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  1. #61

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    @bleedingboi .. bro ang pag orchestrate nila sa mamasapano operation is more than their troops joining the battle ... but anyway eye witness say American Soldiers is in the command center sa Sharif Aquak .. nag monitor sa operation ...

    Since Article 18/ section 25 did not clearly depicted the words combat or non-Combat. The Americans have the right to fire at the MILF if their lives are in danger. The 2002 treaty with Arroyo also allowed this. So bisan unsaon pana ligid2x sa mnga leftist sa dalan, or

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by chinitz22 View Post
    Ang ang ga halhal man lang na permi,,ga pa staring man gud ug ratatat,,, bawal lagi daw mga kano tiras kano blame did2 blame diin na asa,,kay suheto lagi sa balaud na karon gi correct nga naay treaty,,nawa karon na uros uros nag ug pa pulbos sa MI and BIFF. Ang maayo ana niya no iya na gamiton iya avatar iya paakon ang mga MI and BIFF isog man kaayo na siya sa iya mga post. Ug di niya ma buhat nya pay pa iyang etog iya epa papak ana.
    LOL! .. counter lang sa iyang comment miss, yaw lang atake sa person directly. Iya man sad na.. no one is perfect even sources are not perfect. discuss lang taman sa makaya.. hehehe

    anyway, if anyone thinks waly sayup ang US sa pag apil2x sa mamasapano operation... then why deny their involvement? I'm not saying dli maau ang pag counter sa mga rebelde pero nganu ila man gi deny despite sa mga "rumor" and the smoke screen na ni gawas karon to cover them up? To what extent ang ilang involvement? Does it contradict any of our constitution? Mao man ni ang implication if ever involve gani sila.

    pero if na involve man gani sila nganu limited raman ang ground units and why walay full support nahatag? awkward ang offensive sa operation db...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    Since Article 18/ section 25 did not clearly depicted the words combat or non-Combat. The Americans have the right to fire at the MILF if their lives are in danger. The 2002 treaty with Arroyo also allowed this. So bisan unsaon pana ligid2x sa mnga leftist sa dalan, or
    na putol brad, palihug ko ug padayun hehehe

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    @bleedingboi .. bro ang pag orchestrate nila sa mamasapano operation is more than their troops joining the battle ... but anyway eye witness say American Soldiers is in the command center sa Sharif Aquak .. nag monitor sa operation ...

    Since Article 18/ section 25 did not clearly depicted the words combat or non-Combat. The Americans have the right to fire at the MILF if their lives are in danger. The 2002 MALSA treaty with Arroyo also allowed this.

    So if tinuod nakauban ang mga kano didto sa Mamasapano, and were pummeled with bullets, the Americans have the right to exchange fire. Bisan unsaon pana ug ligid2x sa mga leftist sa dalan sa pagprotesta, or unsa pa kakusog ang mga senador mu-protesta ani, wa silay mahimo.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    Since Article 18/ section 25 did not clearly depicted the words combat or non-Combat. The Americans have the right to fire at the MILF if their lives are in danger. The 2002 MALSA treaty with Arroyo also allowed this.

    So if tinuod nakauban ang mga kano didto sa Mamasapano, and were pummeled with bullets, the Americans have the right to exchange fire. Bisan unsaon pana ug ligid2x sa mga leftist sa dalan sa pagprotesta, or unsa pa kakusog ang mga senador mu-protesta ani, wa silay mahimo.
    not just American bai...when it comes to terrorist tanang nasud ana nag kahiusa...just like kanang gibuhat nila sa ISIS/L krn grabe kaaung bombing sa Iraq...pero nagpakahilum ra Government sa Iraq ug Syria bisan grabe na kaau ang damage sa ilang nasud damay pang civilian.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    https://ph.news.yahoo.com/us-militar...160000090.html




    The United States’ involvement in Operation Exodus was described in detail by sacked Special Action Force (SAF) commander Director Getulio Napeñas during an executive session at the Senate yesterday.
    Napeñas reportedly told the senators that a US surveillance plane tracked Malaysian bomb expert Zulkifli bin Hir to his hideout in Mamasapano, Maguindanao. The terrorist was killed in a raid by SAF commandos last Jan. 25.
    On their way out of the village after killing Marwan, the commandos encountered guerrillas belonging to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF). The clash left dozens dead, including 44 SAF men.
    Senators grilled Napeñas in an executive session for about four hours. Resigned Philippine National Police chief Alan Purisima and current Intelligence Group director Chief Superintendent Fernando Mendez were not able to speak due to lack of time and were asked to return today for another executive session.
    Sen. Grace Poe assured the public that the Senate would be transparent on issues which may be shared with the public.
    “I think it was very productive. We were able to learn a lot of things, and we confirmed the things we already knew,” Poe said after the executive session at the senators’ lounge. At least 12 senators were in the session.
    Poe said many areas of concern were discussed and clarified by Napeñas, who has owned up to accountability over the Mamasapano incident.
    It was the 84th Seaborne Company led by Supt. Raymond Train who led the assault on the hut of Marwan, while the 36-member 55th Special Action Company was supposedly the blocking force.
    Asked for confirmation on the US role in the operations, Poe maintained she cannot spell out the details until “we have come up with a consensus on which topics can be made available.”
    “It was free and honest. I felt our resource person was much more comfortable,” said Poe, who also did not say whether Napeñas had spilled the beans on other officials.
    In a Senate inquiry last week, Napeñas admitted seeking the help of American forces – but supposedly only for the recovery of injured SAF operatives.
    After the incident, US soldiers participating in joint exercises in Mindanao were seen on television assisting local police and the military in retrieving corpses.
    Sources from the intelligence community told The STAR that the US participation could be limited to intelligence buildup. “Most probably technical intelligence,” the source said, refusing to reveal more due to the sensitivity of the matter.
    During public hearings last week, Napeñas also said he was ready to divulge information during executive session on the severed index finger of Marwan, which had been turned over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for DNA testing.
    Poe said she believed Napeñas was able to freely reveal details of the operation because of the senators’ commitment to treat the information he would share with extreme care.
    “For one, we didn’t actually time, more than five minutes were given to answer the questions. It was more informal, the exchanges were more random. We went into many details because we only had one resource person. We told him to narrate many different things,” she said.
    Poe added that the important details mentioned about the operations would be made available as soon as possible.
    Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano was also mum on Napeñas’ revelations but cited court records revealing an exchange between Marwan and his brother who is detained in California.
    Marwan had kept Rahmat Andhir informed of the situation in the Philippines, even providing reports of clashes between government forces and groups supposedly protecting him, including the MILF.
    Citing records from the US district court of Northern California, Cayetano stressed that Marwan had told his brother about the involvement of the US in these conflicts through the use of Orion spy planes and Predator drones.
    Cayetano presented to the media the court records on the charges filed against Marwan’s brother for two counts of conspiracy to provide/providing material support to terrorists; contributing goods and services to a specially designated global terrorist and material false statements.
    Earlier yesterday, Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV said he sees nothing wrong with intelligence information sharing between the Philippines and the US.
    “We welcome intelligence sharing, because we alone are not capable of having such information,” Trillanes said.


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    Katong mga leftist dha, this is your chance to speak out and rant.
    rant? nga tua man sila kapusta ni Aquino karon... daghan baya leftist sa iyang cabinet karon.

  6. #66
    OT: Malagmit may kagahapon ni si amingb ug chintzz hahaha adto mos lovers tread beh kay naay yes or no didto mentras wla pa ma close to.

  7. #67
    Excuse me ... wako nang hilabot .... basin Moklo na si chintzz ....

  8. #68
    “I prefer a government run like hell by Filipinos to a government run like heaven by Americans.” - Kinsay uyon ani?

    Ug pwede mabalik ang panahon kalaming labayon ug saging ning tawhana.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by unswa View Post
    “I prefer a government run like hell by Filipinos to a government run like heaven by Americans.” - Kinsay uyon ani?

    Ug pwede mabalik ang panahon kalaming labayon ug saging ning tawhana.
    hahaha!

    i agree, lami jd labayon. But if some "patriotic" guys imong pagnutan-on, supakon ka ani nila. Honestly, during those time kay immature pa ang Philippines in terms sa politics then there came ani nga mga idea like to be independent. There's nothing wrong with that as long as we are really capable na (wise na mang corrupt, dli akoon tanan bah). Pero fast forward, see how the beloved Philippines is doing.. corrupt here there and everywhere...

    If remain pa ta under sa US, basin usa na ta ka states nila.. no need for Visa mo adto sa mainland or maski mostly sa other countries while maintaining our identity as Filipinos. pwede ba ni?

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    hahaha!

    i agree, lami jd labayon. But if some "patriotic" guys imong pagnutan-on, supakon ka ani nila. Honestly, during those time kay immature pa ang Philippines in terms sa politics then there came ani nga mga idea like to be independent. There's nothing wrong with that as long as we are really capable na (wise na mang corrupt, dli akoon tanan bah). Pero fast forward, see how the beloved Philippines is doing.. corrupt here there and everywhere...

    If remain pa ta under sa US, basin usa na ta ka states nila.. no need for Visa mo adto sa mainland or maski mostly sa other countries while maintaining our identity as Filipinos. pwede ba ni?
    Hawaii and Alaska was the latest states admitted to the Union. You can't take away your blood identity so maski pag American citizen ka pero imong origin dili jud na mawala.

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