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  1. #8631

    Lingaw kaayu ning Uban ngari...

    First - Mu ingun nga ang Tibuok BIBLIYA Fiction ug Dili FACTS.

    Nya if naay maka Present ug Scientific Facts nga nag prove nga Naay mga sinuwat sa bibliya nga tinuod nahitabo...

    Second, mao nsad ni ang tuno - Si Jesus Christ did not Exist and only a FICTION nasad.

    Nya if naay maka present ug Facts nga according to some Archeologist or Scientist, Reference of Jesus Christ Existed..

    Third, mu ingun nsad - Ni exist si Jesus Chirst PERO dili tinuod iyang mga Milagro

  2. #8632
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Scientific and archeological evidence indicate that Reference of Jesus Existed before... so Your WRONG..
    "You're" dili "Your" so you're wrong. hahaha

    Anyway, unverified and possibly tampered documents ra ang mapakita sa mga kristiyanong scholars na naay "Jesus Christ" sa una, Dili pud siya pwede matawag na scientifically verified kay dako ug chance na gipang forge ra ang mga documents na nag mention ug "Jesus Christ" and to add to that walay physical evidence ang mga kristiyano na na link kay "Jesus Christ", so pareha ra gihapon na si "Jesus" sa mga "Ancient Aliens" still unverified and unproven until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    haha! nagdumot ka bai? Lol

    i was a religion and religious hater from early adolescence to my early twenties. i didn't grew up in a religious Home. i never had religious instructions nor read the bible until i was in college tungod ra pud sa REED..and a whole lot more of other things you do not know about me..
    so how in the world have i been brainwashed since childhood when i didn't have a religion to get brainwashed from to begin with?
    Aw mao ba bai, mas worst pa diay ang nahitabu sa imuha, kay opposite imung growth imbis while maniguwang ka magka bright ug mas aware ka sa kalibutan ug mas mu daku pa imung critical thinking, opposite ang nahitabu sa imuha kay naniguwang ka mas dali ka na uto. tsk tsk tsk. condolence to you bai. hahaha

  3. #8633
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Lingaw kaayu ning Uban ngari...

    First - Mu ingun nga ang Tibuok BIBLIYA Fiction ug Dili FACTS.

    Nya if naay maka Present ug Scientific Facts nga nag prove nga Naay mga sinuwat sa bibliya nga tinuod nahitabo...

    Second, mao nsad ni ang tuno - Si Jesus Christ did not Exist and only a FICTION nasad.

    Nya if naay maka present ug Facts nga according to some Archeologist or Scientist, Reference of Jesus Christ Existed..

    Third, mu ingun nsad - Ni exist si Jesus Chirst PERO dili tinuod iyang mga Milagro
    Sorry to break it down to bai pero walay irrefutable evidence ang mga kristiyano na magpa tunay beyond reasonable doubt na naay "Jesus Christ" puros ra mga papeles na dako ug chance na gipang forge ra. Dili na siya pwedeng ma tawag na "Scientific" evidence, maski physical evidence ni "Jesus Christ" wala jud.

  4. #8634
    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    "You're" dili "Your" so you're wrong. hahaha
    Grammar Police

    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    Anyway, unverified and possibly tampered documents ra ang mapakita sa mga kristiyanong scholars na naay "Jesus Christ" sa una, Dili pud siya pwede matawag na scientifically verified kay dako ug chance na gipang forge ra ang mga documents na nag mention ug "Jesus Christ" and to add to that walay physical evidence ang mga kristiyano na na link kay "Jesus Christ", so pareha ra gihapon na si "Jesus" sa mga "Ancient Aliens" still unverified and unproven until now.
    The Proof of Jesus is Not only Based on Document.

    The Proof of the Reference of Jesus are based from the Research of Archeologist Not Priest or Pastors. The Findings are already published in some Well respected scientific community and media Outfit. so WRONG again..

    sample:

    A team of scientists led by renowned French marine archaeologist Franck Goddio recently announced that they have found a bowl, dating to between the late 2nd century B.C. and the early 1st century A.D., that is engraved with what they believe could be the world's first known reference to Christ. ...
    -Discovery News published in NBCNEWS website..

    Here's another Publication from Institute of Creation Research:
    ...
    The new artifact is an ossuary, a medium-sized box in which human bones were placed for permanent burial after the flesh had all decayed away. This practice was employed for only a brief period of time from about B.C. 20 to A.D. 70. The box is made of a soft, chalky, limestone, common to the area. The contents have long since vanished.

    Most remarkably, an inscription has been etched into the side which reads, "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" in the Aramaic script of the time. Careful studies, including scrutiny under a scanning electron microscope show the inscription to be genuine. The patina, or oxidized surface equally covers both box and the interior of the etched letters. The recognized expert on such matters, Dr. Andre Lemaire, concludes: "I am pleased to report that in my judgment it is genuinely ancient and not a fake."
    ...

    If Coming from People with PHD and Archeologist - i dont think you are Qualified to say "Its unverified and possibly tampered"

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    Sorry to break it down to bai pero walay irrefutable evidence ang mga kristiyano na magpa tunay beyond reasonable doubt na naay "Jesus Christ" puros ra mga papeles na dako ug chance na gipang forge ra. Dili na siya pwedeng ma tawag na "Scientific" evidence, maski physical evidence ni "Jesus Christ" wala jud.
    See Sample Above...

    Those data came from People with PHD and Published in Some Biggest name in Media Industry. The Evidence came from PEOPLE in Scientific Community. And they are NOT only documents, They Have ARTIFACTS..

    We let the Scientific Community Break it down to you...

  5. #8635
    Quote Originally Posted by R.Forster View Post
    "You're" dili "Your" so you're wrong. hahaha

    Anyway, unverified and possibly tampered documents ra ang mapakita sa mga kristiyanong scholars na naay "Jesus Christ" sa una, Dili pud siya pwede matawag na scientifically verified kay dako ug chance na gipang forge ra ang mga documents na nag mention ug "Jesus Christ" and to add to that walay physical evidence ang mga kristiyano na na link kay "Jesus Christ", so pareha ra gihapon na si "Jesus" sa mga "Ancient Aliens" still unverified and unproven until now.

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    Aw mao ba bai, mas worst pa diay ang nahitabu sa imuha, kay opposite imung growth imbis while maniguwang ka magka bright ug mas aware ka sa kalibutan ug mas mu daku pa imung critical thinking, opposite ang nahitabu sa imuha kay naniguwang ka mas dali ka na uto. tsk tsk tsk. condolence to you bai. hahaha

    hahaha whatever bai, so bugo nang mutuo ug Ginoo and Religion?
    let's say...bugo si Gregor Mendel A.K.A the Father of Genetics..Lol
    i would've ask you to prove your claim but aside that it's OT.. wa ra gihapun kay argument nga tarong..puros ra binata..haha

    next question please?
    Last edited by noy; 07-30-2014 at 05:32 PM.

  6. #8636
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    ok, if you insist..

    theologically, for the forgiveness of our sins as the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
    politically, although possibly reluctant, Pilate had to give in with the crowd's request when the Jewish high priests reminded Pilate the Jesus' claim as King violates The Imperial cult of ancient Rome.
    Religiously, because the Jews believed that Jesus had broken several mosaic laws..the highest of which would be blasphemy.
    our sins? sins of the world? asa man, before his crucifiction? during? right after? or future? or all of the above?

  7. #8637
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    our sins? sins of the world? asa man, before his crucifiction? during? right after? or future? or all of the above?
    All of the above jovs.

  8. #8638
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    hahaha whatever bai, so bugo nang mutuo ug Ginoo and Religion?
    let's say...bugo si Gregor Mendel A.K.A the Father of Genetics..Lol
    i would've ask you to prove your claim but aside that it's OT.. wa ra gihapun kay argument nga tarong..puros ra binata..haha

    next question please?
    OT

    Ug Bogo tos Mendel - Unsa nlan kaha tah ani... level negative 100 sa Intelligence..

  9. #8639
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    hahaha whatever bai, so bugo nang mutuo ug Ginoo and Religion?
    let's say...bugo si Gregor Mendel A.K.A the Father of Genetics..Lol
    i would've ask you to prove your claim but aside that it's OT.. wa ra gihapun kay pnga tarong..puros ra binata..haha


    next question please?
    Next question? naa diay koy question? Binisaya na gani na akong post dili gihapon ka maka differentiate unsa nang "question", grabe you have the worst reading comprehension of all people that I've talked to.


    Ug usa pa, wala koy balak mangutana nimo especially about sa science, kay mura na sad kog nangutana ug about sa science sa isa ka trisikad driver.

  10. #8640
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Grammar Police


    The Proof of Jesus is Not only Based on Document.

    The Proof of the Reference of Jesus are based from the Research of Archeologist Not Priest or Pastors. The Findings are already published in some Well respected scientific community and media Outfit. so WRONG again..

    sample:

    A team of scientists led by renowned French marine archaeologist Franck Goddio recently announced that they have found a bowl, dating to between the late 2nd century B.C. and the early 1st century A.D., that is engraved with what they believe could be the world's first known reference to Christ. ...
    -Discovery News published in NBCNEWS website..

    Here's another Publication from Institute of Creation Research:
    ...
    The new artifact is an ossuary, a medium-sized box in which human bones were placed for permanent burial after the flesh had all decayed away. This practice was employed for only a brief period of time from about B.C. 20 to A.D. 70. The box is made of a soft, chalky, limestone, common to the area. The contents have long since vanished.

    Most remarkably, an inscription has been etched into the side which reads, "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" in the Aramaic script of the time. Careful studies, including scrutiny under a scanning electron microscope show the inscription to be genuine. The patina, or oxidized surface equally covers both box and the interior of the etched letters. The recognized expert on such matters, Dr. Andre Lemaire, concludes: "I am pleased to report that in my judgment it is genuinely ancient and not a fake."
    ...

    If Coming from People with PHD and Archeologist - i dont think you are Qualified to say "Its unverified and possibly tampered"

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    See Sample Above...

    Those data came from People with PHD and Published in Some Biggest name in Media Industry. The Evidence came from PEOPLE in Scientific Community. And they are NOT only documents, They Have ARTIFACTS..

    We let the Scientific Community Break it down to you...
    Dili gihapon na irrefutable evidence nang gipang post nimo, like the bowl:

    While not discounting the Jesus Christ interpretation, other researchers have offered different possible interpretations for the engraving, which was made on the thin-walled ceramic bowl after it was fired, since slip was removed during the process.

    Bert Smith, a professor of classical archaeology and art at Oxford University, suggests the engraving might be a dedication, or present, made by a certain "Chrestos" belonging to a possible religious association called Ogoistais.

    Klaus Hallof, director of the Institute of Greek inscriptions at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy, added that if Smith's interpretation proves valid, the word "Ogoistais" could then be connected to known religious groups that worshipped early Greek and Egyptian gods and goddesses, such as Hermes, Athena and Isis.
    Nga Nga gihapon ka?

    And dugay na kabalo ang scientifc community na gi peke ra tong "James Ossuary" which contained the words ""James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus""

    Authenticity of the inscription has been challenged. The Israeli Antiquities Authority (IAA) determined in 2003 that the inscriptions were forged at a much later date. In December 2004, Oded Golan was charged with 44 counts of forgery, fraud and deception, including forgery of the Ossuary inscription.
    Nga Nga gihapon?

    Gi gamit pa ninyo ang pangalan sa Scientific Community sa inyung mga kamangmangan.

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