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  1. #1151

    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    why do you think Lucifer oppose God mga migoz?
    hi sir...one reason is that lucifer questioned God's laws if it is just or unjust... but the main reason is that he is jealous of God.. he wants to be like the Most High... he wants to be a god himself and he succeeded at that. in fact, daghan devil worshipers karon... but he will never be higher than God..never ever will be

  2. #1152
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal_Envy View Post
    taka2x lang kag reply oi...wa ka kasabot...ni-abot kag gubat2x layo ra kaau sa akoang punto.

    paghilom na lang dira kay bogo kaau ka..

    ang punto sa lucifer arc, nganong mo-oppose man si lucifer sa ginoo nga kabalo na man si lucifer daan nga wa siyay dag-anan??

    ngano sad gibuhat sa ginoo si lucifer in the first place nga kabalo na man siya nga mo-oppose si lucifer sa future??

    kita ka unsa ka-bulok ang lucifer story?? wa nagkadimao.. bogo man gud ang author sa bible liwat nimo
    i see your point.. ive asked this question myself... like i said, we have our own free will.. God never knew that lucifer will disobey Him... God will never control anyones decisions... why?? simple.. love.. love cannot be forced... wa magkadimao para nimo kay mo jump ka sa conclusions without knowing the whole story...

  3. #1153
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    good day quantum as well... its okay sir... im not looking for debates either but conversations... the 2 Sabbaths was the seventh day Sabbath which is in the 10 commandments, and the sabbath or should i say sabbaths in Deuteronomy 23 which is included in the ceremonial laws... no where in the Bible even in the new testament that the seventh day Sabbath or the moral Sabbath was abolished...

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    actually, evil existed or sin first happened in heaven when Lucifer/Satan disobeyed and became jealous of God.

    well then I stand corrected hehehe. Thank you

  4. #1154
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    why do you think Lucifer oppose God mga migoz?
    He wanted to be like God

    How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! You said in your heart, I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God. I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’ Isa.14:12-14
    Last edited by NapoleonBlownapart; 09-23-2014 at 04:39 PM.

  5. #1155
    God never created evil. . being evil is a choice.

  6. #1156
    A lot of questions about Acts of God and Evil - which is suppose to be non-existence in the first

  7. #1157
    Maybe Evil is just the product of mans free will?

  8. #1158
    Quote Originally Posted by Batmanthe26th View Post
    Speaking from a theist (Roman Catholic to be specific) point of view. evil started to exist the moment adam and eve was tempted by the snake
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    actually, evil existed or sin first happened in heaven when Lucifer/Satan disobeyed and became jealous of God.
    I would say that both of you are correct.
    Evil as we relate more closer to human being would have started on earth - adam & eve temptation.
    But if we are to delve further to include heaven then Lucifer would be were it started.

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  10. #1160
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    . God never knew that lucifer will disobey Him...
    so your god is not omniscient??

    if your god is not all knowing/omniscient, then he is not perfect..

    atheism wins again

    ayaw na lagi og sabat kay bisan unsa-on nimo wala kay dag-anan.

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