Religion or NO Religion?

[Jhared]

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imo mang giconclude nga fact ang evolution dritso gud... tan awa gud ang definition sa theory and why theory pa na ang evolution.... if fact na jud na siya, and accepted najud and proven through scientific method, then it will be called a LAW... like sa definition, naay mga facts and evidences nga nagsupport, but if kulangan pa na nga mga evidences, then it will remain a theory.. and i think we know what a theory means ryt?

theories are the closest representation of reality.. when tested, proved, supported by empirical evidences, experimented on and produces the same results everytime, then it becomes a representation of those properties which we cannot comprehend with our naked senses..

it is just a theory that electrons are running through the copper wires when you turn on the switch, but we rely on that theory to manipulate the property of electricity thus we create efficient devices for our needs.. so just because it's only a theory it doesn't mean that you automatically reject it..

but with regards to evolution, it's a property of nature that we cannot observe under the microscope because genetic change is very minute.. the only go-to scheme to prove it is to gather and compare fossils.. like searching for transitional species like the legged fish, because it was theorized that land creatures were once fishes, indeed they found a fossil of a legged fish.. so you see although it is just a theory, but it is the best scientific explanation we have..

[SioDenz]

but with regards to evolution, it's a property of nature that we cannot observe under the microscope because genetic change is very minute.. the only go-to scheme to prove it is to gather and compare fossils.. like searching for transitional species like the legged fish, because it was theorized that land creatures were once fishes, indeed they found a fossil of a legged fish.. so you see although it is just a theory, but it is the best scientific explanation we have..

So Evolution as a Theory is under Rationalism and Not Empiricism?

[Jhared]

So Evolution as a Theory is under Rationalism and Not Empiricism?

im not sure what you are trying to ask.. but using absolute empiricism to deduce data can at times drag down the course scientific development.

[Vedder]

In Fairness bilib ko aning SioDenz maski mura na siyag buang mu insist jud siya na gi magicx2 ra siya iyahang ginoo ang tao, maski unsa pang klaseng ebidensiya ang isagpa sa iyaha dili jud siya mu tuo sa evolution, mu stick jud siya sa gipang-ingon sa fairytale bible, BILIB ko nimo pre, naa kay paninindigan sa imuhang relihiyon.

Dili pariha adtong @noy na bagag nawong, evolution was directed by his imaginary friend daw kuno, unya pag pangitaan ug ebidensiya mag dramax2 unya puros speculation ang ihatag sa akoa.

[pakinimo]

imo mang giconclude nga fact ang evolution dritso gud... tan awa gud ang definition sa theory and why theory pa na ang evolution.... if fact na jud na siya, and accepted najud and proven through scientific method, then it will be called a LAW... like sa definition, naay mga facts and evidences nga nagsupport, but if kulangan pa na nga mga evidences, then it will remain a theory.. and i think we know what a theory means ryt?

Do you have any idea of what you are saying?

a theory NEVER becomes a law.
a theory is the HIGHEST FORM of scientific explanation

a theory is used to explain a FACT.

I see nga wa giud diay ka nag basa sir kapila nako balik2x nimo. Mao nai nakapaet dinhi kay confident kaau mos inyo gipang sturyahan nia wa mo kabasa diay.

naa pai muingon nga evolution gikan kuno ta sa monkeys, klaro kaayo wa nag basa.

Angay anang d mag basa d nalang mopost dre kay sayang sa oras sayop ra diay gihapon isulti kay wa nag research

THEORY, LAW, and FACT are different things and NEVER transition to each other.

Nia karon sir, daog kos pusta nga 5k nga wa nimo gi google? daog ko sah?

[porbidaman]

[JcBoY]

the fact that it is written in the quran and CAN be misinterpreted and CAN be used by religious extremists to wage violence and influence others to commit atrocities they would not have done if the holy book didn't say so according to their leaders is exactly the problem.

I can’t understand why people who have never so much read the book about a subject appoint themselves experts on it. This kind of perception reminds me of an Indian story of The Blind Men and the Elephant.

how can one MORAL and RATIONALE person take to heart what a book that was written ages ago from a different time period and apply it to todays society? perfect example of people being silly.

The Holy Qur’an claims to be a Book of Guidance, for man. It is a Book that is available to whole mankind indeed it addresses itself, by and large, to the totality of mankind. Its message is relevant to different people living in different parts of the world. Its message is valid for all times to come, in other words it is not a Book that will ever be out of date. Such a claim, in principle at least, as can be appreciated, should be capable of being substantiated by appeal to historical evidences. If the Qur’an is at all a Book of Universal Guidance in the sense that its message is relevant to all people in all ages and climes, it must have had, in the course of these fourteen hundred years of its existence, a decisive impact on human history, in particular, it must have had a liberating and transforming influence on the lives of those who may have come under its spell. I submit that clear historical evidence in support of the claim of the Holy Qur’an exists. A brief glance over history would be enough to provide sufficient proof of the claim that there has been no such book that has ever influenced human societies to the magnitude of the Qur'an. In our contemporary world, there are more than fifty countries whose laws were based on the teachings of the Qur’an. And insha’Allah(God willing) more countries will follow.

[battouter]

I can’t understand why people who have never so much read the book about a subject appoint themselves experts on it. This kind of perception reminds me of an Indian story of The Blind Men and the Elephant.

i claim no such thing. i have read enough parts of it just to verify what the positive and the negative things people say about it. and yes, killing for the sake of the religion is clearly there. and like i said, it is matter of how religious nuts interprets it to further an agenda. this just another case of a believer defending a religion, despite it's silliness and non-sense.

The Holy Qur’an claims to be a Book of Guidance, for man.

yes the book CLAIMS to be a book of guidance. isn't that what every other religion is trying to sell you?

religion preaches their holy book to be the absolute truth and CLAIM to be written by the divine. the messages of about peace is valid and for all time, but treating women as second class citizens and all the other silliness the quran demands its followers to do is just absolutely insane.

A brief glance over history would be enough to provide sufficient proof of the claim that there has been no such book that has ever influenced human societies to the magnitude of the Qur'an.

christianity and every other religion would beg to differ.

Its message is valid for all times to come, in other words it is not a Book that will ever be out of date.

islamic laws are totally tyrannical, outdated, medieval and downright ridiculous. no society should be ever subjected to it.

If the Qur’an is at all a Book of Universal Guidance in the sense that its message is relevant to all people in all ages and climes, it must have had, in the course of these fourteen hundred years of its existence, a decisive impact on human history, in particular, it must have had a liberating and transforming influence on the lives of those who may have come under its spell.

all religions which were widely spread was due to the fact that the conquering empire, be it christian or muslim, demanded the conquered nation to convert or face death. people converted because they wanted to live. religion was spread through war, death and destruction.

this how silly all religions are. all claiming to be the one true faith, all claiming to be divine when in reality all are man made and all are subjected to the fallible nature of it's maker, man. yet they insist that their book is never wrong.

completely child-like with it's silliness.

[JcBoY]

...islamic laws are totally tyrannical, outdated, medieval and downright ridiculous. no society should be ever subjected to it.

You may say whatever you want but on the contrary Islamic laws have already proven that it was able to raised a civilize society and a vibrant ideology that existing ideologies cannot but frighten by Islamic resurgent.

all religions which were widely spread was due to the fact that the conquering empire, be it christian or muslim, demanded the conquered nation to convert or face death. people converted because they wanted to live. religion was spread through war, death and destruction.

Totally absurd and a mere product of speculation in desperate attempt to malign Islam...the fact that no Muslims conquered Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Turkey, some countries which were once part of the USSR and some Balkan countries and converted its population to Islam destroyed your allegation. The Muslims never force to convert the Spanish to Islam when they ruled Spain for almost eight centuries...that’s a fact! And Islam as the fastest growing religion in the world today does not force Americans, Europeans, Chinese and more to convert to Islam...and that’s fact!!!

[battouter]

You may say whatever you want but on the contrary Islamic laws have already proven that it was able to raised a civilize society and a vibrant ideology that existing ideologies cannot but frighten by Islamic resurgent.

yes, because it's been obviously working flawlessly in the middle-east. ironically, muslim countries while NOT all but the majority, are by far the worst when it comes intolerance to other religions. no allegations here, just the reality of the world. some people would rather live in their own delusions rather than face the fact.

Totally absurd and a mere product of speculation in desperate attempt to malign Islam...the fact that no Muslims conquered Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Turkey, some countries which were once part of the USSR and some Balkan countries and converted its population to Islam destroyed your allegation. The Muslims never force to convert the Spanish to Islam when they ruled Spain for almost eight centuries...that’s a fact! And Islam as the fastest growing religion in the world today does not force Americans, Europeans, Chinese and more to convert to Islam...and that’s fact!!!

religion was spread through war, especially christianity and islam, that is a historical fact.

perfect example how effective indoctrination by religion works. defend the lies despite the lack of real evidence or proof.