The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[noy]

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"mao we can see patterns of creation through cosmological and biological evolution.."

hahahahahahaha ASA MAN ANG PATTERNS OF "CREATION" SA COSMOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION? nag salimuang man siguro ka? Mura sad kag sweto sa cosmos ug biology, Evolution pa lang gani gipaningot na ka, Cosmos pa kaya? As usual Pataka na sad nag abri imong ba.ba BULOK! hahaha! PATTERNS WHAHAHAHA!

HOY GAG0 ASA NAMAN ANG PATTERN SA "CREATION" SA COSMOS UG BIOLOGY?

Hisgot hisgot pa kag cosmos diha mura kag korek, human evolution pa lang gani nagka puliki na kang bugoa ka! hahahah!

tua ra..mutuo ug evolution ug laws of nature pero wala naka recognize ug pattern.? ay nalang lagi brad..kay di gihapun ka ka gets..weeeee...LOL
kung gago ko..ikaw kay gaga! nyahahahaha! aw unsa ba...hehehe

sige na next question na ta guys..

[slabdans]

tua ra..mutuo ug evolution ug laws of nature pero wala naka recognize ug pattern.? ay nalang lagi brad..kay di gihapun ka ka gets..weeeee...LOL
kung gago ko..ikaw kay gaga! nyahahahaha! aw unsa ba...hehehe

sige na next question na ta guys..

Nyahaha mga shuuudeeee Lols

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[gilbert.repunte]

Kung way mo mediate between aning duha..moabot pa jud ug hundred miles before ma exhausted

[noy]

Kung way mo mediate between aning duha..moabot pa jud ug hundred miles before ma exhausted

haha! di na brad..kay di na namo na tubayan...pikhan lang ginagmay kung kinahanglan..hehehe
balik tas Q and A..ang original nga pulos ani nga thread.

next question please

[Ivan James]

Kani lang akoa di ni sya question but eclarify lang kung unsa inyong ikasulti about sa akong pagkaila sa Catholicism. Basing man gud sa akong nabantayan kay ang catholicism man gud nasagulan ug paganism by which ang bibliya na mismo ang niingun na ang christianity kay dili usa ka pagano na belief. The idea of creating images itself is a practice of paganism. Repeating of prayers is one. Nakarealize man gud ko na catholicism kay mura rag the same sa saunang panahun like ang pagsimba nilang Zeus or jupiter etc. Catholicism is following the same pattern although mixed with christianity. with all due respect to all catholics I'm just asking what can you say about my point at least to justify catholicism. daghan man gud ug nausab sa catholicism which is not the same sa kung unsa jud ang real foundation sa christianity.

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Mao to dli nako malimtan kay atheist bya cya nya motoo ug heaven ingon pa cya "kinsa goi dli ganahan malangit?" hahahaha

Mao rani nagdalag hugaw sa mga ngalan sa mga atheist dre.
Mga kaila nako nga Atheist dre sa istorya like marius, kit, ug uban pa kay kaantigo man mo respeto ug opinion sa uban, mga bootan ug wlay samok. Kani ra jud cya kay ang tinood dli man na cya atheist, ganahan lang jud cya tagdon. Basaha balik iyang mga post dba patagad ra kaau. peace.

[noy]

Kani lang akoa di ni sya question but eclarify lang kung unsa inyong ikasulti about sa akong pagkaila sa Catholicism. Basing man gud sa akong nabantayan kay ang catholicism man gud nasagulan ug paganism by which ang bibliya na mismo ang niingun na ang christianity kay dili usa ka pagano na belief. The idea of creating images itself is a practice of paganism. Repeating of prayers is one. Nakarealize man gud ko na catholicism kay mura rag the same sa saunang panahun like ang pagsimba nilang Zeus or jupiter etc. Catholicism is following the same pattern although mixed with christianity. with all due respect to all catholics I'm just asking what can you say about my point at least to justify catholicism. daghan man gud ug nausab sa catholicism which is not the same sa kung unsa jud ang real foundation sa christianity.

thanks bai..that's actually a classic misconception.. this issue has been raised and addressed on this thread for numerous times already..
pero ayos ra..i hope you don't mind but mag post nalang ko ug link for you to check out

Do Catholics Worship Statues? | Catholic Answers

Do Catholics Pray in Vain Repetitions?

Did the Catholic Church Blend Paganism with Christianity?

Is Catholicism Pagan? | Catholic Answers (this link is best viewed with Chrome or Firefox)


Catholicism teaches to worship the Father, Son and Spirit the three persons in One divine being..
One God but in Three persons.. murag layo ra kaayo ang Zeus bai..hehehehe

i hope you'd effort reading through the links i have provided if you really seek answers coming from the Catholic perspective.

[Ivan James]

thanks bai..that's actually a classic misconception.. that question has been raised and answered on this thread for numerous times already..
pero ayos ra..i hope you don't mind but mag post nalang ko ug link for you to check out

Do Catholics Worship Statues? | Catholic Answers

Do Catholics Pray in Vain Repetitions?

Did the Catholic Church Blend Paganism with Christianity?

Is Catholicism Pagan? | Catholic Answers (this link is best viewed with Chrome or Firefox)


Catholicism teaches to worship the Father, Son and Spirit the three persons in One divine being..
One God but in Three persons.. murag layo ra kaayo ang Zeus bai..hehehehe

i hope you'd effort reading through the links i have provided if you really seek answers coming from the Catholic perspective.

Yeah I know bai na nagtudlo ug trinity ang catholicism but my point is ang mga practices bai. Like feast sa mga patrons. It's purely paganism and I know the church knows this. It's not about being conservative naa man gani uban bai na magpadisco sa atubangan sa kapilya. God doesn't deserve that. God doesn't care who goes to church what He cares more about is unsa imung gianha sa church. The church should condemn aning disco2 bai atubangan sa gagmay na kapilya because instead of a day for God nang gitawag ninyong feast it becomes a day for drunkards, a day of sin. Which the bible is very specific about. Maybe mao na ang inyong reason which is I guess reasonable peru the church should be able to teach it's people properly of the real doctrine of christianity. Basing on how I observe it. It's as if people are making this statues as the body of the saints where maghikap2. i know it's faith but faith is more than anything sensual. One thing no one knows the real face of Jesus. We are very uncertain sa iyang hitsura maybe it's not necessary to reconstruct it. And with regards to mary she's already been worshiped.

[noy]

Yeah I know bai na nagtudlo ug trinity ang catholicism

so why the comparison with the Greek or Roman mythology gods?

but my point is ang mga practices bai. Like feast sa mga patrons. It's purely paganism and I know the church knows this.

do you have a definite proof that it's pagan? or just because pagans also have feasts for their gods and godesses and because of this similarity, came out a conclusion that someone must have copied from somebody..and since paganism pre dates Christianity, therefore Catholics adapted from paganism..plus the propagandas against Catholicism and conspiracy theories makes all of these things seemingly more realistic.
However, as per history.
"The system arose from the early Christian custom of annual commemoration of martyrs on the dates of their deaths, or birth into heaven, a date that is therefore referred to in Latin as their dies natalis ("day of birth"). " read more? Calendar of saints - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
even gani kita isip nasod.nag gahin ta ug adlaw para sa atong mga heroes..ug special events..same thing with Catholicism bai..mao naay adlaw para sa mga gitawag nato ug santos.

It's not about being conservative naa man gani uban bai na magpadisco sa atubangan sa kapilya.

now, why would you let the Church answer for something that she doesn't teach? as far as teachings are concerned, wala na gitudlo bai nga magpa disco sa kapilya..in fact the church teaches to keep the sacred things holy..which even streches to how we live our lives..

so kung naa kay gusto questionon..dili ang Church kung dili ang mga parokyano nga nagbuhat ana...PERO ang pangutana..kung i held ang celebration sa pista atubangan sa kapilya nagpamatuod ba na nga sala na jud dayun? depende man siguro na sa paagi sa pag celebrate, unsa ang gipangbuhat sa mga nagcelebrate..

God doesn't deserve that.

God deserves so much more perhaps.

God doesn't care who goes to church what He cares more about is unsa imung gianha sa church.

God rather wants us to understand why we go to church.

The church should condemn aning disco2 bai atubangan sa gagmay na kapilya because instead of a day for God nang gitawag ninyong feast it becomes a day for drunkards, a day of sin.

not necessarily a day of sin, there are those who really celebrate the feast in honor of a certain Christian who once lived their lives for Christ in an extraordinary fashion..or commonly known as a saint.

there are things to consider pud bai when it comes to these things,
sometimes man gud bai esp with small barangays who doesn't have a function hall or some sort. anha i held ang mga pundok2x ug diha pud mag celebrate kung pista..esp nga kasagarang kapilya naay gamay nga open space atubangan ana..so most likely kung naay mga sayaw2x or programa sa barangay..aw anha jud na diha dapita..

unsaon taman nga ang nahibaw.an nga pag celebrate sa mga kasagarang taw kay sayaw2x man..inum2x..mao niy ilang paagi sa pag lipay2x..
di lang pud nato sila i condemn as mga immoral or unsa because after all..wa ta kahibaw sa ilang kasing2x..ug unsay tumong sa ilang pag celebrate..
kita ka ug unsay sulod sa ilang kasing2x bai? do you know how they live their lives? No.

now it's different when people would get drunk and brawl or go crazy with lust during these times..i am not talking about these things..kay klaro man jud na nga sala..and yes, dili nato ma deny nga naa jud ning mga butanga..this is a sad truth..pero dili lang pud nato i generalize tanang mga parokyano.

what i'm referring to is just the celebration part..picture a group of mid to elderly folks..dancing to the tune of whatever, with their compadres and comares enjoying the food and drinks..with the rest of the people in barangay singing and dancing..mao ra na..

the church condemns sinful acts bai not the celebration.

personally, di ko agree anang magpa disco atubangan jud sa kapilyang gagmay 'cause i think naa jud unta nay proper venue para ana but i certainly wouldn't conclude that it's something sinful..
especially if mauyon sa mga circumstances.. like the example i gave above.

Which the bible is very specific about..

specific about drinking and dancing?
the bible have several verses wherein believers were having feasts with dancing, drinking and being merry..

perhaps you're referring to people who do sinful things because of too much drunkeness..well that's a different story..
of course the church is against these things just as how it is in scriptures.

Maybe mao na ang inyong reason which is I guess reasonable peru the church should be able to teach it's people properly of the real doctrine of christianity.

The Church teaches what Christianity is all about and how should we live our lives as christians pero way mabuhat ang simbahan kung ang mga myembro ani kay di mosunod sa pagtulon.an.God teaches us to love others as we love ourselves..pero way mabuhat ang Ginoo kung ato jud nang supakon because of our freewill..the Church teaches everything there is that needs to be taught isip usa ka Katoliko..pero naa ra jud na sa tao mismo bai.

Basing on how I observe it. It's as if people are making this statues as the body of the saints where maghikap2. i know it's faith but faith is more than anything sensual.

i personally don't do it but i don't have problems doing it either..
the correct term is veneration bai..
read more about veneration perhaps?
Saint Worship? | Catholic Answers

One thing no one knows the real face of Jesus. We are very uncertain sa iyang hitsura maybe it's not necessary to reconstruct it.

it's called depiction bai, maong depiction because it's not an actual portrait.. so naturally, di jud na moa ang actual nawng ni Jesus but it provides a close resemblance especially the attributes portrayed by the depiction.

these representations of Jesus help us visualize Jesus easier. say for example the cross where Jesus is nailed on it would enable us to remember what Christ has done for us whenever we see it..like when a Chrsitan sees a cross-shaped post and is reminded by his/her Lord's passion.

mao bitaw ingun ko sa imu to effort in reading the links i provided kay naa didto ang explanation regarding images and statues.reasons and their uses..again, here's the link Do Catholics Worship Statues? | Catholic Answers

And with regards to mary she's already been worshiped.

if you actually met someone who says he/she is Catholic and worships mary as a goddess then obviously that person is not following the Catholic Teaching.

on the same link i provided above: Saint Worship? | Catholic Answers you'll see why Catholicism does not teach Marian worship.

again, i hope you'll read through the links i've provided for you kay gusto man kaha ka makasabut sa Catholic perspective..

[R_Forster]

tua ra..mutuo ug evolution ug laws of nature pero wala naka recognize ug pattern.? ay nalang lagi brad..kay di gihapun ka ka gets..weeeee...LOL
kung gago ko..ikaw kay gaga! nyahahahaha! aw unsa ba...hehehe

sige na next question na ta guys..

Hahahaha Pataka na sad o, Buot buot kang bugoa ka, Kung makig-istorya ka sa isa ka scientist anang "Pattern of Creation" nimo, kataw.an ra kang buanga ka.

gagong bugo buot buot ka ha. hahahah! Niabot na sa cosmos ang buot buot nimo hahahahahaha! Roman History pa lang gani IGNORANTE na kaayo ka Cosmos pa kaya hahahahahah! PATTERN! wahhahaha!

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Mao to dli nako malimtan kay atheist bya cya nya motoo ug heaven ingon pa cya "kinsa goi dli ganahan malangit?" hahahaha

Mao rani nagdalag hugaw sa mga ngalan sa mga atheist dre.
Mga kaila nako nga Atheist dre sa istorya like marius, kit, ug uban pa kay kaantigo man mo respeto ug opinion sa uban, mga bootan ug wlay samok. Kani ra jud cya kay ang tinood dli man na cya atheist, ganahan lang jud cya tagdon. Basaha balik iyang mga post dba patagad ra kaau. peace.

Naa na puy BUGO diri o

R.Forster, Fortser, ug R_Forster ra akong accounts diri, kung wala kay ebidensiya anang mga claim nimo magpa bilin ra nang figment of imagination murag kanang Jesus ug God ninyo FIGMENT OF IMAGINATION RA.

Bulok, Tanga, Uto uto ka na Kristiyano.