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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow_tree View Post
    what or which religion?
    Christianity during the Inquisition
    Islam then and now
    even Buddhism in Burma
    During biblical times, even Joshua was raising the banner of this new breed of Christianity to assail destruction upon the land of Canaan..

    every religion, no matter how good the intention, whenever held by the hands of a powerful tyrant can be exploited and alienated.

    so like i said, it's not about religion, it's about greed for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Yup, there's a chance for peace to reign supreme if all religion is eradicated.
    Probably kung naa kay imong own definition of PEACE,...basin mahitabo nah....Pero kung ato lng tan-awn ang general definition of peace which is the absence of war and conflict,.. .. Lisod nah bro,...There is war because there is a constant desire for man to do so...Conflict is always inevitable. Saying that Peace will reign if religions are eradicated is somehow baseless...but again depende na kung naa kay kaugalingon nimong definition sa peace,..then wa nakoi mahimo.

  4. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Question, Malinaw kaha ang kalibutan KARUN if WALAY Religion? or if Wagtangun karun ang religion?

    Dili gyud mglinawon cguro..wala ta khibaw kay impossible mn pud ni matubag nga question..
    but all I can say for sure nga part ang religion sa kagubot sa kalibutan...



    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post

    Theres No need for basis to do Good? can you justify that?

    Everything has basis. God Does Not Talk to us Directly, we only have the Written of Spoken tradition to follow. AND IF its written, then it will HAVE different interpretation even if you dont have any Religion. If you put 2 people and let them Read something from the same Bible, they will always have Different interpretation.
    We should have basis to do Good of course..that is why naa ta mga balaod..Its just I'm not talking about balaod sa simbahan (pero dili ko totally disagree sa tanan ha.. naa lng uban..(see my related argument below))




    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    This answers TS question: Dili diay pwede kita ray mo distinguish unsaon pagbuhat ug MAAYO?
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Nganong wa man sad ka kauyon? Wa ka kauyon kay natandog imong habit? Di na pwede nga wa ka kauyon kay naigo ka sa wali sa pari..
    Bottomline ang atong pasukaran tanan is ang bible.


    We are talking about pagbuhat ug maayo, wala pa ta nag hisgot ug pagbuhat ug dautan.. Kay tawo ra mn ta, kahibaw gyud ta unsa ang dili maayo base sa ato nihibaw-an gkan sa atuang parents, friends, etc...Pero naa uban gipili ang pag buhat ug dautan/sayop.. Mao na naay sakto para nko pero sayop para nimo..

    EX: Pagpamaligya ug rebolto & other religious items nga naay presyo.. halos tanan sulod sa simbahan naay presyo..(bunyag, lubong..etc..) ... This simply means, sakto ni para NILA pero sayop ni para nako.. so mobalik ra gihapon ta ug pangutana "Unsa man diay sakto base sa BIBLE? (like you said)"..

    Base on my example above, makaingon ko nga sakto ka ("Wa ko kauyon kay natandog..") pero DILI naigo sa wali OR ang habit maoy natandog.. I just have the actual facts (pls check back my post and you will understand what I meant)..

    Back to my question: What are the standards you are referring to? (I'm already stating my sample so will have point to meet bro..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    Christianity during the Inquisition
    Islam then and now
    even Buddhism in Burma
    During biblical times, even Joshua was raising the banner of this new breed of Christianity to assail destruction upon the land of Canaan..

    every religion, no matter how good the intention, whenever held by the hands of a powerful tyrant can be exploited and alienated.

    so like i said, it's not about religion, it's about greed for power.
    I totally agree sir..
    Its like padre Damaso and Binays,.. We see how they work, but still they pursuing the thought of following them because if not (kahibaw namo sa rason..Ginoo na dayun ang gamiton..)

  6. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    yup brader
    ah mao bah. naglibog lang ko gamay .
    Unsay balita ani nakadaog ka brader?

    QUOTE=porbidaman;16997588]
    Dear God,

    Maio unta makadaog mi sa blackout bingo karon Sabado

    Love,
    porbidaman [/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantum View Post
    ah mao bah. naglibog lang ko gamay .
    Unsay balita ani nakadaog ka brader?

    QUOTE=porbidaman;16997588]
    Dear God,

    Maio unta makadaog mi sa blackout bingo karon Sabado

    Love,
    porbidaman
    [/QUOTE]

    wa ko kadaog brader
    sayo ko nag waiting unya
    ang nigawas #4 kaysa 2, sayang kaaio, ako na untay nakadaog sa P12K
    karon napud saturday brader kai 13K

  8. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    yup, for now there are many believers. It might take a long time for people to realize that gods are invented only.
    You're seemingly right with this... I totally agree that gods are only interest....And there is only One Real God, The creator..

  9. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by rafee View Post
    Dili gyud mglinawon cguro..wala ta khibaw kay impossible mn pud ni matubag nga question..
    but all I can say for sure nga part ang religion sa kagubot sa kalibutan...


    We should have basis to do Good of course..that is why naa ta mga balaod..Its just I'm not talking about balaod sa simbahan (pero dili ko totally disagree sa tanan ha.. naa lng uban..(see my related argument below))





    We are talking about pagbuhat ug maayo, wala pa ta nag hisgot ug pagbuhat ug dautan.. Kay tawo ra mn ta, kahibaw gyud ta unsa ang dili maayo base sa ato nihibaw-an gkan sa atuang parents, friends, etc...Pero naa uban gipili ang pag buhat ug dautan/sayop.. Mao na naay sakto para nko pero sayop para nimo..

    EX: Pagpamaligya ug rebolto & other religious items nga naay presyo.. halos tanan sulod sa simbahan naay presyo..(bunyag, lubong..etc..) ... This simply means, sakto ni para NILA pero sayop ni para nako.. so mobalik ra gihapon ta ug pangutana "Unsa man diay sakto base sa BIBLE? (like you said)"..

    Base on my example above, makaingon ko nga sakto ka ("Wa ko kauyon kay natandog..") pero DILI naigo sa wali OR ang habit maoy natandog.. I just have the actual facts (pls check back my post and you will understand what I meant)..

    Back to my question: What are the standards you are referring to? (I'm already stating my sample so will have point to meet bro..)
    If mao na imo reason then maybe talk to them about it. I think the pope is even on your side with this. Di nalang ko mo touch anang rebolto2 kay di man ko uyon nga naa na sila ma OT lang ta.

    Yes, ang basehan naa sa bible. You'll know if mobasa ka. Mao na appreciate sauna ang gibuhat sa Bereans kay ila gisusi kon tinood ba jud ang gisulti sa nagwali. Naa man gud tendency nga masagulag binuang labi nang naay motibo.. Naa lang jud mga tao nga sama ni Hudas di man na nimo malikayan. Pero bisan pag ni traydor si Hudas wa man sila niundang ug meet wala sila na discourage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    If mao na imo reason then maybe talk to them about it. I think the pope is even on your side with this. Di nalang ko mo touch anang rebolto2 kay di man ko uyon nga naa na sila ma OT lang ta.

    Yes, ang basehan naa sa bible. You'll know if mobasa ka. Mao na appreciate sauna ang gibuhat sa Bereans kay ila gisusi kon tinood ba jud ang gisulti sa nagwali. Naa man gud tendency nga masagulag binuang labi nang naay motibo.. Naa lang jud mga tao nga sama ni Hudas di man na nimo malikayan. Pero bisan pag ni traydor si Hudas wa man sila niundang ug meet wala sila na discourage.
    Well, I guess dili man kinahnglan nga i-apil ang rebolto,.this is the proper time cguro pra i-generalize na nimo to "sacred things" nga gipangbaligya pra magkaabot atung huna2.. If mo end up ta Bible then pabasahon pa gyud ko nimo.. then whats the purpose? Akoa lng gihpon nga pagsabot about unsa ang "maayo" ang masunod..

    That is why in simple logical form:
    Good + Good= Good
    Good + Bad = Bad

    Mao niingon ko nga dili kinahanglan sa tanan panahon naa ka basehan kung unsa "Maayo" nga binuhatan, kay kita mismo mka-identify nata unsa ang Maayo ug Dili Maayo.. tawo ra gyud ang mopili asa iyang gnahan (of course w/ consequences base on his decision)

    anyway, its your decision not to answer.. Na curious lng gyud ko ana inyo giingon nga "Standards" or "Basehan" nga mga words sa pagdisisyon/pagbuhat ug "maayo" (again, except sa law of the land ky given na na) .. Wa lang gyud ko kasabot mao nangayo ko ug example..

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