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    Quote Originally Posted by nuvisys View Post
    Reincarnation/reimbodiment/being born again is biblical. At least, there is one instance where a man died and was reborn againthe story of Elijah the prophet and John the Baptist.)

    2kings 2:11 – Elijah is taken up to heaven

    Mal 4:5 – before the great and terrible day of the lord comes, I will send you the prophet Elijah

    Sirach 48:10 - you (Elijah)are ready to appear at the designated time..
    (Apocrypha/deuterocanonicals)

    Matt 11:14 – john is Elijah.. whose coming was predicted
    Matt 17:12 – Elijah has already come

    Mark 9:13- Elijah is already come

    I presented these verses to a priest and a JW and both gave ludicrous answers (palusot). I mentioned that if they deny these verses, it means that Jesus is a liar. Puro palusot.com

    Elijah lived more than 800 years before John.

    If this is not reincarnation/reimbodiment/being born again, what is it?
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    Does the Bible teach reincarnation?

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    No. Scripture teaches that "it is appointed that men die once, and after this comes judgment" (Heb 9:27). There is absolutely no biblical evidence for reincarnation.

    Sometimes people try to find biblical warrant for reincarnation in Christ's words about John the Baptist. In Matthew 17:12 Christ says, "I tell you Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him." Matthew adds, "Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of John the Baptist" (Mt 17:13).

    Is Jesus saying that John was the reincarnation of Elijah? No. Here's the simple reason. According to 2 Kings 2:9-18, Elijah was taken up bodily into heaven without seeing death. Thus, he wasn't a candidate for reincarnation because he was still in his original incarnation.

    In Matthew 17:1-8, Moses and Elijah appear to Christ and some of his disciples at the Transfiguration. This occurs after John the Baptist has been executed by Herod Antipas. Why is it, then, that Moses and Elijah appear to Christ and his disciples, and not Moses and John the Baptist?

    If Christ doesn't mean John the Baptist is the reincarnation of Elijah, what does he mean? Jesus is speaking figuratively in Matthew 17:12. He's comparing the prophetic ministry of John in the New Testament to that of Elijah in the Old. Similarly, Luke 1:17 says John "will go before him [the Lord] in the spirit and power of Elijah."

    So there's no biblical basis for reincarnation. A person who is considering reincarnation is faced with a choice of believing other alleged sources of religious truth or believing the biblical witness. To accept the former in this instance is to reject the latter.

    source: Does the Bible teach reincarnation? | Catholic Answers

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    reincarnation is the most absurd and illogical points in religion.


    let's say and assume for one second that reincarnation is real and heaven is real.

    so, here's MR.SOUL and his adventures ::

    during 1000 BC. MR. SOUL was a carpenter, and a very good guy, he never did commit one sin and so he died.

    during 500 A.D. MR. SOUL was reincarnated, but as a woman but she was a prostitute and a swindler and so she died.

    during the Victorian age MR. SOUL was again reincarnated, but now as a man, and he was a MAYOR and he helped many people and so he died.

    during 1960. MR SOUL was again reincarnated, also as a man, but he was too high on LSD and marijuana that he went on a killing spree and killed and raped 40 women.




    now ..... THE JUDGEMENT DAY comes ... and MR.SOUL was in front of Saint Peter ..............

    the question now is .... TO WHICH LIFE WOULD SAINT PETER JUDGE MR SOUL ?? as the carpenter ? as the prosti ? as the MAYOR or as the serial killer ??


    gamit lang ta ug logic ha, dili lang ta anang mga linya sa bible kay wala nay gamit ....



    dili pd cguro sakto ang imong gtell nga "dili lang ta anang mga linya sa bible kay wala nay gamit"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuvisys View Post
    sori mga brads, can't understand cebuano/visayan. am confused.
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Die then reborn.. ang problema si Elijah wa man namatay
    Translation: the Problem with concluding reincarnation relating to the supposed case of Prophet Elijah and John the Baptist is that Elijah did not die..
    Last edited by noy; 05-13-2014 at 05:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starcatch View Post
    dili pd cguro sakto ang imong gtell nga "dili lang ta anang mga linya sa bible kay wala nay gamit"
    iyaha pud na. hehehe.. prehas ra gud nas naay mga tao uban muingun nga way gamit ang vitamins.. hehehe

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    TS, a belief or direct knowledge on the Law of Reincarnation? How about Law of Karma?

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    hehehe kani murag magkasabot najud mo ani...aw ambot dili ma di ie kasabot ug bisaya si TS

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    Patay sugod nasad ta aning topica lol. Daghan nasad ma infractionan ani ba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Patay sugod nasad ta aning topica lol. Daghan nasad ma infractionan ani ba.
    dili man ni problema ang mga topic nga ingun ani..ang kina-iya sa ubang tao nga ganahan maghisgut ug ingun ani unya mag binastos dayun kung mahutdan na ug rason maoy problema.

  9. #19
    kinsay naay $27.76 plus shipping diha?

    basahon nato ni.. Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation: Second Edition, Revised and Enlarged: Ian Stevenson: 9780813908724: Amazon.com: Books

    ganahan man kaha ta makasabot ani nga topic

    ...

    Can anyone speak a language he or she has not learned normally, in childhood or later? Claims to have accomplished this are made from time to time, but only rarely do they receive support when carefully examines. In this volume Dr. Stevenson presents detailed reports of two cases taht seem authentic.

    Authentic instances of speaking a language that has not been learned normally (responsive xenoglossy) suggest that another personality (perhaps one of a previous life) had learned the langauge. Cases of responsive xenoglossy thus add to the evidence concerning the survival of human personality after death.
    or kini ba kaha kay mas barato ra

    Many Lives, Many Masters: The True Story of a Prominent Psychiatrist, His Young Patient, and the Past-Life Therapy That Changed Both Their Lives: Brian L. Weiss: 9780671657864: Amazon.com: Books


    As featured on Oprah’s “Super Soul Sunday,” the classic bestseller on a true case of past-life trauma and past-life therapy from author and psychotherapist Dr. Brian Weiss—now featuring a new afterword by the author.

    As a traditional psychotherapist, Dr. Brian Weiss was astonished and skeptical when one of his patients began recalling past-life traumas that seemed to hold the key to her recurring nightmares and anxiety attacks. His skepticism was eroded, however, when she began to channel messages from the “space between lives,” which contained remarkable revelations about Dr. Weiss’ family and his dead son. Using past-life therapy, he was able to cure the patient and embark on a new, more meaningful phase of his own career.
    mga scientists man gyud na ang mga author.. basin naa tay makat-unan sa ilang mga sinulat...
    Last edited by Passport; 05-13-2014 at 09:12 PM.

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    The truth about Reincarnation will require the knowledge of the true Self.

    Why some are born in a very poor country? very poor family? others with a golden spoon? royal family? why born Christian? why Muslim family? why male? why female? bobo no matter unsa ka naning mag study? very intelligent?

    For those who have knowledge of the true Self and Reincarnation, no more questions. Just enjoying the benefits of that knowledge.

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