The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[slabdans]

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@slabdans kanang dili misahan ang naghikog o kanang namatay misahan, it's man's tradition bro, wala sa bible. and you are right bro when you say that God is the one to know where your soul is going, kita wala ta kabalo sa kahimtang sa usa ka tawo. kay physical ra man atong makit.an. TGod looks at the heart that's why He is the only one who knows our destination. To anyone who say's ikaw mu.adto ka sa impyerno, ikaw muadto ka sa langit, or if pangadyean nimu sya muadto sya sa langit, nakapatay sya muadto sya sa impyerno, is equating himself/herself to God.

unya kato si Judas nag hikog man to..,unsay mahitabo niya? what if wala padayona ni Judas ang pagtugot kang jesus ngadto sa mga kamot sa mga Jews? maunsa kaha ta ron? hehehe

[hegugmaa ko beh]

kaayohan??

kana inyung mga hell threats maayo na??

sige mog suroy2x, sige hisgot og impyerno..

"tuo na lang mo ni galactic hitler para maluwas mo"

pagka immoral...

mura mn kag bata doh mo storya. pataka ug yawit o..
klaru kaayo bitter sa life. wa siguroy managad nemu sa?

immoral daw. patagad..

mods paki banned daan.tnx!

[sirspeak]

To be honest bro, I really don't know what would happen, I could hypothesize pero, it still a guess no matter how educated it would sound. Now this is what separates us between God. Jesus said to his disciples when they ask about restoring the kingdom of Israel, ana si Jesus sa Acts 1:7 "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. And also long way back pa gyud God talked to Moses and told Moses that Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

So me personally I would just ask God about that, if I meet Him face 2 face.

[noy]

Bro, I just want to beg to disagree, its not our works that we are saved it is by grace bro it is a gift, that what Ephesians 2:8-9 states. Kay for me, if it is by our own works, then how are we judged by God according to this? In James niingon, if anyone breaks a single commandment he broke it all, and Romans For all have sinned and fall short. Tapos gi.add pagyud sa Romans, nga the wages of sin is death. If works nato ang basihan then no one deserves heaven kay tanan makasasala. that's wyh Eph. clearly states, For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.
So if it is a gift, how can we receive it? Roman has also the answer
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

God bless bros.

hi bro, there is a thread that specifically discuss about this subject.
https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...works-too.html

by the way the Catholic Church believes that Salvation only comes from God through Christ but perhaps a little different with how most evangelical/protestant Christians understand this Truth that we share as Christians.

personally i agree with everything you've said just not with the idea you are trying to impose.

kanang dili misahan ang naghikog o kanang namatay misahan, it's man's tradition bro, wala sa bible..

misahan ang namatay is simply praying for the souls of the departed.
because the Catholic church believes that there is a state of suffering and forgiveness after Death. this belief or teaching however is still coming from the scripture and is strongly supported by history through the writings of early Christians in apostolic times.
for your reference..
Scripture Catholic - PURGATORY

To anyone who say's ikaw mu.adto ka sa impyerno, ikaw muadto ka sa langit, or if pangadyean nimu sya muadto sya sa langit, nakapatay sya muadto sya sa impyerno, is equating himself/herself to God.

i'm afraid you misunderstood bro.
the Church does not declare nor teaches that the prayers we say for the departed will change God's judgment when we urge our fellow Catholics to pray for the departed souls as how judgment would fall upon a certain soul is between that soul and God.. we are merely doing what we are suppose to do that is to pray for one another's salvation.

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Who started the belief expansion of our religion?

Christ did.

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,"
Matthew 28:19

Catholic ko... pero I am also a "Theist"... opposite mi of what a "Atheist" is....

bro, anyone who is a professing Catholic is a Theist. or simply anyone who believes in a deity regardless of religious views would be considered a Theist.
so when you say you're Catholic and should that mean not only by baptismal rites but most especially by Faith then of course that means you are a Theist. hehe

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@noy.. Assuming na tinood ni siya na statement pero kon di na sya tinood disregard lang ni na question. asa sa mga gihimo sa Ginoo ang tiwason sa mga pari?

bai Nap, i hope you don't mind but i'd rather have you read this link kay mas detailed ang explanation.

The Forgiveness of Sins | Catholic Answers

"As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained"
John 20:21–23

[NapoleonBlownapart]

bai Nap, i hope you don't mind but i'd rather have you read this link kay mas detailed ang explanation.

The Forgiveness of Sins | Catholic Answers

"As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained"
John 20:21–23

Wa nako gibasa tanan noy kay taas kaayo.. anyway wa man sad ko nangita ug details ani na question.. nag skim ra ko sa article.. buot ba ipasabot na ang gibuhat sa Ginoo nga tiwason sa pari ang pag pasaylo sa sala?

[noy]

Wa nako gibasa tanan noy kay taas kaayo.. anyway wa man sad ko nangita ug details ani na question.. nag skim ra ko sa article.. buot ba ipasabot na ang gibuhat sa Ginoo nga tiwason sa pari ang pag pasaylo sa sala?

hehe. first part pa lang daan sa article bai kay gitubag na imung pangutana..
"All pardon for sins ultimately comes from Christ’s finished work on Calvary."

so wala gipadayun sa mga pari ang kaluwasan ug kapasayloan sa sala sa Ginoo kay humana man ngadto sa cross tanan..
instead Jesus instituted a way for us to receive His "salvation on the cross" through baptism and reconciliation.

ug ang iyang mga apostoles maoy iyang gitugonan nga magbuhat aning mga butanga samtang Siya mubalik sa Amahan..
paghuman iyang gihuyopan ang mga apostoles isip pag ordina para maka tagamtam ug atoridad in the name of the Father,Son and the Holy Spirit..of course the disciples did the same thing to their succesors..hangtud naabut sa atong panahon karon..

[NapoleonBlownapart]

hehe. first part pa lang daan sa article bai kay gitubag na imung pangutana..
"All pardon for sins ultimately comes from Christ’s finished work on Calvary."

so wala gipadayun sa mga pari ang kaluwasan ug kapasayloan sa sala sa Ginoo kay humana man ngadto sa cross tanan..
instead Jesus instituted a way for us to receive His "salvation on the cross" through baptism and reconciliation.

ug ang iyang mga apostoles maoy iyang gitugonan nga magbuhat aning mga butanga samtang Siya mubalik sa Amahan..
paghuman iyang gihuyopan ang mga apostoles isip pag ordina para maka tagamtam ug atoridad in the name of the Father,Son and the Holy Spirit..of course the disciples did the same thing to their succesors..hangtud naabut sa atong panahon karon..

So unsa may tubag sa akong original question? hehe

[woga]

bro, anyone who is a professing Catholic is a Theist. or simply anyone who believes in a deity regardless of religious views would be considered a Theist.
so when you say you're Catholic and should that mean not only by baptismal rites but most especially by Faith then of course that means you are a Theist. hehe

My Faith is not bounded by God itself or any gods... There is just more to it than believing... and the bible to me is just another story book and another source of possible facts. It may be holy, but holy to me means it is just as important as living a life and not associated with any religion but is needed not to be ignored...

[noy]

So unsa may tubag sa akong original question? hehe

hahaha! i believe i've already answered your question bai..
unless naa diay kay laing pasabut sa "gipadayun". so can you instead share how you understand "gipadayun"?

kay akong pagsabut sa "gipadayun"
kay ipadayun ang trabaho sa Ginoo para sa pagpasaylo ug kaluwasan..ang tubag kay wala namay angay ipadayun..kay humana man ngadto sa cross..

kanang baptismo ug kompisal dili na pagpadayon sa finished work sa Ginoo ngadto sa cross kung dili mao nay paagi nga gipadayag ni Kristo para ma claim ang salvation nga iyang gibuhat para sa tibuok kalibutan under usual circumstances.
usual circumstances because there are things about salvation and forgiveness of sins that only God would know..
so kung naa siyay luwason ug sala nga pasayloon outside the process that has been revealed to us..
Iyaha na na..wa na tay alam ana..

[noy]

My Faith is not bounded by God itself or any gods... There is just more to it than believing... and the bible to me is just another story book and another source of possible facts. It may be holy, but holy to me means it is just as important as living a life and not associated with any religion but is needed not to be ignored...

haha! wa koy problema bro ug unsay imung baroganan...imoha man pud na..ug mao nay imung panahom..aw imoha na..
however this points out that you are not entirely Catholic if your Faith is not bounded by God..plus the bible is just another story book?..hehehe..this even points out that you have doubts about Christianity...

being a catholic does not only stop with our baptismal rites i think..just like one cannot consider himself a Christian if he does not believe in the bible..hehehe
but like i said, imoha pud na..

ako lang gi klaro imung giingun nga "you are a catholic and you are also a theist.."
naturally, when one says he/she is catholic...it means mutuo siya ug Ginoo..
therefore theist siya..hahaha...
being a Catholic and a Theist are inseperable..

so by what you said, you are a catholic and also a theist..alangan naman pud ug catholic ka unya atheist..hehehe...

OT na ta bro..do you still have questions regarding RCC teachings and doctrines?