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  1. #9181

    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    There are numerous theories regarding the appearance of life on earth, but since you are asking specifically how bacterias appeared,..

    the first bacteria appeared approximately about 3.5 million years ago called Cyanobacterias, bacterias that survive through photosynthesis, much like plants do, they evolved like that because during the Archean eon, earth was much more hotter, and our atmosphere was covered by carbon dioxides, that's why they have to live with every means inorder to survive, consuming the Carbon from the CO2 and farting out the oxygen, these bacterias for millions of years became one of those responsible for the cooling of our earth.. these bacterias evolved from singled-cell organisms called Prokaryotes, which origins deserve another discussion entirely.. so there you go,..
    Thanks sa reply bro..So aside from Prokaryotes, asa man jud gikan ang first organism(s) katong wala pa ang earth, universe, etc.. Naa jud origin ana nila. Imposible kaayo ni kalit lang og exist.

  2. #9182
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    There are numerous theories regarding the appearance of life on earth, but since you are asking specifically how bacterias appeared,..

    the first bacteria appeared approximately about 3.5 million years ago called Cyanobacterias, bacterias that survive through photosynthesis, much like plants do, they evolved like that because during the Archean eon, earth was much more hotter, and our atmosphere was covered by carbon dioxides, that's why they have to live with every means inorder to survive, consuming the Carbon from the CO2 and farting out the oxygen, these bacterias for millions of years became one of those responsible for the cooling of our earth.. these bacterias evolved from singled-cell organisms called Prokaryotes, which origins deserve another discussion entirely.. so there you go,..
    Na typo lang siguro, pero dili 3.5 million but 3.5 BILLION years ago.

  3. #9183
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    Natural Selection because of the Natural and specific laws that binds Nature..
    the question is, how is it that the universe is able to put up specific Laws if everything was supposed to be a product of chance? can something random really produce specifics?

    actually bai, gitubag na nako imung pangutana..through ni Xian120..
    i don't see a point repeating myself..especially nga perti rang duola sa ligas sa mga posts..unya pareha2x ra mo ug punto..
    no offense bai but mas maayo lang kaistorya(with tact) ug mupresent sa argument si Xian..so tell me, do i have any reason nga tubagon pa taka personally? hahaha..i suggest you tag along if you don't wanna be left behind..
    Clearly you the lack knowledge about the cosmos, There are NO "Specific Laws" in the universe, naay ubang galaxy that defies the laws of physics, You should erase the word "Specifics" on your vocubulary when discussing about the cosmos, because nothing is specific when it comes to the universe.

    So I suggest you educate yourself first before entering these kind of discussions, kay ikaw ray ma ulawan kung maptaka kag yawyaw diha.

  4. #9184
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Overwhelming? hehe

    So how did you Come up with those Billion Years of evolution? naa kay PHYSICAL FACTS dha ika present? or Mangopya nsad ka sa internet?
    Physical facts lol basig Physical Evidence?

    Ni andar nasad ang DESPERATE LAST LINE OF DEFENSE NIMO:

    1.naa kay PHYSICAL FACTS dha ika present?
    2.Mangopya nsad ka sa internet?

    Wala sa akoa ang mga physical evidence tua sa mga scientists and what's wrong kung mangopya sa internet? Kumpara sa una na sa mga libro lang ka makabasa about sa mga inganing topic, Mas dali na pangitaun sa internet ang mga findings sa mga Biologists,Zoologists,Ecologists,Geologists,Physic ists etc. Dili sad ko pwede na magpataka ra ug butang sa akoang sariling opinion without knowledge on the different findings of these scientists, because I rely on science and science is all about evidence and research.

    Mao maka conclude ko na EVOLUTION IS A FACT based on the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE presented by THE SCIENTISTS, Now kung mu disagree ka sa akoa na dili na tinuod ang evolution, e explain sa akoa kung asa gikan ang mga modern humans sa imung nahibaw.an, kay basig mu tuo pa ko nimo. (lol)

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    So Science will ULTIMATELY CORRECT itself from time to time. Kay FACT man sad tong kang Charles Lyell and Ernst Haeckel sa una. PERO WRONG diay, so Karun naa sad Bag ong FACT. Sunod ma Wrong nsad, Sunod Ma FACT nsad if naay lain Evidence.

    How can a FACT become Wrong sometime and then a NEW FACT will Emerge after the Previous one was DEBUNK?

    So FACT is RELATIVE?
    That's the beauty of science, Kay pwede ra mu change basing on the evidence presented. Maski gina consider ang isa ka butang as a "FACT" during that time pwede siya mu change if naay hard evidence that would challenge it's authenticity.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    POSSIBLY ? Is it a FACT?

    UNSAON pagka DILI Flaw ana nga WA MAY MATUBAG ang SCIENCE...
    It is still not a fact, Because nothing is a fact on science without solid proof and adequate knwoledge on the subject. But there is a big possibility that something can actually come from nothing kay wala pa jud nato na diskobrehan ug maayo ang universe, because there are certain areas on our universe that defies the laws of physics and are yet to be discovered, mao daghan kaayog possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClockworks View Post
    Na typo lang siguro, pero dili 3.5 million but 3.5 BILLION years ago.
    aw yes of course, tnx..

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    the earth is 5000 years old. humans had pet dinosaurs. there is overwhelming evidence on this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miket07 View Post
    Thanks sa reply bro..So aside from Prokaryotes, asa man jud gikan ang first organism(s) katong wala pa ang earth, universe, etc.. Naa jud origin ana nila. Imposible kaayo ni kalit lang og exist.
    how would i know.. none of us does not know yet kong asa jud,. as long as the circumstances are right, life will always appear, whether here on earth or in some other planets.. yes as far as we are concerned murag imposible jd kaayo, that's because wala pa kaayo ta nka gather ug sufficient data about the true nature of the universe, that is why.. in time, i am positive that we will uncover the true nature of the universe,.. at this moment of time, what you are asking is an impossible question, and perhaps yet premature given the knowledge that we have collectively., but for me it's even more premature to assume that there's a god behind it all..

    so for now let me just leave you with a minute essay i did when i was in college..

    Life, if you study it closely, is just a combination of atoms, and it's self-sustaining much like every other thing in the universe, it is just more complex, and because of its complexity it gives us an illusion that it is a cut above the rest, that it is the apex of everything that exists and that it is special, yet breaking it down, we begin to realize, that all of us, all of the things that we understand as living, is essentially just merely existing, like the immovable and lifeless stone, like the clouds that form above our heads, and like every grain of sand and droplets of water.. we are made of the same substance,.. all and the same.. forever and ever.. Amen (amen added for the benefit of sarcasm)

  8. #9188
    Science itself DEMANDS that for any Theory to be a FACT, Evolution Theorists has to prove the following:

    1. THE THEORY NEEDS TO BE REPLICATED.
    - No scientists has ever created a "living" molecule despite the advances in science. Evolutionists have FAILED TREMENDOUSLY to re-create the "primordial soup" which is thought to be the originator of life.

    Guess what? the "primordial soup" that is thought to have existed (actually no evidence and cant be replicated) is just another GUESSWORK of another "scientist".

    Have they found this "soup" somewhere ? ? The answer might surprise you.


    2. There is SOLID MATERIAL EVIDENCE of what it asserts.
    - Evolutionists have FAILED big time to present a CHRONOLOGICAL, DETAILED, PRECISE, AND ACCURATE material evidence of the missing links.


    Where are the LIVING human-monkey intermediate forms ? ? ? ?
    Oh wait, they've turned into fossils. (standard answer from evolutionists).
    REALLY ? ? ?
    (So much for the clownish reply from evolutionists.)



    And science nowadays has found out that ALL of the human remains/fossils found belong to the single specie: Homo erectus.
    This proves that humans in fact, goes from a CONSISTENT LINE OF ANCESTORS AND HAS NOT EVOLVED FROM ANY LOWER FORMS.

    Clue: Read the latest editions of the scientifically produced Nature and the Scientific American magazine (the FULL VERSION).
    Last edited by newbie.86; 08-22-2014 at 11:33 PM.

  9. #9189
    Quote Originally Posted by TheClockworks View Post
    Clearly you the lack knowledge about the cosmos.
    who doesn't? hahaha
    Quote Originally Posted by TheClockworks View Post
    There are NO "Specific Laws" in the universe, naay ubang galaxy that defies the laws of physics, You should erase the word "Specifics" on your vocubulary when discussing about the cosmos, because nothing is specific when it comes to the universe.
    ahhh..nothing is specific with the cosmos diay..

    how come we are able to study the nature of the cosmos if the laws binding it were ever changing? how come we are able to postulate theories, mathematical models that would describe the reality of the universe if there's no constant basis? hm?

    so possible nga mausab lang ug kalit ang tuyok sa kalibutan? possible nga mag
    salimuang ug kalit ang orbit sa mga planets..so possible nga magbangga ang earth with other planets?
    or is there really an orbit?'cause an orbit is a SPECIFIC path that planets follow man diba? so possible nga magbannga ang moon ug ang earth kay wala man kahay Specific..that should include the gravitational pull between the earth and moon..so possible pud nga mas mupaduol ta sa sun or mupalayo?

    without SPEFICS mister Genius... everything would have been Chaotic..that's why you see ORDER in space because of specifics..that's why scientists are able to trace or pustolate theories of our origins from cosmological to biological because of STEADY, CONSTANT and SPECIFIC Laws of Nature..
    in fact the "Cosmos" is defined as the universe seen as a WELL-ORDERED whole..
    well ordered pero walay specifics? Lol

    there are 4 fundamental forces in Nature but walay specifics.fundamental gani..hahaha

    not saying wala juy kausaban sa tibuok universe bai when it comes to the Laws of Physics that we currently know..'cause wa man jud ta kahibaw sa kinatibukang tinuod up to where the universe actually extends and all the laws binding it..
    we're talking about the known universe..and saying there's nothing SPECIFIC in it
    is just plain rediculous..

    you want proof of something specific? ambak sa building..diba ka ingun kang specific jud diay ning law of gravitation. Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by TheClockworks View Post
    So I suggest you educate yourself first before entering these kind of discussions, kay ikaw ray ma ulawan kung maptaka kag yawyaw diha.
    Captain backfire..is that you? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    so for now let me just leave you with a minute essay i did when i was in college..

    Life, if you study it closely, is just a combination of atoms, wwhehhehee awwawwwaww blaha blah hehehehawwww



    .... AMEN
    PANG MISS UNIVERSE NI NGA TUBAG,,, daghan words pero WAY UNOD , can be summarized in one sentence and will definitely fail on a scientific paper.

    If I were the college professor I would have FAILED you bigtime for this NONSENSE piece made up of highfalutin gibberish.



    I DONT NEED WORDS, I NEED IDEAS !!!
    Last edited by newbie.86; 08-22-2014 at 11:59 PM.

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