Sona 2014

[M.A.D.]

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Thanks for flattering me, if I myself and by myself alone drove them away then how much for for these other folks who are obviously more informed than me. Apparently reading some of the posts here of those who makes sense I concede they do better than ME hahahahahahaha. -end-

Keep it up kid.

They were probably fed-up with the singularity of your perception about things that are currently happening. Since they know better than you, they rather keep in silence than engaging to an ignorant yet arrogant arguments.
They don't bother replying knowing that none of their replies will sink in to a closed-minded opponents.
There is no sense to argue at all, if you refer the facts to what has been published and considered logical if it goes along with mainstream of your belief.
Or probably they've got your ideals and makes no sense to further the discussion because of redundancy.

Keep lurking until an unsuspecting drop-by member pin an interesting post with a little bit complicated thoughts and take him/her as a prey by your streamlined arguments.

note: yous were a plural you

[emberjim]

Ciao... Whine Boys

[unswa]

For DAP, I may not able to present ALL EVIDENCES presented to the court as I do not have the authority to acquire such, yet there were other sources like news and media as well as opinions of the Supreme Court justices you can read and understand.



Majority of the votes does not came from vote-buying but rather from FALSE PROMISES.



I don't think its a passive admission of error. He still defended DAP in his SONA and likewise filed a Motion for Reconsideration. Now, this is like he does not have any option but to upheld the rule of law inorder not to suspend the projects funded by DAP.

Then everyone must be fooling themselves by believing in these FALSE PROMISES. If it's TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE then...

[unswa]

anti intellectual also mean - a habit of mind and mode of discourse which would deny the legitimacy of an alternative point of view, where rather than winning the argument [they] exclude their antagonists from the argument’.

Big example here ... Nefarian -- suppressing freedom of speech, against protest, dictatorship mindset, maayo manaway but siya diay cant practice what he preach... and now the anti-intellectual got banned.

between "too much thinking and emotionally cold" is something much positive than "not much thinking and being emo" .

LOL wala pajud mo ka getover niya brader?

Freedom of speech - I fully support this. Point me asa dapita nga ni suppress ko ug freedom of speech. Remember I AM NOT A MOD TO JUST BAN YOU. I got banned because of TOO MUCH FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Protest MAYBE if it is reasonable and tips the balance scale. If bukot2x lang pagpuyo mo ga samok2x ramo. BAYAN MUNA? I just want to tell you that I FULLY SUPPORT PROTEST on the street if it's as BIG as the PORK BARREL SCAM. It is NO ordinary scam,it is a SYSTEMIC STEALING OF OUR TAXES BY LAWMAKERS. I have written a letter in my FB timeline to all my friends to join the "Million March". Here's my letter to DEFUNCT your assumption that I am an ANTI-PROTEST person

Mga personal nakong nakaila diri sa facebook mihangyo kaninyo mga matinud-anong lungsuranon sa Pilipinas na suportahan ang kalihokan karon Lunes bahin aning pagwagtang sa pork barrel. Ug kamo tinood nagpakabana ani na isyu walay manggawas na alibay sa inyong mga baba sama sa tungod mahadlok mog traffic dili nalang mo modayon pero ug ting Sinulog bahalag mauwanan basta makalaag lang. Ug boot huna-hunaon sayon rajud ni buhaton kay dili ni pareha sauna nga ato pang ibutang sa peligro atong kinabuhi aron ipagawas atong pagkadismaya sa gobyerno. Dili mga tanke atong kasugat karon kundi mga ordinaryong tawo sama nato nga kamao magpakabana ug nagatoo nga naa pay gamay na paglaom ning atong gipangga na nasod. Dili ko mapulitiko na tawo kay kadaghan nako nagpakabuta bungol aning mga iskandal sa atoa ron kay para nako mag hasol2x lang na sa akong utok. Ug sa inglis pa NUMB nako aning klaseng isyu pero lahi karon kay kung imo lang jud ukayon hangtod maabot nimo ang gamot, masabtan nimo na ang kontra nato dili lang usa ka tawo kundi usa ka organisasyon na pwerting lawma dili na matungkad. Ug naa pay mas ubos sa demonyo mao na sila karon.

Kontra nato halos tanan naa sa kongreso or basin tanan jud, kontra nato tanan naa sa senado except nalang siguro ni Lacson para nako, daghan pud tag kontra diri sa executive department pero dili pako sigurado kinsa ni silang mga tawhana ang oras ray gipaabot nato aron mabulgar ni sila, kontra nato ning ubang dagkong pribadong kompanya sama aning ubang news agency na gisumpo ang kamatooran kay lagi parte sa dynasty. Pasalamat ta kay naa jud uban organisasyon na maski nabutang sa peligro ilang kinabuhi ilaha gihapon gibuhat unsay sakto ang pagpahibaw sa katawhan na giunsa ta giilad sa mga tawo na atong gisaligan, ug kining ubang pribadong indibidwal na kasabwat aning modus.

Ang pangutana karon kinsa naman lang atong toohan? Motoo paba kaha mo aning mga resulta sa kaso pohon ug pananglitan mapasakaan ug mga kaso ning mga sad-an? Ok ra unta ug guilty ang verdict pero kining mga na abswelto tungod lagi sikat, gamhanan, ug daghang kwarta? Lisod kaayo ni tubagon karon mao ng kinahanglan jud kita mosalmot aning kalihokan ug dli nato ni undangan ug dili mga priso ang tanan responsable aning pagtunob sa atong pagkataw.

Ug kamo dili jud maka adto, ang pinakagamay na inyong mabuhat kay ang pag sibya dito sa inyong mga kaila nga walay akses aning internet bahin aning kalihukan sa paglambo.

"Ang rason nganong naay korupsyon sa atoa dili tungod sa kwarta kundi tungod wala sila 'y gugma sa ilang yutang natawhan"

DICTATOR MINDSET - YES, because the gates of our salvation are guarded by wolves and pigs. How can we move to a better position if the only way is blocked? Important bills like FOI, Anti-dynasty remains in the dust. Our salvation is not within our reach if these wolves/pigs remain in power. I strive for something BIG and LONG-TERM. If it involves selling my soul to the devil then so be it. Strong words eh!


Hmmm did I tell you to do this and that? I don't remember telling you that Just like you, I voiced my opinion and got banned because someone's e-p***s got hurt.

[æRLO]

these one refers to a single-mindedness, a way of thinking that runs within the scope of belief "denying" the "legitimacy of an alternative point of view"(your word). A negative connotation of being "intellectuals". I have no problem dealing with the intellect provided it doesn't fall to the negative category of it. Meaning open-minded na mga tao, the reason I have been asking people here to open up if you want a better discussion. I have failed.



If you really believe that the thoughts we partake here in this forum does not validate itself on your line of thinking. Then it only shows you were not open minded and single-mindedly programmed to just harass the government.

Being emotional is an indicative that you are interacting with a person, the reason why I keep replying to your post because I consider you as a person, an emotional person. Besides issued here is too delicate that requires emotions and personal experiences to find the resolution for the said issues... So don't act like you were emotionless computers that inputs words after words and more technical words but doesn't process practical applications that of a common individual with human emotions understand or can be handled and probably cared about.
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There is no argument when you believe what the other party believe. >I believe in your cause, but not how you do it.
Argument is useless to a closed-minded opponent, it is so tiring. >Try to process alternative views and weight things out.
There is no sense going to an argument, at all. Especially when it comes to something very technical that even those who practice the said area have a difficulty about it.

I hate copy-pasting thing, that makes me not me.

It becomes tiring when it stands on shaky foundations.

Do you actually consider yourself an "open-minded" person? You're not. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. If you accuse us of narrow-mindedness, then that already makes you narrow-minded for branding people as such. Whereas an open-minded person would actually rationalize the other party's argument.

[M.A.D.]

I think the noytards have decided to change strategy. They have suffered multiple tactical blunders their only viable strategy is this:

[Dorothea]

all I wanna know is -- ning lagpot lagpot ba ang laway ni PNoy during his speech?

[æRLO]

all I wanna know is -- ning lagpot lagpot ba ang laway ni PNoy during his speech?

ni drool ra siguro, wa ning lagput.

[emberjim]

It becomes tiring when it stands on shaky foundations.

Do you actually consider yourself an "open-minded" person? You're not. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. If you accuse us of narrow-mindedness, then that already makes you narrow-minded for branding people as such. Whereas an open-minded person would actually rationalize the other party's argument.

Well considering the fact that I give credit to what you were saying, I would say I am an open-minded person. You know what your problem is? You were "too" proud to agree or even just to consider things afar from what you have. You were "too" certain that what you were saying is the absolute fact, well it's not. Based in a first person's perspective, that is not what my eyes see.

I did not accused anybody of being narrow-minded instead I ask you to open-up. Closed-minded people is far more smarter than the narrow-minded, it's just that they tend not to get out of a particular scope if they already had something in hand. The inability to adapt changes and rather stick to what is constant.

You know what, you already made your point and a fixed stand in a particular issue, and most of it were facts that we common people in some degree share that common belief. What is the point arguing to something you accepted as fact, how can you rationalized an argument when you are attacking what you also consider true. Can you do that? because I can't. What I am offering to start with is to do something for ourselves (it may not be applicable to you because you were too filthy rich) but people out there need to wake up from a delusion of perfect world because of a political slogan "Tuwid na Daan". If you don't feel it is happening soon then might as well do something relevant rather than whine and whine and whine and ask other people to whine.

[Jhared]

Your advocacy is your cause, your accomplishments is yours to keep, your job is your business not mine, knowing you people is not of my interest, I don't find any connection why you cited it somehow with importance. As if your life revolve only in this forum.

I am not joking when I posted my own view, I have my own personal advocacy. And that is to make some noise as a wake up call to all the people who will care to read what I posted with the main theme. "Lihok tao aron mo molambo, dili sige ug reklamo sa gobyerno kay wala nay kaayohang mahimo kung dili gubot sa inyong pangutok." Complaining, expressing is what your ancestors did to no avail, and here we are doing what they've been doing years ago and still to no avail. Busa lihok, dili lihok kay mag-rally, lihok kay mo-trabaho para makakuarta di magtinapulan ug magsalig sa pasalig sa pulitiko..para ni sa kadaghanan na tapulan, kung dili ka tapulan wa kay apil, didto ka sa lain category sa akoa sad lain na advocacy with a theme "Help people to understand that violence will only cause chaos"... if you find it as a joke, then to you it's a joke....LOL..

so true.. the last time i came in this section was during the Yolanda aftermath, and i was bullied for telling people to do something about the problem rather than sit and whine.. tsk..