Our new fallen heroes!!!!!!

[xandro]

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@anaksatawo -- the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki won the war for the Allies, right? Useless man nag peace talks because we are not dealing with honorable men here. Lahi ilang morals, lahi ilang values. You make a deal with the devil, you get $crewed. each and every single time.

mao jud mam sa USA pa we dont deal with terrorist!!!!! tsk

[brownie]

heroes? how about those 900 pinoy soliders sent to korea during quirino's time, were they not heroes too? wala lage man gani na recognize man lang.

easy for some to say 'we can drop them bombs and end it'. here's my take, when we evacuate civilians, insurgents would then follow them too [im sure of this]. they are witty as our intels and may perhaps perform mass murder in areas covered with refugees. if memory serves me right, they are indirectly connected to the IS and if we think deeply into it, the more dangerous it becomes when the REAL terrorists uses its trump card.

as for me, all out war would be the only solution BUT when war breaks out, economy goes down. it's just that those living in abroad will not be affected. the phil govt must be ready for this, it may not happen tomorrow or the next day but someday it will. unya lahi ra ba ni atong gobyerno kay unya na molihok kung ma alanganin na.

[æRLO]

@anaksatawo -- the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki won the war for the Allies, right? Useless man nag peace talks because we are not dealing with honorable men here. Lahi ilang morals, lahi ilang values. You make a deal with the devil, you get $crewed. each and every single time.

That's after Japan had exhausted their capabilities to launch any meaningful offensive, and those bombs were so massive and unheard of at the time so it was severely effective. We'd have to be going full saturation bombing--heavy aerial bombing to make these guys surrender without sending grunts in. And were talking in a MASSIVE scale. I think the Philippines has very limited PGMs/JDAMs in their arsenal, so we resort to using dumb bombs. And with the very-limited techs the Philippines has for CID, di ko kasalig. Daghan kaayog collateral damage ang resulta ana, even if this is not an urbanized environment were talking about. Honestly, I don't think the aerial shock-and-awe approach will break these guys (if you consider our known assets and conventions).

[diablo85]

rest in peace....

[CAPTAIN NAUTILUS]

Kung mag all-out-war , it will only be in that lawless areas like Maguindanao, Basilan etc...or wherever the strongholds for these MILF,MNLF,BIFF is located. The problem with these factions is that they have never recognize the government. They want the territory for their own interests. The issue here is TERRITORIAL. In war there are rules. The army can just make a public announcement at least one week before engaging the enemy to let the civilians go for evacuation. Evacuation centers and hospital will be set up at nearby towns.
There is no argument to war coming to Cebu or any other places in Ph. It is time to let justice for all men,women wether in the military,police and civilian population prevail. The government has done enough talk.

Ever heard of bombings in unexpected places bro? I bet nakabati naka ana. Some bombings are direct results of retaliation by these rebel forces.

Yes, there are rules in war. In the case of this topic at hand. Surely the rules of war was violated. Murag namention man nga naka ceasefire sila. But nahitabo man gihapon ang pinusilay. Surely naa rules of war. Pero wala ma follow ani nga case.
How many more rules pa kaha ang maviolate if ma prolong pa ni nga gubat?

Granting the issue was territorial, then it is another topic worthy of discussion. Let me indulge nalang by going a little off-topic.
If you read the Bangsamoro basic law here:

http://www.opapp.gov.ph/sites/defaul...asic%20Law.pdf

Try to read the Purpose and the Preamble. Surely dili na mao ang purpose sa law nga ihatag ang territory didto nila.

[xandro]

heroes? how about those 900 pinoy soliders sent to korea during quirino's time, were they not heroes too? wala lage man gani na recognize man lang.

easy for some to say 'we can drop them bombs and end it'. here's my take, when we evacuate civilians, insurgents would then follow them too [im sure of this]. they are witty as our intels and may perhaps perform mass murder in areas covered with refugees. if memory serves me right, they are indirectly connected to the IS and if we think deeply into it, the more dangerous it becomes when the REAL terrorists uses its trump card.

as for me, all out war would be the only solution BUT when war breaks out, economy goes down. it's just that those living in abroad will not be affected. the phil govt must be ready for this, it may not happen tomorrow or the next day but someday it will. unya lahi ra ba ni atong gobyerno kay unya na molihok kung ma alanganin na.

sorry miss @brownie but they are heroes too, but i think wala ko nkablo anang balita..for me a soldier or anyone who die to protect some1 or protecting the nation or die coz of the service they are heroes too.

like kato maguindanao nga gpang massacre brutal sad to, ang mga media ug katong uban. katong mga marines nga gpamutlan ug ulo. sad to say labot ang milf ani nga mga pang hitabo..

[CAPTAIN NAUTILUS]

For the first one. You have a point but wouldnt matter, if war will happen, itll happen in the rebel territory and grounds, which is somewhere in Mindanao... in a mountanous and very rural area in Mindanao. Ang katong nahitabo sa Zambo, dili to tungod kay naay nagsinulungay daun ga declare og all out war, tungod to kay gi hostage sa mge terrorist ang isa ka populated nga lugar. Ang kanang mga kampo sa rebelde kay naa na sa bukid, dili sa lugar nga daghan tawo and daghan makakita nila, which is very stupid. I would know, I grew up in Mindanao. Sa second quote, you watch a lot of movies bai. Cebus geographical structure and location, an island, a small island with only a few mountains, mostly flat, and very open. There are no agricultural fields, no forests. Engaging in guerrilla warfare here for the rebels would be like painting a bullseye in their a*s. Unless they take the city hostage like they did in Zambo, which is stupid since they will surely die still.

Murag naa man to head sa rebelde nadakpan diha sa may San Fernando bai. Unya murag naa pud toy bombing sa Davao pag ka 2013 by the rebel group. Murag dili tingale malimit lang ang gubat didto sa kabukiran ra, or in Mindanao for that matter.

[yhokz101]

mao jud mam sa USA pa we dont deal with terrorist!!!!! tsk

cause we are the terrorist! hahaha (we finance them)

yaw sad nang bomba nga nuclear tawn.. hehehehe

[CAPTAIN NAUTILUS]

@anaksatawo -- the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki won the war for the Allies, right? Useless man nag peace talks because we are not dealing with honorable men here. Lahi ilang morals, lahi ilang values. You make a deal with the devil, you get $crewed. each and every single time.

Then we should start Atomic Bombing Mindanao sis. . we see them as the devil screwing us. While they see us as the infidels corrupting and taking over the whole world.

Ang pangutana ani karon, kinsa man ang sakto?

Hence, can we talk about it in peace?

[yhokz101]

http://www.opapp.gov.ph/sites/defaul...asic%20Law.pdf

Try to read the Purpose and the Preamble. Surely dili na mao ang purpose sa law nga ihatag ang territory didto nila.

Im sure the intent and purpose of the BBL in that is somehow descent and peaceful. But I can assure you, they (rebels) will bend and change the exact meaning of that law to their own personal agenda and wants. In short, I just can't trust them handing over a "territorial piece of the Philippines".

Just No to BBL if these kind of people still exist in Mindanao.