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    Quote Originally Posted by menatsu View Post
    First of all, naa man jud negligence sa part sa parent of the child which you admitted yourself. Dili man kaha tanan sala sa SM as you said?
    And nganong naabot sa dili mi kasabot on how to be a parent blah blah blah na topic? I really don't see the relevance of playing the "parent" card in here which you brought up.
    Can you elaborate unsa nga negligence sa parent imo pasabot? Kahibaw na diay ka mabuak ang bildo inig dool sa bata? Kining mga railings gibuhat aron iwas aksidente so ang parent ana ni "TRUST" sa structure. Ug ikaw guro guardian ato unya kita ka naa sa railings imo anak mabalaka baka? I don't think so.

    Negligence gani kanang kibaw naka naa bad ma happen like letting your child play near a pool, playing fire, playing near a road, etc. Pero kanang mabuak lang kalit ang glass railings sa SM dili na negligence kundi bad structure ug most blame goes to the contractors.

    Aksidente jud ni maski unsaon pag bali2x sa kalibutan. Dili pud ni negligence sa parent kay in the first place kining mga railings dili ni hazardous area. Structure defect ug wala nay lain i blame kundi ang management sa SM(safety routine check) ug sa contractors.
    Last edited by Nefarian; 05-09-2014 at 07:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Can you elaborate unsa nga negligence sa parent imo pasabot? Kahibaw na diay ka mabuak ang bildo inig dool sa bata? Kining mga railings gibuhat aron iwas aksidente so ang parent ana ni "TRUST" sa structure. Ug ikaw guro guardian ato unya kita ka naa sa railings imo anak mabalaka baka? I don't think so.

    Negligence gani kanang kibaw naka naa bad ma happen like letting your child play near a pool, playing fire, playing near a road, etc. Pero kanang mabuak lang kalit ang glass railings sa SM dili na negligence kundi bad structure ug most blame goes to the contractors.

    Aksidente jud ni maski unsaon pag bali2x sa kalibutan. Dili pud ni negligence sa parent kay in the first place kining mga railings dili ni hazardous area. Structure defect ug wala nay lain i blame kundi ang management sa SM(safety routine check) ug sa contractors.
    sure ka nabuak lang og kalit ang glass and it just so happened nga naay bata near it and nahulog, is that your version of the story? read back daw. "TRUST" sa structure? They were not meant to ram against in the first place. You are making alot of assumptions to the extent that you do not know what you are talking about. Dili ko mabalaka? Sure ka? if nagbantay ko og bata and knowing kiat sya, dili jud nako biyaan oi. Do not project yourself to others kay sure ko ikaw siguro ang dili mabalaka. And look at what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by menatsu View Post
    sure ka nabuak lang og kalit ang glass and it just so happened nga naay bata near it and nahulog, is that your version of the story? read back daw. "TRUST" sa structure? They were not meant to ram against in the first place. You are making alot of assumptions to the extent that you do not know what you are talking about. Dili ko mabalaka? Sure ka? if nagbantay ko og bata and knowing kiat sya, dili jud nako biyaan oi. Do not project yourself to others kay sure ko ikaw siguro ang dili mabalaka. And look at what happened
    Bro, kun ikaw tag iya sa SM, kinsa man diay imong basulon, ang contractor or ang ginikinan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Bro, kun ikaw tag iya sa SM, kinsa man diay imong basulon, ang contractor or ang ginikinan?
    I would blame the one who is guarding the child and the one who handles the checking and maintenance of those barrier. Why blame the contractor? The railings did serve its purpose most of the time kay kung wala pa, we will be getting news of people falling down from different floors of SM everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Bro, kun ikaw tag iya sa SM, kinsa man diay imong basulon, ang contractor or ang ginikinan?

    Para nako both akong basulon aneh... ky ang contractor basin ang gitaod na glass ky low quality and sa ginikanan na side dapat tingale bantayan nato ang atong anak ky kita mismo kaila sa atong anak kung kiat ba or dle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by menatsu View Post
    I would blame the one who is guarding the child and the one who handles the checking and maintenance of those barrier. Why blame the contractor?The railings did serve its purpose most of the time kay kung wala pa, we will be getting news of people falling down from different floors of SM everyday.
    Nganong blame-mon contractor? seryoso ni nga pangutana?

    Unsa man diay imong pagtuo gyud bro, ang SM mismo ang nagpanday sa tindahan?

    [QUOTE=menatsu;16374917]The railings did serve its purpose most of the time kay kung wala pa, we will be getting news of people falling down from different floors of SM everyday./QUOTE]

    Ayaw gud paghinanggaw bro.

    Kani nga panghitabo, angayan nga mamahimong tamdanan sa mga contrator aron mas mo improve pa ang kalidad sa ilang trabaho.

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    [QUOTE=Crinkles11;16374964]Nganong blame-mon contractor? seryoso ni nga pangutana?

    Unsa man diay imong pagtuo gyud bro, ang SM mismo ang nagpanday sa tindahan?

    Quote Originally Posted by menatsu View Post
    The railings did serve its purpose most of the time kay kung wala pa, we will be getting news of people falling down from different floors of SM everyday./QUOTE]

    Ayaw gud paghinanggaw bro.

    Kani nga panghitabo, angayan nga mamahimong tamdanan sa mga contrator aron mas mo improve pa ang kalidad sa ilang trabaho.
    Ikaw ang ayaw pataka og yawit dira. Ang contractor ang tighimo, I am aware of that. Gihimo ba nila og tuyo ang katong specific glass nga substandard which caused the child to fall? No. If substandard man ang ilang glass railings, and again, daghan na unta nangahulog dira sa SM. Ask yourself pila na ka tao ang nagsandig sandig dira near the edge and wala nahulog. Nya karon pa man lagi naa? THen go blame the one who handles checking and maintaining those glasses. Point your fingers at the right direction and dili lang pataka og panangil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crinkles11 View Post
    Nganong blame-mon contractor? seryoso ni nga pangutana?

    Unsa man diay imong pagtuo gyud bro, ang SM mismo ang nagpanday sa tindahan?



    Ikaw ang ayaw pataka og yawit dira. Ang contractor ang tighimo, I am aware of that. Gihimo ba nila og tuyo ang katong specific glass nga substandard which caused the child to fall? No. If substandard man ang ilang glass railings, and again, daghan na unta nangahulog dira sa SM. Ask yourself pila na ka tao ang nagsandig sandig dira near the edge and wala nahulog. Nya karon pa man lagi naa? THen go blame the one who handles checking and maintaining those glasses. Point your fingers at the right direction and dili lang pataka og panangil.
    Kun ikaw ang kontraktor Bro irason ni sa husgado. Inga nga wa nimo tuyoa nga substandard material imong gigamit so dili ka angayan mabasol.

    Ang mga dagkung taw bro kun mosandig2x kabalo cguro ka nga dili ang glass ilang masandigan, ang puthaw nga railing, di ba?. Mao ng naa tay mga arketik ug engineer para maoy moplano, dagku na silag sweldo kay daku na silag responsibilidad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by menatsu View Post
    sure ka nabuak lang og kalit ang glass and it just so happened nga naay bata near it and nahulog, is that your version of the story? read back daw. "TRUST" sa structure? They were not meant to ram against in the first place. You are making alot of assumptions to the extent that you do not know what you are talking about. Dili ko mabalaka? Sure ka? if nagbantay ko og bata and knowing kiat sya, dili jud nako biyaan oi. Do not project yourself to others kay sure ko ikaw siguro ang dili mabalaka. And look at what happened
    They are meant to prevent children from falling down. Kini nga structure calcualated na tanan from maximum force nga maka withstand etc. Clearly brader nga accident jud siya ug wala labot ang parent ana. Ug wala pani mahitabo maka think kaha ka nga risgo siya nga mosandig ka diha sa glass railings?

    Pusta akong lobot na kunot karon raka nabalaka kay nabuakan naman.Sauna naka think kaha ka ana?

    P.S. Daghan nako kasuroy anang SM wala man jud ko kitag karatula nga dili pwede mag ram2x diha sa glass railings. Kibaw ka sa reasons? In a civilised society, adults are expected to behave properly inside a public place and in this case sa SM. Ug kita kag adult nag bunal2x sa iyang ulo diha sa glass railings aw buang na. So expect nga children will do the ramming kay wala panay mga boot.
    Last edited by Nefarian; 05-09-2014 at 09:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    They are meant to prevent children from falling down. Kini nga structure calcualated na tanan from maximum force nga maka withstand etc. Clearly brader nga accident jud siya ug wala labot ang parent ana. Ug wala pani mahitabo maka think kaha ka nga risgo siya nga mosandig ka diha sa glass railings?

    Pusta akong lobot na kunot karon raka nabalaka kay nabuakan naman.Sauna naka think kaha ka ana?
    It was not meant specifically for children but for everyone. How many adults have been leaning on that glass and wala nahulog?
    (simbako intawn) Kung mahulog imong bata nga kiat sa balay sa imong silingan, imong iblame imong silingan or ang nag himo sa ilang balay? Or sa balay man lang nimo, iblame nimo ang naghimo sa imong balay?

    LOL @ the butt part haha. Unsaon man nga pildi man ka? lol. Dili naman jud ko tigduol ana sa edge bisag unsa pa na floor in the first place kay I am scared of heights :P

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