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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    Dili homo sapien ang gina exhibit sa zoo, murag ikaw dapat ang ibutang sa zoo kay liwat mog utok sa homo erectus.

    Murag mas bright pa gani nimo ang homo erectus kay dili mu tuox2 ug mga magicx2 ug imaginary skyfairy fairytale imaginary friend hahahaha
    ang usa ka bright ay sige nalang ug lihay2x wala paka nauwaw diha?

  2. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    - God is always with us. Because He is an infinite Spirit, He is not restricted to being in one location at a time. He fills every inch of space throughout the universe with all His wonderful personal attributes.
    How come your God is always hiding migo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    How come your God is always hiding migo?
    That is your opinion migo.. I don't suppose I can say to you to believe me or follow what we believe in. If you are looking for a solid evidence like what you can see with your own eyes and touch with your hands then I am sorry but that is what faith is all about. I am not talking about magic2x and fairy tales and the sort like AntiBugo always refers to.

    You are saying that if we can't see something, we simply rejects or don't believe it exists? We believe in many things that we can't see. Have you ever seen the wind? Have you seen history? We see the effects of the wind, but the wind is invisible. We have records of history, but it is by 'faith' we believe that certain historical events happened. Television waves are invisible, but an antenna and a receiver can detect their presence.

    Are we looking in the right places? The “signs” of God’s presence in the world may look differently than we expect. It could be a simple joy from a child, a beautiful flower, the goodness to each person, the kindness from a stranger you randomly receive, the love we feel from our parents and the love we give to those we care. I don't assume you agree with me on this level but tend and try to see things differently for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    How come your God is always hiding migo?
    its because some people don't want to see him (lack of faith)

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    That is your opinion migo.. I don't suppose I can say to you to believe me or follow what we believe in. If you are looking for a solid evidence like what you can see with your own eyes and touch with your hands then I am sorry but that is what faith is all about. I am not talking about magic2x and fairy tales and the sort like AntiBugo always refers to.

    You are saying that if we can't see something, we simply rejects or don't believe it exists? We believe in many things that we can't see. Have you ever seen the wind? Have you seen history? We see the effects of the wind, but the wind is invisible. We have records of history, but it is by 'faith' we believe that certain historical events happened. Television waves are invisible, but an antenna and a receiver can detect their presence.

    Are we looking in the right places? The “signs” of God’s presence in the world may look differently than we expect. It could be a simple joy from a child, a beautiful flower, the goodness to each person, the kindness from a stranger you randomly receive, the love we feel from our parents and the love we give to those we care. I don't assume you agree with me on this level but tend and try to see things differently for once.
    Well i was wondering why he remain invisible when in the old testament, he met and talk to Moses and Jacob. I supposed he can appear to anyone at ease migo.
    Although I can't fully understand these "signs" as "proof" of God's existence, I do appreciate and thanked at these experiences, and marvel at nature's beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    its because some people don't want to see him (lack of faith)
    Some people just want to make use of their senses for solid proof migo

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    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Well i was wondering why he remain invisible when in the old testament, he met and talk to Moses and Jacob. I supposed he can appear to anyone at ease migo.
    This is true, GOD is different from Old testament from the New testament. In the Old testament he is seem radical in many ways. Appearing to be powerful, holy, punishing, angry, and jealous. While in the new testament, in the form of Jesus Christ, He appears kind, loving, meek, and forgiving, But nonetheless he remains the same..and in that context yes He can appear to anyone at ease Migo.


    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Although I can't fully understand these "signs" as "proof" of God's existence, I do appreciate and thanked at these experiences, and marvel at nature's beauty.

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    Some people just want to make use of their senses for solid proof migo
    Proof and Sign are two very different things. We will see proof as an evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement. While Sign is rather an object, quality, or event whose presence or occurrence indicates the probable presence or occurrence of something else. You see some people tend to use senses are their solid proof, they rely on it therefore make it their basis of proof but sometimes our senses will deceive us, it fails us in many ways. Having a solid proof (where you can see/touch) when we are talking about the God makes no sense, we can only take it by belief and faith. Senses I say it again cannot be made equal as a logical proof.

    Having proof of Gods existence, you see God wants a relationship built on trust, not proof. Though God hasn't given us proof, he has placed enough evidence in the world for people to believe in him. People throughout history have seen both the power and beauty of nature.

    “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    "have you ever seen the wind?"

    LOL Typical mor0nic idiot christian argument, daghan ug ebidensiya sa wind, daghan ug ebidensiya sa mga panghitabu sa history. Dili na faith nang mga ebidensiya sa history. BUGO.
    - Well have you ever seen a wind? Please answer me.. remember my question, Seen.

    wa jd ka naka sabot, when we talked about history there are books, accounts from events recorded for us to be reminded but are we there para naka witness adto? wala diba? We take it on faith that it happened.. same goes sa Bible. All you need is a leap of faith para maka sabot ka... close minded man gd ka dli ka katigo mo tan-aw sa other side sa argument mao dli ka maka connect.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    Inyuhang imaginary friend,hell,heaven,magicx2,hokus pokus wa juy ebidensiya, buot buot ka ha...hahahaha

    Gihimo pa nimong "sign of presence" sa imuhang imaginary fictional friend ang "joy from a child" "beautiful flower" "goodness" og "kindness" LOL buot buot jud ning mga oplok na delusional na mga ignoranteng uto-utong kristianong tanga! hahahaha!
    Dili ko maka basol nimo, cguro puro nalang hate ang naa nmo.. imo sad na, entitled pod ka ana. If we mention about ignorance basin maigo ka ana pero dli nalang tka tubayan kay obviously there's only one kind of person ang matawag nmo, a very arrogant-self righteous person who has a delusion that he has all the knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    Pagka bugo jud nimo, Daghan ug ebidensiya sa wind, ang imaginary fairytale fictional friend nimo wala juy ebidensiya so ayaw ikumpara ang wind sa imuhang imaginary fairytale fictional friend. kasabot na ka? perte jud ka bugo.
    - wala man ka ni tubag sa akong pangutana, sipyat na pd ka. pastilan daghan rba jd nimong mga yawyaw...

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    kanang history dili ra na sa libro ginabasehan, gina-pangitaan sad na ug ebidensiya perte jud nimo ka bugo, for example kadtong pag patay ni lapux2 kay magellan, naay mga historians on both sides na nagka-tugma ang mga gipang-ingon mao katuohan jud ang istorya, kanang mga character anang fairytale bible ninyo wa juy ebidensiya, abraham, noah, moses etc. puros fictional mao kailangan jud na ug faith a.k.a delusion para tuohan sa mga utox2 sama nimo hahaha
    - toinks ang mga historians imo pasabot kadtong naka witness sa away nila lapu2x ug magellan mao ba? Hoi paltik, kanang mga historians mainly naka base na sila mostly sa mga historical facts a.k.a sa libro na gipang suwat sa unang mga tao, artifacts ug uban pa. Ayaw ko ingna mga tsismis2x ra na or words by mouth .. basin imo tuo ang mga historians immortal? bahak na ni karon.. tarunga daw imong tubag. Same goes sa Bible for the sake lang sa mga gipag basehan which is ang document - Libro/manusripts/scrolls/etc. How can you say or disprove na dli tinuod ang naa sa bibliya? Sa mga events na mga nahitabo? imo nang ma disprove? tubag dayun.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    Dili ko closed minded, wala lang koy delusion sa mga butang na mga magicx2 fictional fairytale na gihimo para tuohan sa mga bugong uto-utong ignorante sama nimo. LOL
    Sa kani pa lang na statement, arang ka close minded naka kau.. waka kasabot sa imong statement? Ok humor me, for the sake sa imong prinsipyo.. what do you think we gain from believing that there is God? And what will you gain for not believing like sa imo na side? tubag.

  9. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    Mu sukol jud maski malix2 na LOL

    Kanang Magellan ug Lapux2 naay physical evidence na nag exist na sila like sa mga records didto sa portugal, tua ang mga records ni magellan didto na nangayo siyag supporta sa king sa spain na maka travel, tua sad ang balay ug ang pamilya ni magellan didtoa, iyahang mga persona na mga gamit, ang kay lapux2 sad daghan ug mga physical evidence sa cebu sa iyahang existence sa una, mga writings before ni abot si magellan sa cebu, daghan na silag ebidensiya, example pa lang na sa history na imuhang gina yawt diha OPLOK ka, kanang mga fictional character sa inyuhang bibliya botbot wala juy ebidensiya except sa mga fictional ra pud na mga ancient texts LOL wa juy physical evidence na mu tudlo na tinuod jud nang mga moses, abraham ninyo hahahaa KASABOT KA? basahag usab kay murag dugay kaayo ka kasabot LOL
    - So you mean not only physical evidence but ang Genealogical proof? for the record naa ni document para ma trace back nmo kung existing ba ni silang mga tawhan, pardon me pero sa kadugay na ani nilang moses/abrahan/noah kay karaan na kau na sila.. fr all we know pila ra ka tao willing mo document adto unlike sa panahon sa imong tiyo magellan na naa nay mga tao na nag record/nag suwat for the purpose of documenting. Pero tan-awa lang dri sa link kung gusto kag proof para ma trace nmo ang genealogy nila Noah to Abraham to Moses: Reasons To Believe : From Noah to Abraham to Moses: Evidence of Genealogical Gaps in Genesis, Part 2
    Imong cge yawit fictional2x, pero mo reflect pod na sa imong username sa cge ug ka banned basin gani fictional raka na tao.. LOL

    oist! saman nakita na nmo ang wind? klaro na sa imong mata? evidence2x ka dha wala man ka ni tubag sakto sa ako pangutana.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    Naa napud ning cliched question sa mga ugok na kristiyano.

    Unsay ma gain ninyo? Mahimo mong closed minded, uto-uto ug ignorante sa realidad, LOL mu tuo mog butang na hinimo sa mga karaang taong uto-uto, 21st century naman unta nagpa bilin ra gihapon mong mga bugong uto-uto LOL

    Unsay ma gain namo? Ma open akong mind sa realidad, I love knowledge, science and the truth, ug dili ko mahimong uto-uto sa isa ka butang na hinimo ra pud sa mga karaang taong ignoranteng tanga. LOL
    - Ka hambog baya.. i wonder lang unsay na abot nmo noh. Para nko "KNOWLEDGE WITHOUT GOD IS VANITY"! Even Einstein believe in GOD or a Supreme Being and to think asa ra kaha ka ka level niya, without humilty of oneself wa kay padulngan ana. seeker of truth but you are close minded of things na dli nmo masabtan kay imo na dayun e reject. E open imong mind sa realidad, pls open sa imong kaugalingon na daghan kang utrohon sa imong approach sa kalibutan. The way ka mo sulti, the way ka mo tubag ug the way ka mo handle ug arguement.. to say the least is not "scientific" at all, what a shame and disgrace and a big slap in your face.
    Last edited by yhokz101; 12-03-2014 at 03:18 PM.

  10. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by AntiBugo View Post
    And Dili makit-an ang hangin...SO...Tapos...UNYA? LOL
    - Lisoda sa pag angkon noh? ganiha ra unta na human kung ni tubag palang ka ani.. from that palang stubborn ug hard headed ka na pagka tao. I will leave you at peace, you believe in nothing but pursuits knowledge and perhaps negliecting wisdom. You live with a simple truth, that is to live whatever suits you. You don't believe in God so therefore you don't believe in heaven or hell as for that matter. You just simple live and die, and after you die no one will probably remember you. Here goes this guy name (whatever your name is), from sperm to dust nothing more. What a sad thing to think.. but I hope you will gain more knowledge in this world and a bit of proper manner wouldn't hurt.

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