact jud ko ani bro hehe.. before cguro sila iaccept as servants of the Church.. much better mag-usab or magbag-o sa cguro sila as a true man and woman before sila musulod... just my2cents

what i mean pud is dili ang pagserve sa church, ang pagaaccept sa pag-attend pa man sad hehe, murag sayop bitaw ako giquote kay about naman diay ni sa pagpari ug madre man diay ni hehe

[yhokz101]

Iglesia ni Maria: Welcome ang mga third *** og diretso sila punta sa Langit, basta magdonate lang og 20% sa ilang total income...

this sounds so wrong.. LOL

diretso sa langit basin mag slide2x pa sa rainbow.

Again: who are we to judge?

but if beyond na jd, kanang hardcore homo and gay.. well they NEED to change themselves before anything else if ila gusto jd mag bag-o. You can't expect to be accepted sa usa ka religion or belief if ang binuhatan nmo dakong sayup pod.

[emow]

Iglesia ni Maria: Welcome ang mga third *** og diretso sila punta sa Langit, basta magdonate lang og 20% sa ilang total income monthly...

whatever works..

[Pringle]

this sounds so wrong.. LOL

diretso sa langit basin mag slide2x pa sa rainbow.

Again: who are we to judge?

but if beyond na jd, kanang hardcore homo and gay.. well they NEED to change themselves before anything else if ila gusto jd mag bag-o. You can't expect to be accepted sa usa ka religion or belief if ang binuhatan nmo dakong sayup pod.

I haven't encountered any religion that is correct

They preach peace, but goes all-out on war when their beliefs are threatened. This is why I don't meddle too much with religion, but this very minor issue about gender equality, what have they done wrong? Do they provoke the masses? Are they imposing a threat so appalling that we should just shun them? They are forgetting the one thing they are always preaching about: love. "Love one another" they say, with a double standard attached. "To each his own" they say, and gossips the mistakes you make.

Change is the only constant thing in this world, and I guess it's time for it. A man's redemption being determined by his gender? A straight thief having higher priority in Heaven over the gay humanitarian advocate? Something is wrong.

Leave the judging to the judges. We are mere players waiting to be judged.

[yhokz101]

I haven't encountered any religion that is correct

That is your case, lain man pod ang masulti sa uban tao na nahimutang nag malinawon sa ilang religion. Imo man sad na.

They preach peace, but goes all-out on war when their beliefs are threatened.

Sa unang panahon cguro ug kanang mga radical muslims. anyway mao ra ako na hibaw-an, wko kita Christiano makig gyera kay gi daut si Jesus o ilang Ginoo.

This is why I don't meddle too much with religion, but this very minor issue about gender equality, what have they done wrong? Do they provoke the masses? Are they imposing a threat so appalling that we should just shun them? They are forgetting the one thing they are always preaching about: love. "Love one another" they say, with a double standard attached. "To each his own" they say, and gossips the mistakes you make.

When preaching love and love one another then that's totally ok. By all means, mao na ang core value sa tao jd, love one another. Then again what's not so right is the fact of same s3x relationship, same s3x marriage and same s3x totot.. this is wrong, wala man jd sa maski asa na tinoohan nga gina encourage ni. Gender equality is by right we must fight, it's the act that they are implying we should or must conform to accept it as normal or downright natural, which is not. Shun them, not so, teach them, maybe so. accept them? Probably if they need to change ways. <- mao ni ang usual reaction sa mga tao if imo ko pangutan-on. To each his own, but needless to say, we are in a society, bound to a culture, rules and certain laws.

Change is the only constant thing in this world, and I guess it's time for it. A man's redemption being determined by his gender? A straight thief having higher priority in Heaven over the gay humanitarian advocate? Something is wrong.

Leave the judging to the judges. We are mere players waiting to be judged.

Tha thing here is Gay / Lesbian in Churches. Unless they change their ways (plain maya nalang bah, dli mo kurso sa act of molesting and commiting s3x), then why not who are we to judge sa ilang right to change and desire to serve the Lord. But then again refer to boss marius comment below:

i have no problem if gay or lesbian ang priest or nuns ..................... but i have a problem when a gay priest commits pedophilia and the church don't do anything about it, well, they do something like to transfer the offending priest to another parish

agree ko, dapat naa jd something buhaton aning mga offenders dli ra e transfer or something. offenders man jd ni sila, dapat ma priso jd.

[Pringle]

When preaching love and love one another then that's totally ok. By all means, mao na ang core value sa tao jd, love one another. Then again what's not so right is the fact of same s3x relationship, same s3x marriage and same s3x totot.. this is wrong, wala man jd sa maski asa na tinoohan nga gina encourage ni. Gender equality is by right we must fight, it's the act that they are implying we should or must conform to accept it as normal or downright natural, which is not. Shun them, not so, teach them, maybe so. accept them? Probably if they need to change ways. <- mao ni ang usual reaction sa mga tao if imo ko pangutan-on. To each his own, but needless to say, we are in a society, bound to a culture, rules and certain laws.

Tha thing here is Gay / Lesbian in Churches. Unless they change their ways (plain maya nalang bah, dli mo kurso sa act of molesting and commiting s3x), then why not who are we to judge sa ilang right to change and desire to serve the Lord. But then again refer to boss marius comment below:


agree ko, dapat naa jd something buhaton aning mga offenders dli ra e transfer or something. offenders man jd ni sila, dapat ma priso jd.

Pedophilia is sexual abuse. Many parishes just transfer these offenders to a faraway place and it's not even funny. How often do we see priests and nuns in the news getting jailed? They just sweep it under the rug (mostly). I don't expect a perfect church not because there is no perfect or divine being within the ranks, but because there are limits to what we call "socially acceptable".

When we say s*x, it means that the consenting parties agree to the act and it's never right when priests and nuns do it because they are fully aware that they are breaking their vow of chastity. Sure they can be gay or whatever, but there's a social stigma they have to face. And of course, their conscience.

[yhokz101]

Pedophilia is sexual abuse. Many parishes just transfer these offenders to a faraway place and it's not even funny. How often do we see priests and nuns in the news getting jailed? They just sweep it under the rug (mostly). I don't expect a perfect church not because there is no perfect or divine being within the ranks, but because there are limits to what we call "socially acceptable".

When we say s*x, it means that the consenting parties agree to the act and it's never right when priests and nuns do it because they are fully aware that they are breaking their vow of chastity. Sure they can be gay or whatever, but there's a social stigma they have to face. And of course, their conscience.

So, are you ok or not? To have gays and lesbians in our (or their) churches?

[sniper007]

for me its okay, church is for everyone man. Who are we to judge them?

[yhokz101]

for me its okay, church is for everyone man. Who are we to judge them?

ehem.. this is the case: "should the church allow gays and lesbians to be ordained as priests and/or nuns?" and by that we can safely asssume we meant "homo" for the sake of discussions..

[sniper007]

ehem.. this is the case: "should the church allow gays and lesbians to be ordained as priests and/or nuns?" and by that we can safely asssume we meant "homo" for the sake of discussions..

heheh sorry master, i missed to read the whole thing abi ko ang pasudlon sa simbahan.

ONT:it's very unusual to see priest/nuns that belongs to the third gender who will be there in front preaching us and in this country where majority is catholic i doubt they will agree.

Or maybe wala lang jud ta maanad?