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  1. #571

    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    hehehe wa ka kasabot sio. Kung imong evidence dli ma verify through science dli na valid.

    Ang earthquake dli ma predict pero ma verify na and evident kaau na nga nag exist using seismometers.

    It doesnt have to be quantified to be verifiable. Evidence can be present but not yet measurable.
    So sa year 1500 hundred, since wala pa may TOOL to Quantify the Element Oxygen - Meaning Dili Valid ang Oxygen atu nga time? So based atu na TIME dili FACT ang oxygen kay di man or wala may TOOL para ma Quantify?

    kay if walay tool dili man kaha valid?

  2. #572
    Quote Originally Posted by Weiland View Post
    Are you also open to the idea nga walay ginoo?
    I've been there bai. that's it. before i came up with naa na'y GINOO. hehe

  3. #573
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    What a STUPID question? ay naku ebidensya diay nimo kai espiritu, ang makatubag ra jud ana siodz kai psychiatrist
    Stupid na lagi dayun...


    You said the QUALIFICATION and CRITERIA sa FACT are: SEE, TOUCH, And HEAR...

    I ask you ang Big Bang ba ma QUALIFY as FACT based sa imung Criteria gihatag...


    pasingit ra jud ka taman just to make you feel better or para lang ma tabunan imung guba nga Reasoning ug Basis...

  4. #574
    Question sa mga Atheist kunuhay ngari:

    According to some news:

    Richard Dawkins just said: I can't be sure God does not exist

    "He told the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, that he preferred to call himself an agnostic rather than an atheist. "

    Unsa inyung comment ani?

  5. #575
    Quote Originally Posted by MeaCulpa View Post
    I've been there bai. that's it. before i came up with naa na'y GINOO. hehe
    Open gihapon ka sa idea na walay ginoo?

  6. #576
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    So sa year 1500 hundred, since wala pa may TOOL to Quantify the Element Oxygen - Meaning Dili Valid ang Oxygen atu nga time? So based atu na TIME dili FACT ang oxygen kay di man or wala may TOOL para ma Quantify?

    kay if walay tool dili man kaha valid?
    Dli btaw, kung saunang panahon bsan pag naay oxygen, d na pwede nmo e publish nga naay oxygen and mao na iya tawag if wala pana sya na analyze sa science. Even if nag exist nana sya.

    Bsag unsa nga "evidence" imong iingun dli na ma publish since wala kay ikapakita.

    Ayaw na abut sa FACT kay lahi napod na sya. hehehehe. Using theory, we can say nga naa giud something sa air nga nakapabuhi natu and we can experiment by not breathing if makaya ba natu. Meaning Kelangan giud tag air and ang component ana nga air mao na ang gipangita sa science sauna and now we have discoverd nga naay oxygen and after more research we discovered nga oxygen atong kelangan para magamit sa atong lungs

  7. #577
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Nasuwat diay sa bible migo nga lingin ang kalibutan? di ba flat man ilang gito-ohan? what about sa fingerprints migo nga kita tanan lahi-lahi man jud ug fingerprints?
    yes nasulat sa Bible nga lingin ang kalibutan... Isaiah 40:22 states about the circle of the earth... and circle in hebrew can also mean round or sphere...
    http://www.eternal-productions.org/P...al%20Earth.pdf
    Did Bible writers believe the Earth was flat?

    and about fingerprints...
    Psalm 139:14 "I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    Marvelous are Your works,
    And that my soul knows very well.

    fearfully and wonderfully made... bisan tuod wala diha gaingon specifically about fingerprints, that statement alone describes it... wala man guroy parehas nato ug fingerprint diba? mao nga fearfully and wonderfully made ta kay matag usa nato lahi2 ana hasta mga DNA...

  8. #578
    So back to what you are talking about, we can theoretically say that there is something in air nga nakapabuhi natu and we do not need to quantify it to prove it, but if you want it to go to paperwork level, dha na required ang quantifying and more evidence.

    And evident ang oxygen sa kada tawo.

    Layo ra kaau sa imong claim nga god is a spirit usnaon mana pag prove. Wlai theory nga pwd ana, walay argument nga maka support ana, and walai tool nga maka determine ana

  9. #579
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Stupid na lagi dayun...


    You said the QUALIFICATION and CRITERIA sa FACT are: SEE, TOUCH, And HEAR...

    I ask you ang Big Bang ba ma QUALIFY as FACT based sa imung Criteria gihatag...


    pasingit ra jud ka taman just to make you feel better or para lang ma tabunan imung guba nga Reasoning ug Basis...
    Another stupid statement, from a man who issues statement w/o substance. Asa naman imong ebidensya siodz para maverify nato?

  10. #580
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    Dli btaw, kung saunang panahon bsan pag naay oxygen, d na pwede nmo e publish nga naay oxygen and mao na iya tawag if wala pana sya na analyze sa science. Even if nag exist nana sya.

    Bsag unsa nga "evidence" imong iingun dli na ma publish since wala kay ikapakita.

    Ayaw na abut sa FACT kay lahi napod na sya. hehehehe. Using theory, we can say nga naa giud something sa air nga nakapabuhi natu and we can experiment by not breathing if makaya ba natu. Meaning Kelangan giud tag air and ang component ana nga air mao na ang gipangita sa science sauna and now we have discoverd nga naay oxygen and after more research we discovered nga oxygen atong kelangan para magamit sa atong lungs
    But Oxygen Still Existed during that time even if theres NO tool to Quantify it and even if Science did Not discover it, right?

    So basically what you say is that Facts published or Unpublished by Science is NOT NECESSARILY Means REALITY?
    Kay duna man Diay TIME or Instance nga DILI ma VERIFY sa science or DILI Fact sa science ang isa ka butang pero REAL siya or EXISTED na siya.. same sa example sa oxygen.

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