Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[slabdans]

hope God will workout sa atong life nga tinuoray jud atong faith niya bro. Coz useless ang tanan natong gipangshare diri if not.

God bless bro.

ok rana bro...huwat rako judgement day

[shockie]

@pakinimo

welcome always bro.
May God bless us.

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ok rana bro...huwat rako judgement day

Im sure God will use us bro for His glory if sensitive lang ta sa iyang conviction.
It sounds very impossible but with God it isnt.

[slabdans]

@pakinimo

welcome always bro.
May god bless us.

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im sure god will use us bro for his glory if sensitive lang ta sa iyang conviction.
It sounds very impossible but with god it isnt.

amen !!!

[TwoStepsFromHeLL]

way mabuhi sa faith alone. .ambak ug 50 floor nga building dayon pag ampo

[yanong_banikanhon]

Ang nakalahi bro kay naa nay leading sa Holy Spirit sa imong kinabuhi, you will become sensitive to his working....thats why once a person is truly converted lisud na sa iyaha nga magbalik sa daan nga kinaiya to betray or grieve the Holy Spirit...Mao ni ang nakalahi sa true believers from the rest of the "professing" Christians.

On the contrary, based on practical experience, dili lisud ang pag-backslide, bro. Ikaw mismo ang nag-ingon niana:

There were times in my life when I made promise sa ginoo to walk in righteousness basta i grant lang akong prayer, it was answered but after a year or so i backslided...

So dili gyud enough ang faith ALONE. Kay ikaw mismo, true man ang imong faith, pero wala lang ihatag sa Dios ang imong gusto for 1 year, ni-backslide man ka. You are a living proof nga kulang gyud ang faith ALONE, nga importante gyud sa kaluwasan ang good works.

[cptn_star]

way mabuhi sa faith alone. .ambak ug 50 floor nga building dayon pag ampo

This idea is like wearing a necklace on the foot.

[shockie]

@two steps

Naa bro uie…kung moambak ta nga naay parachute
What I mean is when we have Jesus Christ in our life. Pero kung moambak ta believing in ourselves nga dili ta mamatay paghagba sa ubos, sinsiyo resulta nato ana.

If we have the kind of Faith that saves, dunay conviction sa imong self nga dili na mao imong buhaton…ngano gud moambak manka kung kasabot kang masinsiyo ka? This kind of example bro dili kinahanglan ug faith, this only needs right thinking.

[yanong_banikanhon]

He will work in your life through the Holy Spirit, you will take no effort trying to comply or do good works...

No efforts gud tawon. Basaha ni bro, ay:

Philippians 2:12
Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling

Work out your salvation with FEAR and TREMBLING man gani ang gisulti ni Paul sa mga faithfuls unya matud nimo, 'it will take no effort'. Nilabaw na hinuon ka sa mga unang magtotoo, bro.

[shockie]

On the contrary, based on practical experience, dili lisud ang pag-backslide, bro. Ikaw mismo ang nag-ingon niana:

So dili gyud enough ang faith ALONE. Kay ikaw mismo, true man ang imong faith, pero wala lang ihatag sa Dios ang imong gusto for 1 year, ni-backslide man ka. You are a living proof nga kulang gyud ang faith ALONE, nga importante gyud sa kaluwasan ang good works.

Thats true bro.
What happen then sa akong kinabuhi after i oppose to backslide? ni degrade bro and miserable. Im sure kung nipadayon kog pagahi sa akong kaugalingon, gipatay nako sa ginoo coz I am only putting shame on his name ug ang akong Christian life is not fruitful anymore. Good thing is nakaamgo ko and God has preserved me for a greater purpose sa akong kinabuhi. Its always my prayer sad nuon bro even before ko nag backslide that before ko kuhaon sa Ginoo, I wanted magamit ko for His glory.....and truly God answered my prayers.

[shockie]

@Yanong

bro, try to continue reading the whole passage.

Question: "What does it mean to work out salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2:12)?"

Answer: In Philippians 2:12-13, Paul writes, “Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed – not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence – continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.”

This text is often misused to instill fear into people, warning them that it means that they can lose salvation. What does it mean to work out our salvation with fear and trembling? Paul can hardly be encouraging believers to live in a continuous condition of nervousness and anxiety. That would contradict his many other exhortations to peace of mind, courage, and confidence in the God who authors our salvation. The Greek word translated "fear" in this context can equally mean "reverence" or "respect." Paul uses the same phrase in (2 Corinthians 7:15) where he refers to Titus as being encouraged by the Corinthians’ reception of him “with fear and trembling,” that is, with great humility and respect for his position as a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Paul himself came to the Corinthian church in “weakness and fear, and with much trembling” (1 Corinthians 2:3), mindful of the great and awesome nature of the work in which he was engaged.

The sense in which we are to work out our salvation in fear and trembling is twofold. First, the Greek verb rendered “work out” means "to continually work to bring something to completion or fruition." We do this by actively pursuing obedience in the process of sanctification, which Paul explains further in the next chapter of Philippians. He describes himself as “straining” and “pressing on” toward the goal of Christlikeness (Philippians 3:13-14). The “trembling” he experiences is the attitude Christians are to have in pursuing this goal—a healthy fear of offending God through disobedience and an awe and respect for His majesty and holiness. "Trembling" can also refer to a shaking due to weakness, but this is a weakness of higher purpose, one which brings us to a state of dependency on God. Obedience and submission to the God we revere and respect is our “reasonable service” (Romans 12:1-2) and brings great joy. Psalm 2:11 sums it up perfectly: “Serve the LORD with fear and rejoice with trembling.” We work out our salvation by going to the very source of our salvation—the Word of God—wherein we renew our hearts and minds (Romans 12:1-2), coming into His presence with a spirit of reverence and awe.

Recommended Resources: Eternal Security by Charles Stanley and Logos Bible Software.

Read more: What does it mean to work out salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2:12)?