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  1. #8611

    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Unsay view sa RC regarding euthanasia?
    from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

    Euthanasia

    2276 Those whose lives are diminished or weakened deserve special respect. Sick or handicapped persons should be helped to lead lives as normal as possible.

    2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.

    Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.

    2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of "over-zealous" treatment. Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected.

    2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.

    Catechism of the Catholic Church - The fifth commandment
    Last edited by noy; 07-29-2014 at 12:45 PM.

  2. #8612
    Ah ok, kanang cases sa hospital or houses nga naay DNR or do not resuscitate nga pinirmahan sa pasyente? nihilak man gud 2 akong amiga nurse kai namatay sa iyang atubangan ang pasyente.

  3. #8613
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Ah ok, kanang cases sa hospital or houses nga naay DNR or do not resuscitate nga pinirmahan sa pasyente? nihilak man gud 2 akong amiga nurse kai namatay sa iyang atubangan ang pasyente.
    sorry to hear that bai..
    i think mu fall under na sa paragraph 2278.

  4. #8614
    Why Jesus was crucified?

  5. #8615
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Unsay view sa RC regarding euthanasia?
    apparently immoral... they would rather see a terminally ill suffer for months or years. because apparently watching a human being waste away in pain is more moral. LOLS.

  6. #8616
    Quote Originally Posted by battouter View Post
    apparently immoral... they would rather see a terminally ill suffer for months or years. because apparently watching a human being waste away in pain is more moral. LOLS.
    catechism of the catholic chruch

    2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Why Jesus was crucified?
    murag kahibaw naman ka sa tubag ani jovs? unless you're scheming for a debate. this is not the place.

  7. #8617
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    catechism of the catholic chruch

    2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.
    am i missing something from that quote? so aside from prolonging the agony of a dying person, they want you to spend MORE money for "palliative care" and "painkillers" on a dying person? LOL.

  8. #8618
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    murag kahibaw naman ka sa tubag ani jovs? unless you're scheming for a debate. this is not the place.
    i know very well about this thread, so no plan of debating here. sorry wala ko kabalo unsa imong tubag. so pls answer.

    Why Jesus was crucified?

  9. #8619
    Quote Originally Posted by battouter View Post
    am i missing something from that quote? so aside from prolonging the agony of a dying person, they want you to spend MORE money for "palliative care" and "painkillers" on a dying person? LOL.
    if you see it that way, the point really is this Life is not our own and we only die kung kuhaon na ta sa Ginoo..we suffer if God allows us to suffer be it for our indulgence or those people around us..or for whatever purpose God would see fit..
    so as long as we're still breathing then we ought to breathe.

  10. #8620
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    i know very well about this thread, so no plan of debating here. sorry wala ko kabalo unsa imong tubag. so pls answer.

    Why Jesus was crucified?
    ok, if you insist..

    theologically, for the forgiveness of our sins as the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
    politically, although possibly reluctant, Pilate had to give in with the crowd's request when the Jewish high priests reminded Pilate the Jesus' claim as King violates The Imperial cult of ancient Rome.
    Religiously, because the Jews believed that Jesus had broken several mosaic laws..the highest of which would be blasphemy.

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