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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Well, if there's anyone in this wide universe who has every right to have an imposing character that is none other than God. He who holds everything with the power of his word. Problema lang ninyo is inyo ipakagamay ang Ginoo ipareha ninyog tao. Same character displayed by someone but then he was thrown out of heaven.

    Why not? If you still want to live go to the hospital. If he would not grant your desire to live he would take you anyway.

    You're talking to the wrong guy. I don't believe in that.

    Yeah right, even the Israelites themeselves were punished because they're stubborn and here you are expecting non-Israelite to follow Joshua.

    Yeah I know, I know. There's a "chance" that they will follow those teachings heartily. You see, we are not certain of that, but God, being omniscient knows and He is certain of what will happen. Since He knows what's going to happen, his decision of killing those little ones is more trustworthy than your seemingly wonderful suggestion.

    Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said: “Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge?

    I cannot answer that because I don't have the mind of God. You're like asking a cup to temporarily hold all the waters of the ocean or an i386 computer to process complex operations only a supercomputer can do. Absurd.

    probably but Christians are put in a situation where we have the opportunity to glorify God. A situation where we have the opportunity to improve our lives and be a blessing to others. Sadly, daghan wa kakita ana nga opportunity kay lain sila ug perspective.
    typical Christian hymn sang in discord... lol.. are you even a catholic? or one of those christian groupies?

    if god have the knowledge of what's going to happen? then why create children in the first place? then why create those kind of people in the first place? why send prophets to try and convince those people in the first place? hmmmm... maybe nakita niya ang possibility nga ma change sila noh?... ever thought about that? wait kabaw nko sa imong tubag.. wala ka kabaw kay ang ginoo ray nakabaw..

    arrgh! it wouldve been great to hear your answers to my questions.. but you're always avoiding it.. seem to me like you don't understand what you're getting into, how can you even seek the kingdom of your god when you dont even know where you are going.. "basta, mao na" are the only words i hear from you.. you are not trying to find answers, your stuck with Romans 9:16-29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabs7 View Post
    hahaha nakalimot ka na base on faith mi? its our faith to believe in it...ikaw may nangita sa ebedensya..pakit-a sa mi sa imong proof or evidence na dili ni tinuod ug mga delusion raning amoa, basin ma convince pa mi nimo ug mag atheist nalang

    lisod man sad kaayo ug motuo nalang mi dayon sa imong claims nga dili ni tinuod unya ang ending wala man sad kay ipakita di ie. gusto kag sample? kay akong balikon ton example nako bahin sa mangilogay ug yuta

    IF YOU CAN'T PRESENT EVIDENCE OF YOUR CLAIMS = FAITH WINS kay klaro nga FAITH raman sad ng imo hahaha
    thnx for admitting that you have no evidence...you only got faith which is an excuse for people who can't provide evidence..

    faith was never use to solve problems or answer questions in the history of mankind... your faith or wishful thinking is not a proof of your god's existence.

    as always, atheists win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    typical Christian hymn sang in discord... lol.. are you even a catholic? or one of those christian groupies?
    If it's still not so obvious to you, no, I'm not Roman Catholic.

    if god have the knowledge of what's going to happen? then why create children in the first place?
    Everything that He created was for Him to give Him glory. Everything He created was good. Unfortunately man sinned. That's when everything went sour. Why would still God create something if He knew it will go bad? It's something that's difficult to understand because we are not like God. For us humans, if we know that something is going to get bad we will stop. But God, with His infinite knowledge and wisdom, he can turn a bad thing to good. If man did not sin we would not appreciate His grace and mercy. Simple as that.

    then why create those kind of people in the first place?
    Are you asking why He created sinners? lol.. man chose sin.. It's not God's doing.

    why send prophets to try and convince those people in the first place? hmmmm... maybe nakita niya ang possibility nga ma change sila noh?... ever thought about that? wait kabaw nko sa imong tubag.. wala ka kabaw kay ang ginoo ray nakabaw..
    Sayop ka.. lol.. kabalo ko nga kabalo ang Ginoo nga makasala ang tao.. ang tubag naa sa taas.

    arrgh! it wouldve been great to hear your answers to my questions.. but you're always avoiding it..
    You're talking nonsense here. Does "cannot" and "will not" mean the same thing to you? To me they don't. Your accusation would've make sense if I said I will not answer, but I said I cannot answer. Even if I'm capable of answering it, which then I would've replied "I will not answer that...", I will not answer the question. You see, I fear the Lord. To answer the question would put myself on God's shoes, which is preposterous. To me, to even think of being God is blasphemous. The bible spoke of someone who wanted to be like God and he was thrown out of heaven. If you want to follow his lead, go ahead, but me, I'll pass the offer. Thanks though.

    seem to me like you don't understand what you're getting into, how can you even seek the kingdom of your god when you dont even know where you are going.. "basta, mao na" are the only words i hear from you.. you are not trying to find answers, your stuck with Romans 9:16-29.
    Oh I exactly know where I am and where I'm going. If that's the only thing you heard from me, you probably need to open your mind a little bit. Of course I'll stick of what's revealed because it's for me. What is not revealed is for God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Mama View Post
    thnx for admitting that you have no evidence...you only got faith which is an excuse for people who can't provide evidence..

    faith was never use to solve problems or answer questions in the history of mankind... your faith or wishful thinking is not a proof of your god's existence.

    as always, atheists win
    Kinsay nag sulti nimo nga ni admit ko? Ang ako ra gisulti base on faith....ug kanang imo base on faith rasad and also you dont have any evidence to present.

    Therefor: FAITH WINS AGAIN gusto kag proof? Kay imong ebdinsya base on FAITH rasad

    And this is your excuse to avoid answering the questions "where are your evidence" hahaha

    Kay ngano kana imo g faith naka show ug evidence na wala siya mo exists? Kung naa man gani bi asa man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    If it's still not so obvious to you, no, I'm not Roman Catholic.

    Everything that He created was for Him to give Him glory. Everything He created was good. Unfortunately man sinned. That's when everything went sour. Why would still God create something if He knew it will go bad? It's something that's difficult to understand because we are not like God. For us humans, if we know that something is going to get bad we will stop. But God, with His infinite knowledge and wisdom, he can turn a bad thing to good. If man did not sin we would not appreciate His grace and mercy. Simple as that.

    Are you asking why He created sinners? lol.. man chose sin.. It's not God's doing.

    Sayop ka.. lol.. kabalo ko nga kabalo ang Ginoo nga makasala ang tao.. ang tubag naa sa taas.

    You're talking nonsense here. Does "cannot" and "will not" mean the same thing to you? To me they don't. Your accusation would've make sense if I said I will not answer, but I said I cannot answer. Even if I'm capable of answering it, which then I would've replied "I will not answer that...", I will not answer the question. You see, I fear the Lord. To answer the question would put myself on God's shoes, which is preposterous. To me, to even think of being God is blasphemous. The bible spoke of someone who wanted to be like God and he was thrown out of heaven. If you want to follow his lead, go ahead, but me, I'll pass the offer. Thanks though.

    Oh I exactly know where I am and where I'm going. If that's the only thing you heard from me, you probably need to open your mind a little bit. Of course I'll stick of what's revealed because it's for me. What is not revealed is for God.
    lol, daan pa lage ko kutob rajd ka sa Romans 9:16-29.. you're too cautious and too conscious that you forget to realize your very purpose.. with that i take pity on you because you dont know what you are missing.. ciao..

    Ok one last question,. kong mamatay ka nya malangit ka, but imong loved once na impyerno, malipay kaha ka didto even if you know nga nangapaig na imong pamilya?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    lol, daan pa lage ko kutob rajd ka sa Romans 9:16-29.. you're too cautious and too conscious that you forget to realize your very purpose.. with that i take pity on you because you dont know what you are missing.. ciao..
    What did I miss? Educate me then.

    It's more pitiful for a man to have known God but end up rejecting Him. Just like the Amalekites who had a chance of partaking Israel's blessings but chose to oppose God, they missed something good.

    Ok one last question,. kong mamatay ka nya malangit ka, but imong loved once na impyerno, malipay kaha ka didto even if you know nga nangapaig na imong pamilya?..
    It's a sad thing if imong loved ones na impyerno. That's why as much as possible mo share jud ko nila. Mao pud siguro na ang rason ngano niingon ang bible "He will wipe every tear from their eyes". Then there's His promise that there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. I don't know how will God do it but that's His promise. I believe Him because He is faithful. So why would I worry?

    Abraham followed God even though he didn't know every detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    It's a sad thing if imong loved ones na impyerno. That's why as much as possible mo share jud ko nila. Mao pud siguro na ang rason ngano niingon ang bible "He will wipe every tear from their eyes". Then there's His promise that there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. I don't know how will God do it but that's His promise. I believe Him because He is faithful. So why would I worry?

    Abraham followed God even though he didn't know every detail.
    So that's like saying nga mkalimtan nimo imong family sa impyerno kong toa nka sa langit? or dili mkalimtan but you'll get convinced that it's okay and that maybe they deserve it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    So that's like saying nga mkalimtan nimo imong family sa impyerno kong toa nka sa langit? or dili mkalimtan but you'll get convinced that it's okay and that maybe they deserve it?
    What did I miss? educate me.. answer my question first before I answer yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    What did I miss? educate me.. answer my question first before I answer yours.
    like using your mind to which it is capable, like reasoning than being afraid to reason, questioning than being afraid to question.. we as humans are capable of understanding things in its empirical order and this belief on an afterlife eternal damnation will just anchor it down steadily in mediocrity., that to me is blasphemy.. now on to my question..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa Mama View Post
    you still have no evidence.. atheists win
    LOL, kanus a man mudaug ang Atheist nga if walay DIOS, walay Afterlife, Walay consciousness after mamatay... So ma Atheist or Theist, if walay Dios, TABLA...

    I wonder Who TOLD you about BEING a follower of Non Existence can make you WIN anything? hehe

    on the OTHER hand you atheist are the Sure Loser because of your HATE and CONFUSION on what to believe ...

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