Gays and Lesbians in Churches

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Because it's folly to believe that they love God when they remain in sin. John said it in his letter, "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God."

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So only gays are susceptible to commit sins, i beg to disagree for each and everyone of us does, thus the only way is to follow Jesus Christ which they should not be deprived. They compared to us are just the same in terms of sinning and salvation and evn so they need in depth understanding for what they are is not there own choosing as i may reiterate.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

So only gays are susceptible to commit sins, i beg to disagree for each and everyone of us does, thus the only way is to follow Jesus Christ which they should not be deprived. They compared to us are just the same in terms of sinning and salvation and evn so they need in depth understanding for what they are is not there own choosing as i may reiterate.

I'm not singling out gays.. even straight apil ana..

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have *** with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

hayag pas udtong tutok ang giingon diha ni Pablo pero ambot nganong ang ubang tao mangita man jud ug lusot.

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I'm not singling out gays.. even straight apil ana..

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have *** with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

hayag pas udtong tutok ang giingon diha ni Pablo pero ambot nganong ang ubang tao mangita man jud ug lusot.

Then how did you know that all gays did have s3x with the same gender? my contention is that even though they are born as such we could not say that they do commit the sin the same as us for we are born sinners. it is even a good gesture if they will serve the church for the church practices celibacy at the foremost.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Then how did you know that all gays did have s3x with the same gender? my contention is that even though they are born as such we could not say that they do commit the sin the same as us for we are born sinners. it is even a good gesture if they will serve the church for the church practices celibacy at the foremost.

No they are not born that way. The bible tells us that it is the result of sin.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

It's a curse and the only way to get out of it is through Jesus Christ. That is why gays in churches should be encouraged to repent and change their ways instead of tolerated. Because they are still under the curse of sin, it is not prudent to put them in a position in the church.

Homosexuality is similar to bestiality. It is perversion to God's created order. It is an insult to the creator.

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No they are not born that way. The bible tells us that it is the result of sin.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

It's a curse and the only way to get out of it is through Jesus Christ. That is why gays in churches should be encouraged to repent and change their ways instead of tolerated. Because they are still under the curse of sin, it is not prudent to put them in a position in the church.

if it is not prudent then why we are placing human beings who are also cursed to sin as men of cloth?
that would clearly invoke pure discrimination even in the eyes of GOD whilst a not so Christian way, mostly if is in terms of serving Jesus Christ.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

if it is not prudent then why we are placing human beings who are also cursed to sin as men of cloth?

True believers are no longer under the curse of sin. I'm not saying Christians don't sin, what I'm saying is Christians are not living in sin. There is a change of lifestyle.

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.

Everyone who is in Christ is a new creation

that would clearly invoke pure discrimination even in the eyes of GOD whilst a not so Christian way, mostly if is in terms of serving Jesus Christ.

The bible is actually full of discrimination with regards to holiness and sinfulness. That is why Paul warned the Corinthian church not to associate themselves to people who call themselves brothers but are still living in sin. If Paul is alive today he will surely be greeted with violent reactions because he's telling the Corinthian church to not even eat with these kind of people.

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True believers are no longer under the curse of sin. I'm not saying Christians don't sin, what I'm saying is Christians are not living in sin. There is a change of lifestyle.

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.

Everyone who is in Christ is a new creation



The bible is actually full of discrimination with regards to holiness and sinfulness. That is why Paul warned the Corinthian church not to associate themselves to people who call themselves brothers but are still living in sin. If Paul is alive today he will surely be greeted with violent reactions because he's telling the Corinthian church to not even eat with these kind of people.

We do not have the right to prejudice them like any other sinner for they can always change and serving GOD is a very good gesture towards it. Lastly do not think of them as a mere trash for they are still human beings. I could say give them a chance to repent and to serve for their own salvation and let them share to promote the salvation of others.
Goodnight Bro and GOD BLESS.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

That's not prejudice bro because I'm not judging anyone. I'm only saying what the bible is saying. Kung naa may nag judge it's not me but the word of God. True let's give them chance to repent. That's why I said a couple of posts back that they should repent and change their lifestyle. But to tolerate their lifestyle is another thing. Di man gud na pwede. Lahi ang paghatag ug chance na mo repent ug lahi ang paundayunan sila sa ilang gibati. If they want to serve God, let them repent and change their lifestyle. If di sila mo change sa ilang lifestyle aw ayaw nalang kay kawang ra gihapon ilang pagbudlay. Klaro man ang giingon sa bibliya na di pwede nang ingon-ana.

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Bro [MENTION=77025]NapoleonBlownapart[/MENTION] ... ang bible wala nag mention sa Hormonal Imbalances aning mga Gay which cause sa ilahang abnormal behavioral nga ma attract sila sa same *** but not with the opposite ( that is 100% abnormality ), ... kana nga problema kay lisod even ang mga scientiest wala pajud ka solve ana nga puzzle why there is gay or lesbian ...

God does not hate gays ... ang akong sabot anang homosexuality sa Bible does not only point to gay but even to straight people, perversity does not only apply to them but to all.

Gay can be a Christian if they want to but if they become slave to what they are .. then go to Hell ...