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  1. #61

    @noy
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    Jihad is for self defence as per our muslim brothers always says, but that is not what is written through the Quran and (our media hidden) history books or should i say never been thought to us,.. did you see the latest news ISIS burning of books in mosul? boko haram kidnapping of children girls because they are teached by a westernize education, or hamas funded by UN for development on Gaza strip yet they divert it for tunnel instead and kidnap jews spreading terror etcetera..

    care to watch this scientist bill warner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Alramzz View Post
    @noy
    OT:
    Jihad is for self defence as per our muslim brothers always says, but that is not what is written through the Quran and (our media hidden) history books or should i say never been thought to us,.. did you see the latest news ISIS burning of books in mosul? boko haram kidnapping of children girls because they are teached by a westernize education, or hamas funded by UN for development on Gaza strip yet they divert it for tunnel instead and kidnap jews spreading terror etcetera..

    care to watch this scientist bill warner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
    matud pa aning usa ka Islamic site, kanang gibuhat sa ISIS kay di man daw na Jihad although ISIS declared their deeds as such..
    what they are doing is Plain Terrorism.
    Quran-Islam.org - True Islam
    kanang ISIS bro, di na na muslim..terrorist na na..

    preha ra na sila sa mga Christian kunohay pero grabe kung maka condemn ug ubang tao..Christian pa kaha na?

    naa man pud tay version sa ISIS within the Christian community..basaha gani ni bro
    Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    these people still identify themselves as Chrisitans, pero kahibaw jud ta nga LAGPAS na kaayo na sila sa Kristohanong pagtulon-an

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    naa na sad ka NEFARIAN ha. nagpataka na sad ka ug storya diha.

    nabasa bana nimo ang Quran in it's entirety ??

    kung akong gamiton imong logic na mo ingon ko na tanan nimong pamilya is mga walay klaro kay parehas sila nimo, unsa kaha imong bation ??

    i've read both the bible and Quran front front to back, same sila naay mga joker na mga storya and same sila naay violence na gi-imply ... BUT ... mao ni dapat nimo butang sa imong ulo .... ANG TAO NA NAGBASA ANG IMPORTANT.
    LOL jud anang mo ingon tag pataka ug istorya oi. You have your opinion I have mine - mao rajud ni. Ang maka judge rajud kung kinsa ang sakto or dili kay ang mga readers diri dili kita dili ikaw capiche?

    Ang pangutana: Ug wala ning Quran na libro(any books that promote extremism), naa kaha ning mga EXTREME idealism? Extreme kanang willing mag suicide bombing etc. Take out the head of the snake and order will follow.

    Ang tawo lahi2x the way mo discern(good/bad) ug things. Factors like education, background, history maka influence ana. You CAN'T take that away from a person maski pag unsaon nato. BUT WE CAN PREVENT THAT PERSON FROM BECOMING EXTREME.

    Burn Quran!!

    Laws are written. Ideals are written.

    "Prevention is better than cure"

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    if wala pa gyud nay au ang quran if nag promote gyud na ug violence, nganong perting daghana man g-welcome na mga christians diri sa saudi ??


    cge lang .... nindot man sad na imong sulti na Burn Quran, at least naay reason
    kuan pud boss, naa man puy daghang mga amaw sa una nga ning convert ug Islam dayun sigeg basa ug quran..natarong man pud..hahaha naa ra jud na sa tao...ingun pas istorya sa una... nganu pakasad-on man ang pusil nga di man na mubuto kung wa gikablit...hahaha

  5. #65
    ISIS for me is the true nature of Islam,. and before im contributing a bullet thru zakkat,.

    @ noy
    "Taqiyah" sometimes gives the muslim the shades of their real intention,.

    care to see this Taqiyah (the islamic holy act of lying) Is Onion Shaped |

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    luoya nimo bai oi ..... naa ka diha sa cebu pero grabi imong misunderstanding about islam. basaha lagi ang quran before ka mo judge. ..... mao ra .. bow hahaha
    biliba nako nimo boss. kugihan gyud au ka sa pag explain ni TS regarding anang iyang mga beliefs. lols. pero if na notice nimo boss sa imong gipanulti wala gyud nidulot niya bisan gamay. lisud gyud pasabton ang tao sa usa ka butang nga dili abli ang utok para makat-on boss. para nako, siguro mas maayo pasagdan nalang ni siya sa iyang beliefs, if para niya nag contribute siya aw pasagdaghan nalang iyaha pud na. if dili siya nahan mupalit ug halal nga mga pagkaon, aw respetohon nalang. lisud man pud kaayo if ato iduot atong knowledge sa usa ka tawo nga dili gusto maminaw.

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    Mao nay giingon, those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still. Sige ra mog lalis dire, hehehe, for what?

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    @marius -- lab u fafi! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    Mao nay giingon, those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still. Sige ra mog lalis dire, hehehe, for what?
    padaghan sa post dors..hehehe

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    luoya nimo bai oi ..... naa ka diha sa cebu pero grabi imong misunderstanding about islam. basaha lagi ang quran before ka mo judge.



    well, ako lang share akong opinion gamay or personal experience .... as most of the people here knows naa ko diri kanding-land, atheist ko pero converted sa islam by-necessity... at first gyud, grabi akong kasuko aning mga muslim diri sa saudi kay daghan kau mga bugo ..... i still remember my post before that i said, if i have a time machine i would go back and kill muhammad ....... ing-ana ka grabi akong kasuko sa una .... but then, i sat down and i think deep and read more about islam and history sa arab countires and observed deeper sa mga people diri.......

    then akong na realize na sa time ni muhammad, pareho ming duha, by necessity ra gihapon ang islam, coz before, grabi ka bungkag ang mga TRIBES diri sa kanding-land .. and with his religion iyang na unite ang mga tribes .... and fast forward to today .... if you look at the middle-east, saudi, the UAE, Jordan and the rest of the PEACEFUL countries, they have harbored or ALLOWED and WELCOMED people or should i say CHRISTIANS from the philippines and from different countries all over the world .... so without islam, gubot pa gihapon ning Saudi ... at least, pasalamat ta gamay ni muhammad coz iyang na unite tanan thru religion ...

    and as for my stand sa mga muslims diri ..... i came to a conclusion that it isn't about being a muslim that makes a man dumb, but it's ignorance .... daghan kau mga CHRISTIANS na mga pinoy diri na bugo pa sa ilaga. ug daghan sad mga muslim diri especially taga jeddah that are very educated and grabi mo respetar sa imoha ...

    bottom line - i'm done with generalization, karon, akong tan-awn ang individual, not the group ....


    coz sa akong pang example ni nefarian ..... na it's unfair to say that a whole family is stupid just becoz one member is stupid ...

    mao na alramzz .............. stop watching youtube videos or any websites ....... if you want to know about islam ... naa ang quran ... basaha ug tarong ... i'm not trying to convince you to respect muslims, but all i'm saying is ... just read the quran and judge for own....

    mao ra .. bow hahaha

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    naka basa ka og quran cover to cover diay brod?,. how come og ma pin down nmo ila argument mo resource dayon na quran is better on its arabic form,. yes i quote that before with some muslim friend,.

    can you explain why you convert out of necessity?, ngano diay og pdayon kang pag ka atheist, very welcoming country man kaha,. justing reading you between the lines brod,. well you find peace in islam GOOD for you,. I refer you all readers on some youtube clips, because if i Give you books and heavy documents naa ba kaha mo time to read? search those people im referring at if their deceitful person more cloudier than those imams who said peace peace while butchering my non muslims without condemning it.. open man kaha inyo hunahuna why dont you see the facts or disprove it if its not,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    hehe. wala man nako g-duot akong knowledge boss sa TS. mura ra gud na ako lang pagawas akong opinion ani and at least makita sad nila ang views sa other side of the fence but in the end sila raman gihapon magbuot kung unsa ilang decision

    ruth, wala mi naglalis coz if mo ingon ka na FOR WHAT. maypa close na lang ang istorya.net kay FOR WHAT raman kaha ning mga storya diri
    Wala sad ko nag duut sa akong ge barogan brod,. my point is open to be criticize,. "AM I CONTRIBUTING OR WHAT?" you( truth seeker answer it your self)

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