Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[SioDenz]

Simple rman ang pasabot ani uy nganong ga libog2 man mo..

faith - pagtuo
Work - maayong buhat - maayong binuhatan

so unsa man sa duha ang mkaluwas nimo? pwede rba ang faith ra? or kinahanglan ta ug action sad?

mao ra na ang pangutana...

Basta THEISM na jud nay Kalibog

If maghigda ko, nya sa akong huna huna Mutawag ko sa DIOS para mag hinolsol, dayun mamatay ko right after. Ma consider ba to akong Gibuhat as Good Works?

[jonz]

you work good when you have fait.. strong faith.. whats the point of doing good when you dont have faith?

[pakinimo]

you work good when you have fait.. strong faith.. whats the point of doing good when you dont have faith?

how about the point of just helping other people? not enough for you?

[chardeelove]

ask lng ko...
katong mga athiest OR buddhist/muslims nga nag buhat ug maayu.. "good work" huh
ma save ba kaha to sila?
dili gani na sila mutoo ug ginoo or cristo.
asa ma to sila ma punta..?


"good work"??
dili tanan good work gikahimut an sa Ginoo.
WHY?
example!!
kung ako nakita ko'g makililimoss sa dalan.. nangayu sa siya nako
crowded of people.
YES! ni hatag ko! PERO! akong intensyon IS para magpa empress sa mga people nga maayu kay ko..
DILI NA SIYA GOOD WORK!
ni hatag lage ko pero deep inside my heart and my mind lahi akong intensyon!

ANOTHER EXAMPLE!
mga politician giving lots of donation sa mga pobre dili na automatically entail good works(in the sight of God) if the person has personal interest


GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING!
deep inside my heart! GOD KNOWS KUNG maayu O DILI akong gipangbuhat!
mu reflect gihapon sa sa imung inner side!
good works also means good intentions!
ang GINOO ra na kaw kung tinood anay ba na imung work work diha!

yes! I know good work is an obedience!!



ON THE GOOD THIEF ON THE CROSS.!
The Good Thief had faith and immediately, he put his faith to work. In bravely rebuking a fellow sinner, humbly confessing his sins and publicly acknowledging Jesus as Lord, his faith – however new – was working – however little – in love and obedience.

That means the Good Thief cannot be a proof for sola fide; all he proves is the all-surpassing love and mercy of Our Crucified Saviour.


good work!
We don’t mean you have to do a certain number of good things to be save. With the grace of God, and following/obeying God's will, you do good deeds for His Glory.

[SioDenz]

how about the point of just helping other people? not enough for you?

Depende unsay imung tumong ug tuyo sa pagtabang

[SioDenz]

ask lng ko...
katong mga athiest OR buddhist/muslims nga nag buhat ug maayu.. "good work" huh
ma save ba kaha to sila?
dili gani na sila mutoo ug ginoo or cristo.
asa ma to sila ma punta..?

Its Between them and God.

ON THE GOOD THIEF ON THE CROSS.!
The Good Thief had faith and immediately, he put his faith to work. In bravely rebuking a fellow sinner, humbly confessing his sins and publicly acknowledging Jesus as Lord, his faith – however new – was working – however little – in love and obedience.

That means the Good Thief cannot be a proof for sola fide; all he proves is the all-surpassing love and mercy of Our Crucified Saviour.

Naa sad diay Good Killer kay naa may Good Thief, or Good Adulterer perhaps?

Mao lagi na akong pangutana, if naay tawo naghigda nlan kay hapit na mamatay Nya sa iyang HUNA HUNA iyang gitawag ang DIOS ug nangayo siyag pasaylo kay di nman siya ka istorya - Nya right after namatay siya. Good works ghapon ang tawag ana?

[MasterK]

Mao lagi na akong pangutana, if naay tawo naghigda nlan kay hapit na mamatay Nya sa iyang HUNA HUNA iyang gitawag ang DIOS ug nangayo siyag pasaylo kay di nman siya ka istorya - Nya right after namatay siya. Good works ghapon ang tawag ana?

morag mao ni iyang tubag @sio ay:

repentance does not occur only in the mind.. if it is the case then its not repentance at all.. its just a plan to repent! for repentance is an ACT of repenting!!



if for you repentance is expressed through speech then it you are doing a GOOD WORK! see! you are just debunking your own belief



if you are humble, you are doing a good work! since humble could be a verb then you are doing a GOOD WORK!

[pakinimo]

@chardeelove

wa mi nangutana kung good work na or bad. ang pangutana is ma considered ba na sya nga work

just say it straight kng unsa giud ang definition sa work diri nga atong ma agreehan. murag naa manai pa liko liko imoa gd makalibog

[chardeelove]

Its Between them and God.

so dili mao ang faith alone sah.
kay unsaon man sila pag justify sa Ginoo?
by faith alone? unya wa man sila kaila ug Ginoo..

it's between God and them?
depende sabot.

Naa sad diay Good Killer kay naa may Good Thief, or Good Adulterer perhaps?

past naman to siya nato sio.. oh cge.. GOOD NA siya because nag penitensya man siya iyang mga sala sa Ginoo ug GIPASAYLO pud siya mao'ng Good NA siya!

pero kung wa siya manguyu ug pasaylo sa Ginoo.. unya pariha siya atong usa ka kawatan.. ahw Bad jud.. BAD BOY

GOOD KILLER.?
SITUATION:
naa koy friend nga mupatay(i know nga killer siya) ug taw.. unya pila years na usab siya. na convert unto GOOD man. (dili na siya mu patay) kabaw na sad siya unsa'y bad ug good
so GOOD NA siya.. since kabaw ko sa iyang past(killer). depende nako.. mu ingon ku'g Hi good killer!
killer killer power!
hehehe

iyang HUNA HUNA iyang gitawag ang DIOS ug nangayo siyag pasaylo kay di nman siya ka istorya - Nya right after namatay siya.

God is SO merciful sio.
GOOD WORK.? yes good work gihapon, why? iyang gibuhat IS nangayu siya ug pasaylo sa Ginoo sa wa pa siya mamatay.. which is gikikahimut an ug maayu sa ginoo. with clear heart kay kabaw naman siya mamaty na siya..

Hi sio

[chardeelove]

@chardeelove

wa mi nangutana kung good work na or bad. ang pangutana is ma considered ba na sya nga work

just say it straight kng unsa giud ang definition sa work diri nga atong ma agreehan. murag naa manai pa liko liko imoa gd makalibog

liko liko..?? purto pur purto nah..

nag hatag pa gali kog example para masabtan..
ni tubag napud ko unsay good work..
basa #2407

HI pakinimo:wave: