Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[Arteezy]

talking snake sa imung mata?
wa kailang Gregor Mendel ai..hahaha! Lol (klaro kaayo mag google ni ug dali2x run) hahaha!

di ko parehas nimo nga mag google basta di katubag sa akong mga pangutana.

bisan kinsa pa imong e-mention, bisan kang newton pa ka magpalaban, wa effect na kay pareha man na silang tanang nga di maka-prove nga naay ginoo..

mas una pa ko nakabalo nimo anang theistic evolution... theistic evolutionist man gani ko kadtong high school pa ko... unya pag hiling, di man magkasinabot ning bible og science... bulok man ning bible.. mag storya2x ang bitin, mura man og cartoons sa TV..

[slabdans]

di ko parehas nimo nga mag google basta di katubag sa akong mga pangutana.

puros raman gani ka copy paste ug idea. wala gyud kay imo, liman ka mag post nalang ka sa express yourself thread copy paste gihapon nga quote, or copy paste nga lyrics
sample :

why do you fight religion?? why not stay at home instead??


"i enjoy fighting this ultimate wickedness and ultimate stupidity"

- hitchens

[shibayoy]

faith bai. everything will come along

[Jhared]

naay purpose bai oi. wherever we turn, naa jud nay purpose. ultimo pagpangalot sa atong lubot kay naa man ganiy purpose..hehehe..
kinabuhi pa kaha? you exist because of many factors..therefore naay purpose..daghan man gani kaayo hehe
would you buy something for no reason at all? diba dili jud..

natural ra na sa tao bai ang mu seek ug purpose ug meaning, pero dili man tanan kay na depressed.. kadto rang mga tao who realize that living and existing are not at all the same yet doesn't know where to turn. one doesn't have to be a theist to go face this kind of dilemma though.

ang mystery diha bai is why people are seemingly designed to seek for eternal things despite of the fact that all we know is fading.

i think you know what i meant by meaning and purpose., you sound like your trolling around, the last thing you want to do is to sound like slabdans..

of course there is a purpose nganong nagpakabuhi ta aning kalibutana if you mean by purpose as the kind nga kanang purpose nga manghingugmo ta.. purpose nganong mo trabaho ta, purpose nganong mopalit ta, purpose nganong matulog ta.. common sense will tell you that c'mon..

but when we are talking about purpose nganong nabuhi ta, or meaning sa atong kinabuhi,.. that's another thing entirely,. in this case i will just narrow it down to a mere opinion 'coz i think it's futile arguing about it., i am in the opinion that a definite purpose and meaning does not exist, if it does, it is not written in the stars,. a psychologist have a better explanation of why this is so, but i will just give you my own layman's explanation..

Ex: atong kurso, as a child we always dreamed of healing people, therefore some of us mag doctor,. ang uban makakita ug salida anang aeroplano2 mag pilot nig dako.. and they become happy... now problem is since money is always the problem,. dili ta mka proceed sa atong gusto., therefore we end up taking a course that we dont like., therefore we become depressed, therefore we feel that there is no meaning anymore.. kanang naa tay uyab, gibuwagan ta, although nakalimot ta nila pero deep inside we are longing for someone nga parihas nila kay nka experience man tag kalipay, then we end up marrying someone we dont love, therefore we become unhappy, therefore we feel that there is no meaning anymore... etc..

but depende rana sa taw, it differs individually..

[Arteezy]

puros raman gani ka copy paste ug idea. wala gyud kay imo, liman ka mag post nalang ka sa express yourself thread copy paste gihapon nga quote, or copy paste nga lyrics
sample :

mas labaw na kang mag copy paste sa imong bible nga bulok...

at least mga bright nga tawo akong gipang quote...silang plato,hitchens, og socrates

[noy]

di ko parehas nimo nga mag google basta di katubag sa akong mga pangutana.

bisan kinsa pa imong e-mention, bisan kang newton pa ka magpalaban, wa effect na kay pareha man na silang tanang nga di maka-prove nga naay ginoo..

mas una pa ko nakabalo nimo anang theistic evolution... theistic evolutionist man gani ko kadtong high school pa ko... unya pag hiling, di man magkasinabot ning bible og science... bulok man ning bible.. mag storya2x ang bitin, mura man og cartoons sa TV..

in other words mas bang-giitan pa ka ani nila tanan?

List of Roman Catholic cleric-scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just because you were not able to get the gist of a certain point of view, it doesn't mean nga sayop ang maong point of view..
unsa ka? benchmark? kung unsay tan.aw nimu insakto..mao jud nay sakto...
pagpuyo oi! hilas lang nawng nimu! hahahaha...

by the way, if you really were a theistic evolunists, how come you take the literal stand of a talking snake? PLUS! the bible didn't even mention that it was a snake? hahahaha! hoy gising!

[Arteezy]

in other words mas bang-giitan pa ka ani nila tanan?

List of Roman Catholic cleric-scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

argumentum ad auctoritatem (gitudlo-an na sad ta ka kay vovo man kaau ka)

wa lagi koy paki kung kang kinsa pa ka magpalaban...mas labaw ng mas daghang scientist nga atheist...

kanang list nga imong gi-butang dira, tanan na sila dili makaprove nga naay ginoo so wala na silay gamit.

[noy]

i think you know what i meant by meaning and purpose., you sound like your trolling around, the last thing you want to do is to sound like slabdans..

of course there is a purpose nganong nagpakabuhi ta aning kalibutana if you mean by purpose as the kind nga kanang purpose nga manghingugmo ta.. purpose nganong mo trabaho ta, purpose nganong mopalit ta, purpose nganong matulog ta.. common sense will tell you that c'mon..

but when we are talking about purpose nganong nabuhi ta, or meaning sa atong kinabuhi,.. that's another thing entirely,. in this case i will just narrow it down to a mere opinion 'coz i think it's futile arguing about it., i am in the opinion that a definite purpose and meaning does not exist, if it does, it is not written in the stars,. a psychologist have a better explanation of why this is so, but i will just give you my own layman's explanation..

Ex: atong kurso, as a child we always dreamed of healing people, therefore some of us mag doctor,. ang uban makakita ug salida anang aeroplano2 mag pilot nig dako.. and they become happy... now problem is since money is always the problem,. dili ta mka proceed sa atong gusto., therefore we end up taking a course that we dont like., therefore we become depressed, therefore we feel that there is no meaning anymore.. kanang naa tay uyab, gibuwagan ta, although nakalimot ta nila pero deep inside we are longing for someone nga parihas nila kay nka experience man tag kalipay, then we end up marrying someone we dont love, therefore we become unhappy, therefore we feel that there is no meaning anymore... etc..

but depende rana sa taw, it differs individually..

no bai. .wala ko ga troll2 oi..ang mga tarong ka istorya deserves a proper conversation with respect.
usa ka sa mga atheist nga maayo kaistorya.

naay nindut nga example bahin sa purpose bai.
diba we can all agree that maturity comes from learnings in Life and those learnings are not necessarily a walk in the park.
'cause those learning process might come in a form of struggle,pain, loss and even defeat..

now, while we are going through tough times, most people do not necessarily see it as a tool for learning but something that would just make us want to give life up..but if we do however remain pressing forward. we will eventually see that the chaos that had happened was actually to make us if not other people become better and stronger.
now, i don't know about you, but it looks like pupose to me.. and whenever there is purpose, we cannot just leave it to chance can we?

[noy]

argumentum ad auctoritatem (gitudlo-an na sad ta ka kay vovo man kaau ka)

wa lagi koy paki kung kang kinsa pa ka magpalaban...mas labaw ng mas daghang scientist nga atheist...

kanang list nga imong gi-butang dira, tanan na sila dili makaprove nga naay ginoo so wala na silay gamit.

hoy ikaw ang wa kasabut..naa pa kay pa latin2x diha...LOL

let me break it down to you...

first, ikaw ang nag ingun nga conflict jud ang bible ug science, then nig ingun ka nga wa ko logic for thinking otherwise..
so i asked you if tanan bang tao nga mutuo nga walay conflict ang bible ug sciece kay wa kaila ug LOGIC?
so i qouted gregor mendel..i asked you to prove YOUR OWN STATEMENT nga way logic ang tao kung motuo nga way conflict ang sceince ug bible. so where is your proof?

ug ngano ning abut naman pud tawn ka ug proof bahin sa Ginoo? STICK with the topic..

[Arteezy]

hoy ikaw ang wa kasabut..naa pa kay pa latin2x diha...LOL

let me break it down to you...

first, ikaw ang nag ingun nga conflict jud ang bible ug science, then nig ingun ka nga wa ko logic for thinking otherwise..
so i asked you if tanan bang tao nga mutuo nga walay conflict ang bible ug sciece kay wa kaila ug LOGIC?
so i qouted gregor mendel..i asked you to prove YOUR OWN STATEMENT nga way logic ang tao kung motuo nga way conflict ang sceince ug bible. so where is your proof?

ug ngano ning abut naman pud tawn ka ug proof bahin sa Ginoo? STICK with the topic..

asa akong proof??

kana im0ng kavovo dira..

mo-ingon man kag scientific ng mostorya nga bitin...ROFL