Are you supporting federalism, what can you say about BBL?

[20Phoenix15]

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mao ni sakto tubag.. maayo ang federalism pero not govern by Islamic state

sa context sa BBL the MILF is the prime and only revolutionary group who wields real power within the Bangsamoro Region.

A deal that involves politics ang imo e negotiate jud is the group/family/organization that holds political power. dili puede katong mga walay gahum kay dila man sila maka implementar sa balaod. ug di sila katohoan sa mga tao.

[crossramz]

If the national gov't want to try federalism then it should be started here in Cebu or Whole Visayas since we are more stable among regions outside manila.

[20Phoenix15]

If the national gov't want to try federalism then it should be started here in Cebu or Whole Visayas since we are more stable among regions outside manila.

nindot pod na nga idea bai mura gamay ra ang magasto sa National Govt ana.

naa naman gud ni ang BBL nya osa pa Revolutionary Group ni sila, kabalo na ta kung unsay mga kalihokan aning mga ingon ani nga klase nga mga tao.

[crossramz]

nindot pod na nga idea bai mura gamay ra ang magasto sa National Govt ana.

naa naman gud ni ang BBL nya osa pa Revolutionary Group ni sila, kabalo na ta kung unsay mga kalihokan aning mga ingon ani nga klase nga mga tao.

kana man gong gibuhat sa BBL kay murag force anti bully strat sa current admin. Just to end the revolution ilawog almost tanan NRA sa ilaha. Bisag mo ingon pata naay dakong returns makuha we can't be sure kay under the BBL mas dako sila ug kupot sa maguindanao.. They even have their own audit and military force.

[20Phoenix15]

kana man gong gibuhat sa BBL kay murag force anti bully strat sa current admin. Just to end the revolution ilawog almost tanan NRA sa ilaha. Bisag mo ingon pata naay dakong returns makuha we can't be sure kay under the BBL mas dako sila ug kupot sa maguindanao.. They even have their own audit and military force.

if natural resources ang imo pasabot bai, ako im in favor nga kung unsay resources sa osa ka Region kinahanglan mas dako ilang bahin kaysa sa gobyerno o National.

then about anang Armed Forces , mas maayo hinoon bai kay ang MILF. members sa MNLF og ubang FFF hehe ma integrate na sa AFP og PNP. Under man gihapon ni sila sa Gobyerno sa Pilipinas.

[Romeojin]

if natural resources ang imo pasabot bai, ako im in favor nga kung unsay resources sa osa ka Region kinahanglan mas dako ilang bahin kaysa sa gobyerno o National.

kung 100% govt owned ang companies extracting natural resources, ok pa tana dako ang income.

but fact is 5% lang makuha na govt if privately owned ang mining companies. Its not enough to cover the cost of environmental damages.

then about anang Armed Forces , mas maayo hinoon bai kay ang MILF. members sa MNLF og ubang FFF hehe ma integrate na sa AFP og PNP. Under man gihapon ni sila sa Gobyerno sa Pilipinas.

Its ok in a way that the MILF will be the State Troopers but problem is naay part sa BBL na that AFP and PNP wont have jurisdiction didto

BTW im against federalization/autonomy

[crossramz]

kung 100% govt owned ang companies extracting natural resources, ok pa tana dako ang income.

but fact is 5% lang makuha na govt if privately owned ang mining companies. Its not enough to cover the cost of environmental damages.

expected malaysian companies ang mag-una2x ana ug tukod.

Its ok in a way that the MILF will be the State Troopers but problem is naay part sa BBL na that AFP and PNP wont have jurisdiction didto

BTW im against federalization/autonomy

this one of the biggest concern.. Creating the largest private army..

[20Phoenix15]

kung 100% govt owned ang companies extracting natural resources, ok pa tana dako ang income.

but fact is 5% lang makuha na govt if privately owned ang mining companies. Its not enough to cover the cost of environmental damages.



Its ok in a way that the MILF will be the State Troopers but problem is naay part sa BBL na that AFP and PNP wont have jurisdiction didto

BTW im against federalization/autonomy

no problem if own by the govt or dli basta at least dako ilang gahum when it comes to pilay ipatung sa tax, sharing etc and etc. nya ang bureaucracy limited na kaayo.

if ma integrate na sila sa PNP bai therefore dunay jurisdiction ang PNP di ba?

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expected malaysian companies ang mag-una2x ana ug tukod.



this one of the biggest concern.. Creating the largest private army..

ang mga countries sa OIC mag expect pod ta nga mo invest didto.

if you mean ang MILF, then the answer is...e integrate sila sa PNP. Then naa pod sa agreement nga ang Central Govt. puede maka buhat og Bangsamoro Command from the AFP.

[Romeojin]

no problem if own by the govt or dli basta at least dako ilang gahum when it comes to pilay ipatung sa tax, sharing etc and etc. nya ang bureaucracy limited na kaayo.

lisod na siguro pasakahon pa ang tax/collection considering dili man mo.capital ang govt. standard na pud ang 5% or less in many businesses. profit bya gihuna sa mga companies lisod na kung taas2x ang singil sa govt, wa na mo.invest.
In a way bureaucracy is important esp sa mining, kay kung lower officials mo decide.. dali lang sila ma bribe at the expense of our environment. daghan pud bya contra anang mining.

ni voice out lang ako kay naa moingon "resources sa mindanao para sa mindanao" but in truth tua diay padung Malaysia,China, oligarch gikan Manila.. etc. kung di gyud State own ang companies gamay lang gyud madawat ng taga Mindanao.

if ma integrate na sila sa PNP bai therefore dunay jurisdiction ang PNP di ba?

i think kung mag.federalism since decentralized naman wala na ang PNP, every state maintain their own police force. ang cross state cases will be handle by NBI same as FBI sa US and no national police organization.

[crossramz]

ang BansangMoro ang biggest evidence that the current admin is run by a gaylord. awa ra gud, maka approve cya ug autonomy didto sa muklo area, pero complete federalism kay dili gyud cya

post lang ni nko ako post sa other thread kay wala man ni tubay ang tagapagligtas ni noy2x didto gud and it somewhat relates on this thread.

source:Recto: Senate to defuse policy landmines in BBL

“The BBL is basically an appropriations bill. It creates financial obligations in the tens of billions of pesos. It binds the national government, and ultimately taxpayers, to allocate large sums of money every year,” said the senator.

“On the first year alone of the Bangsamoro establishment, the projected minimum cost is P75 billion,” he said, citing official estimates on the fiscal impact of the creation of the Moro sub-state in Mindanao.

A big chunk of this is in the form of a “block grant,” which in 2016, according to testimonies of government officials, will be around P27 billion, Recto explained.

“In the draft BBL, the block grant is automatically appropriated, meaning Congress is obliged to approve it. It may be open to congressional scrutiny, but not to congressional deletion or even reduction,” he said. “Ang sabi ng marami, parang sovereign debt na natin ito. Kasi nga sa budget natin, ang pambansang utang ay automatically appropriated.”

The BBL, he said, also provides for a “Special Development Fund” which will be remitted by Manila to the Bangsamoro government.

“This is P10 billion, an amount that is bigger than the combined budget of the Tourism (DOT) and Trade and Industry (DTI) departments, or the Technical Education and Skills Development Authority (TESDA),” said the senator.

On top of these entitlements, Recto explained that villages, cities, towns and provinces constituting the Bangsamoro region will continue receiving their Internal Revenue Allotments (IRA), which is the share of local governments from taxes collected by the national government.

your thoughts on this? haha.. if ever kini ang ihatag sa atoa pagka bulahan sa cebu ug sa tibouk visayas, Wapa pay labad sa ulo because we already did welcome all investors and filipino workers across the nation.