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  1. #471

    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    I can say the same for a muslim. If naa lang jud muslim dre muatubang nmu bro. Pareha rajud mong duha feel ninyo sakto mong duha
    bro, i feel you... hehe did you know that i doubted God and the Bible myself but then i realized, i havent read the bible yet so i started reading it and my faith became even stronger...

    and about the Muslim and Christians stuff, naa ko nahibaw an nga mga sayop sa Quran bro.... sorry if naay mga Muslims anhi na maigo... i dont intend to hurt your feelings but to tell what i know lang...

    Qur’an 18:83-86—And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people.

    clearly the sun never sets in a muddy spring of hot water...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal_Envy View Post
    ang kalahi-an ang atheist willing mo-change sa ilang mind when evidence comes however ang mga bigoted christians dili jud na mausab ilang huna huna kay para nila sakto jud sila no matter what...

    maong maka-ingon ko "basta christian, bogo"
    bright man kaha ka... how does science express the universe b or in what terms does science express the universe?

  2. #472
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    God is waiting for all of us to be saved... thats why the end has not come yet.. God loves us all and He wants everyone to be saved
    Ahhh yes... The threat of eternal damnation, fire, brimstone and all... Which brings me to ponder on the inherent nature of man in Judea-Christianity's point of view... That needs to be threatened with punishment and offered with reward in order to do good... Is man inherently good or evil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    And you think yours is right? Hehehe
    I do not know which one is right, that's why I want to see...

  3. #473
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    Sakto jud.heheeh

    We change our mind when there is new evidence
    really but changing your mind about God doesn't count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C'thulhu View Post
    Ahhh yes... The threat of eternal damnation, fire, brimstone and all... Which brings me to ponder on the inherent nature of man in Judea-Christianity's point of view... That needs to be threatened with punishment and offered with reward in order to do good... Is man inherently good or evil?

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    I do not know which one is right, that's why I want to see...
    man was created good... but because we have free will, its our own choice to become evil

  4. #474
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    really but changing your mind about God doesn't count?
    Im sorry bro. But since the dawn of man there has NEVER been empirical evidence of god that is testable, verifiable, and demonstrable

  5. #475
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    Im sorry bro. But since the dawn of man there has NEVER been empirical evidence of god that is testable, verifiable, and demonstrable
    ahhhhhhh the to see is to believe stuff... "what is essential is invisible to the naked eye" have u seen air?? or wind? no,right? coz we can feel the air... try God, and you will feel Him too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    Im sorry bro. But since the dawn of man there has NEVER been empirical evidence of god that is testable, verifiable, and demonstrable
    sir, if ever man galeh naay chance ba, willing ka makat on sa Bible?

  6. #476
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    bro, i feel you... hehe did you know that i doubted God and the Bible myself but then i realized, i havent read the bible yet so i started reading it and my faith became even stronger...

    and about the Muslim and Christians stuff, naa ko nahibaw an nga mga sayop sa Quran bro.... sorry if naay mga Muslims anhi na maigo... i dont intend to hurt your feelings but to tell what i know lang...

    Qur’an 18:83-86—And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people.

    clearly the sun never sets in a muddy spring of hot water...
    the quran if flawed? Search up flaws of genesis

    I also feel you bro coz I used to believe as you



    bright man kaha ka... how does science express the universe b or in what terms does science express the universe?
    Pls do not confuse SCIENCE and ATHEISM hehehe

    atheism is merely a disbelief in god.

  7. #477
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    man was created good... but because we have free will, its our own choice to become evil
    So this means that man is inherently evil, that needs to be threatened with eternal damnation never mind the reward in order to do good? Carrot and stick approach?

  8. #478
    Quote Originally Posted by gahob13 View Post
    ahhhhhhh the to see is to believe stuff... "what is essential is invisible to the naked eye" have u seen air?? or wind? no,right? coz we can feel the air... try God, and you will feel Him too...
    Im sorry bro but you do not understand. AIR is scientifically quantifiable.


    sir, if ever man galeh naay chance ba, willing ka makat on sa Bible?
    I'm not sure what you mean. But if you can show me empirical evidence of god, I would believe. But I doubt that since even the genius minds in history have never succeeded or even attempted because it is obviously not provable .

  9. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by C'thulhu View Post
    So this means that man is inherently evil, that needs to be threatened with eternal damnation never mind the reward in order to do good? Carrot and stick approach?
    i dont get your point..

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    the quran if flawed? Search up flaws of genesis

    I also feel you bro coz I used to believe as you


    Pls do not confuse SCIENCE and ATHEISM hehehe

    atheism is merely a disbelief in god.
    i know the so called flaws of Genesis and i researched it too myself... but i havent found one... can you state some examples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    Im sorry bro but you do not understand. AIR is scientifically quantifiable.



    I'm not sure what you mean. But if you can show me empirical evidence of god, I would believe. But I doubt that since even the genius minds in history have never succeeded or even attempted because it is obviously not provable .
    the Bible stated about Moses being one of the princes of Egypt, and the Bible also said that the golden chariots of Pharoah was drowned in the Red Sea when it was split into half and the Israelites passed through it... tan awa ang mga evidence... naa pay traces of that sa Red Sea, and Moses' name is there in Egypt.. murag naa sa pyramids..

  10. #480
    Quote Originally Posted by pakinimo View Post
    the quran if flawed? Search up flaws of genesis

    I also feel you bro coz I used to believe as you


    Pls do not confuse SCIENCE and ATHEISM hehehe

    atheism is merely a disbelief in god.
    that question is not for you btw but since you asked, atheism is a disbelief that there is God, i know.. and most atheists if not, all atheists believe in science thats why im asking

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