View Poll Results: Is Scarborough Shoal worth fighting?

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  1. #3171

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    China needs to acknowledge that they are not alone in this region and that their neighbors value their territorial integrity. The arrogant claims of indisputable sovereignty couldn't be further from the truth. Sovereignty is very much in dispute and China must respect UNCLOS or be deemed a militaristic aggressor.

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    Lightbulb let's fight standing in our feet than die crawling in our knees

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116 View Post
    in the end no one will win




    di ko motuo nga no one will win


    pero ang tinuod, we Filipinos has a big or great lot to loss if we don't give it a fight for now


    kinahanglan nga bisan kulang ta sa mga hinagibang armas ug nga di pa igo ang gibuhat nga inisyatibo sa atung gobierno karon apan makapukaw na kini nga kitang mga Pinoy andam muasdang ug makigharong sa mga pikot ug mata



    swerte lang ang China nga mas advance sila sa mga weapons technology. kay kun nahitabo pa nga bisan ang Pilipinas nga gamay nga nasud pero naa sab advanced weapons technology sama sa Israel, dugay ra tingali nagtakos sa kadagatan ug kahanginan nga mga armadong kusog sa duha ka nasud



    pero di kita mawad-an sa paglaum

  3. #3173

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    No ifs and buts about it: the Philippines and China are no longer friends.
    https://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-...155541652.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    there's always a protracted insurgent/non-conventional warfare guys. We were historically good at that (I hope it is ingrained to us biologically). It's probably the only way we can make the Chinese pay and maybe withdraw when a theoretical invasion and occupation occurs.

    Question is, are we, in general, ready to lose a part of ourselves in order to be part of one?
    But the problem with non-conventional warfare like guerilla warfare is that CHINA already have allies in the Philippines who knows the jungles very much like the back of their hands, I'm referring to the local commies here. This would give them the advantage. Maybe it would be ok to fight in a non-conventional way like the what the Iraqi militants did, in their urban areas by using IEDs, suicide bombers, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jai963214 View Post
    But the problem with non-conventional warfare like guerilla warfare is that CHINA already have allies in the Philippines who knows the jungles very much like the back of their hands, I'm referring to the local commies here. This would give them the advantage. Maybe it would be ok to fight in a non-conventional way like the what the Iraqi militants did, in their urban areas by using IEDs, suicide bombers, etc.
    If you do choose to fight, you take as many as possible... they are already here disguised as stores selling cheap goods. Fight bravely knowing that it is already a losing war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jai963214 View Post
    But the problem with non-conventional warfare like guerilla warfare is that CHINA already have allies in the Philippines who knows the jungles very much like the back of their hands, I'm referring to the local commies here. This would give them the advantage. Maybe it would be ok to fight in a non-conventional way like the what the Iraqi militants did, in their urban areas by using IEDs, suicide bombers, etc.
    The fight will be in the cities and jungles. As far as the commies here, they are a stark minority--and there are always collaborators during an occupation, if the price is right. We don't know the Chinese threshold for protracted insurgencies, because unlike the Russians or Americans, they have never really occupied another country in the modern era. They might be proven incapable and unprepared to conduct one.

    Now, personally, from the looks of it I don't think China will do anything unless they will find a really good provocation. I think what they're doing right now is baiting for a provocation. I really don't think it is within their best interest to start a war right now. However, if the situation between Russia and the west intensifies, I think China's need for a clear-cut provocation is greatly reduced and he will step up in these imperialist-esque actions. Xi from the looks of it is not as bold as Putin, so his actions with regards to foreign policy will hinge on his neighbor (and co-aligned, in terms of power shift in the global spectrum).
    Last edited by æRLO; 03-31-2014 at 02:23 PM.

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    Maau unta ug ang atong mga bangason nga mga marines sa ayungin shoal di lang mokagat sa paon

  8. #3178

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    panahon na magtukod ug cells..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    If you do choose to fight, you take as many as possible... they are already here disguised as stores selling cheap goods. Fight bravely knowing that it is already a losing war.
    Indeed they are here, and some of them are manning vital installations... Last September 2013, I was one of the members of a monitoring team that went to a hinterland barangay in Buenavista, Bohol. Up there in Brgy. Lusong there is a relay tower owned by the National Grid Corporation, when we get nearer I saw a chinese guy among the personnel there probably an engineer. God forbid, if an armed conflict will erupt with China, they can cripple the grid system without firing missiles to the transmission towers and faster than what yolanda did to the visayas electrical grid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jai963214 View Post
    Indeed they are here, and some of them are manning vital installations... Last September 2013, I was one of the members of a monitoring team that went to a hinterland barangay in Buenavista, Bohol. Up there in Brgy. Lusong there is a relay tower owned by the National Grid Corporation, when we get nearer I saw a chinese guy among the personnel there probably an engineer. God forbid, if an armed conflict will erupt with China, they can cripple the grid system without firing missiles to the transmission towers and faster than what yolanda did to the visayas electrical grid.
    It is a losing war.. but some wars have to be fought no matter what.

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