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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Mama View Post
    thnx for admitting that you have no evidence...you only got faith which is an excuse for people who can't provide evidence..

    faith was never use to solve problems or answer questions in the history of mankind... your faith or wishful thinking is not a proof of your god's existence.

    as always, atheists win
    You ALSO have FAITH... the sad thing is You did Not Know about it...

    Believing on the RESULT formulated by Scientist without any SELF verification has MORE Faith than THEIST

    and the Biggest IRONY about it is you question a Belief based on Faith but did Not Question Your OWN Belief which is BASED primarily on BLIND FAITH...

    "ITS TRUE because Scientist TOLD me so... IT MUST be the TRUTH because i READ it from the Internet" --> Pathetic BLIND FAITH...

  2. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    like using your mind to which it is capable, like reasoning than being afraid to reason, questioning than being afraid to question.. we as humans are capable of understanding things in its empirical order and this belief on an afterlife eternal damnation will just anchor it down steadily in mediocrity., that to me is blasphemy.. now on to my question..
    Believe me, I asked the same questions as you. Ang nakalahi lang nako is gidawat nako kung asa ra ko kutob kay naa may butang nga di pa nako mahibaw-an sa pagkakaron which will be revealed later. Kung asa ra kutob ang giingon sa Ginoo adto ra sad ko didto. I can speculate on the possibilities but that's it. Yes we are capable of understanding things but not everything since not all are revealed. Matod pa ni Pablo: Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. I don't know why you came up with the conclusion that believing the after life will diminish your capability of understanding. I think there are just things that we're not capable of understanding for now.

    So that's like saying nga mkalimtan nimo imong family sa impyerno kong toa nka sa langit? or dili mkalimtan but you'll get convinced that it's okay and that maybe they deserve it?
    I'm saying I don't know how God will go about it. He promised that there will be no mourning and crying. He who promised us is faithful. Whether He will let us forget or we will be able to accept it is not my primary concern right now. My concern is how to live my life fitting for the gospel so that those people that I love will come to know Christ and be saved.

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    Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
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    10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
    9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
    8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
    7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
    6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
    5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
    4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
    3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
    2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
    1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

  4. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    LOL, kanus a man mudaug ang Atheist nga if walay DIOS, walay Afterlife, Walay consciousness after mamatay... So ma Atheist or Theist, if walay Dios, TABLA...
    nganong tabla man?? kamo ra nang sigeg storya sa inyung imaginary friend aka jesus the shabu

    kung walay ginoo, mura mog mga drug addict nga gikawatan og shabu...mabuang mog samot

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    You ALSO have FAITH... the sad thing is You did Not Know about it...

    Believing on the RESULT formulated by Scientist without any SELF verification has MORE Faith than THEIST
    hospital = science

    prayer= faith

    kung mahilantan ko, adto ko sa science..

    when it comes to god's existence, adto gihapon ko sa science kay wala may scientific consensus nga mostorya ang bitin.

    ana ra ka simple...ayaw na libuga libuga imong bogok nga utok

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Believe me, I asked the same questions as you. Ang nakalahi lang nako is gidawat nako kung asa ra ko kutob kay naa may butang nga di pa nako mahibaw-an sa pagkakaron which will be revealed later. Kung asa ra kutob ang giingon sa Ginoo adto ra sad ko didto. I can speculate on the possibilities but that's it. Yes we are capable of understanding things but not everything since not all are revealed. Matod pa ni Pablo: Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. I don't know why you came up with the conclusion that believing the after life will diminish your capability of understanding. I think there are just things that we're not capable of understanding for now.
    If you did, you did not asked deeper.. there's nothing wrong with accepting what we dont know, it's filling these holes with assumptions of divine grandeur that's wrong, like what you just did, because by then people will just stop at where they are and make no more room to further search for answers to questions they have no idea about.. that's a degrading thing to do, especially to what you like to consider as a god-given brain that is designed to pursue knowledge, perhaps without a limit., more like that parable of the talents by which a slave buried his lent money., you spend so much time worrying about losing it, that you take the wrong option of burying yourself so as to preserve yourself for judgement, that's blasphemous..

    I'm saying I don't know how God will go about it. He promised that there will be no mourning and crying. He who promised us is faithful. Whether He will let us forget or we will be able to accept it is not my primary concern right now. My concern is how to live my life fitting for the gospel so that those people that I love will come to know Christ and be saved.
    lol.. i expected you to answer that question better than everybody i asked, but it seems you're just like everybody.. imagine your house on fire with your family inside it, and you see hear their screams, and there's nothing you can do to save them,.. now multiply that by an eternity.. that's what it will be like when, for the sake of argument, the conditions i mentioned are set forth to happen when you die.. and you are expecting nga malipay gihapon ka sa langit for however reason god will go about it?.. lol.. take no offense, but i think your religion has turned you into a numb person if you ask me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
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    10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
    9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
    8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
    7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
    6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
    5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
    4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
    3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
    2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
    1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
    copy pasted from atheism website ang kataw-anan kay motuo ug evil...if god doesn't exist, definitely evil wont exist too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Mama View Post
    nganong tabla man?? kamo ra nang sigeg storya sa inyung imaginary friend aka jesus the shabu

    kung walay ginoo, mura mog mga drug addict nga gikawatan og shabu...mabuang mog samot
    mao di ie nabuang ka...wala man gud kay Ginoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Mama View Post
    hospital = science

    prayer= faith

    kung mahilantan ko, adto ko sa science..

    when it comes to god's existence, adto gihapon ko sa science kay wala may scientific consensus nga mostorya ang bitin.

    ana ra ka simple...ayaw na libuga libuga imong bogok nga utok
    pero kung hapit na mamatay kay wala nay kaayohan ang sakit, dili na madala sa science modangop dayon sa Ginoo aron mag-ampo, patawag pa ang pamilya ug pari para misahan yawat nalang malangit, pagka hipokrito

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    copy pasted from atheism website ang kataw-anan kay motuo ug evil...if god doesn't exist, definitely evil wont exist too

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    hehehehe... bilib jud ko nimo migo, maaio mo search
    BTW, "assuming" ra na migo kung ni-exist ang deity

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    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    hehehehe... bilib jud ko nimo migo, maaio mo search
    BTW, "assuming" ra na migo kung ni-exist ang deity
    aw okies assuming ra di ie na?

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