Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[hans josefina]

Tinuod bitaw, tan awa naa bay ni Argue sa imung gi Post.

biliba njud nako nimo,murag wla bitaw ni argue.haha

[chardeelove]

Okay ra ni miss char kaysa mag drugs ka
That's good magtake sad ka time basa2 sa bible.

Hope youll learn more...God bless!

argumentum ad hominem

ingon anah day nah.. pabasahon dayon tag bible..
do you think matubag kaha ko nimo ug mga bible verses without reading it..
naka sabot ko akong gibasa oe..
basin ikaw wala..

[hans josefina]

ganahan ko motambay usahay ani nga thread. kay debati kung debati ba..
pero naapod ko kat-onan bahin aning bibliya.

[chardeelove]

The thief on the cross is the very good example of justified by Faith alone. Wla naman sya gipakanaog sa ginoo for him to do good works. God only knows his intentions and the sincerity of His heart. Ang pagconfess/pagsalig nya tinuoray sa ginoo is the key to his salvation. Of course kung gihatagan pa syag time to do good works, surely naa ang working sa Holy Spirit that will take place after.

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The thief on the cross is the very good example of justified by Faith alone. Wla naman sya gipakanaog sa ginoo for him to do good works. God only knows his intentions and the sincerity of His heart. Ang pagconfess/pagsalig nya tinuoray sa ginoo is the very requirement of his salvation.

The thief on the cross did more than just believe.
His repentance was a good work
His admittance of sin was a good work
His humility was a good work
The good thief was not to be saved by faith alone.

[pakinimo]

The thief on the cross did more than just believe.
His repentance was a good work
His admittance of sin was a good work
His humility was a good work
The good thief was not to be saved by faith alone.

Repentance occurs inside the mind, expressed through speech.
Admittance occurs inside the mind, expressed through speech.
Humility IS admittance of sin, which occurs in the mind.

None of these manifest physical actions that actually affect other people in a good way. They are similar with faith, occurs only in the mind. In other words, how can we consider these 3 examples as works?

murag galibog nagiud ko tungod ani da, Unsa giud diay pasabot anang "works"?

Mas maayo cguro kung i-define nato daan kung unsa jud ng 'works', kay para sa uban ang pag repent palang considerered as works nana. Pero para sa uban, faith ranang repentance.

[WengIA]

dili sad jud pod ko moingon nga work to iyang gibuhat.. kay ang work it needs an effort imong haguan.
usa ra jud ang hinungdan nganong naluwas to sya... its by Grace og wala nay lain pa.. og dili na excuse sa tao ang Grasya sa kaluwasan ha..mao nay hinumduman nato mao kinahanglan jud ta og lihok. dili nato panaminan tong criminal nga gilansang uban ni Kristo kay wala to sya kailang Cristo pa atong panahuna nga salbahis kaayo sya. Kamo nakaila naman mo sa Ginoo og usa pa perme na natong madungog ang iyang mga Pulong mao mag effort ta sa atong kaluwasan.

[cptn_star]

The thief on the cross did more than just believe.
His repentance was a good work
His admittance of sin was a good work
His humility was a good work
The good thief was not to be saved by faith alone.

The principle here is what spurs the repentance, confession, humility and submission - that, my friend, is FAITH. By definition, works are deeds. Physical efforts which can never really add up any chance of granting someone salvation. If salvation is formulated as faith + works, then the rule of thumb would be: "lakaw kog 10km na procession kay dako kog pagtuo nga mapun.an kog 10% nga chance nga malangit ko."

Faith produces the good works. Good works are the manifestation of faith. Faith is a constant figure forumula. No additions whatsoever.

[shockie]

Repentance occurs inside the mind, expressed through speech.
Admittance occurs inside the mind, expressed through speech.
Humility IS admittance of sin, which occurs in the mind.

None of these manifest physical actions that actually affect other people in a good way. They are similar with faith, occurs only in the mind. In other words, how can we consider these 3 examples as works?

murag galibog nagiud ko tungod ani da, Unsa giud diay pasabot anang "works"?

Mas maayo cguro kung i-define nato daan kung unsa jud ng 'works', kay para sa uban ang pag repent palang considerered as works nana. Pero para sa uban, faith ranang repentance.

That's right bro.
Lahi sad siguro ang sabot ni miss char sa "works"...

[SioDenz]

Faith - God
Work - Man

If naa ra sa Huna huna, i dont think it can be considered as WORK.

[WengIA]

lisod kaayo na dili jud na maconsidered nga work kay mahimo ng excuse sa tao..