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[jdmaspack]

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laina na pud tan.awn ani oi nasobraan man sad. hehe.

Hahahahaha.... basa2x muna sa title sa thread...

[arubinkun]

Hahahahaha.... basa2x muna sa title sa thread...

like lang ko ani... haha

hopefully maslam napud nako ako FD... tigum sa for coilovers... hehehe

[greywolf]

Being in the local car scene for so long , I can now easily distinguish a boy racer from a true enthusiast. I’ve seen countless cars ruined by a car culture that they don’t seem to understand. They claim it’s a Japanese influence called “JDM”. I’m talking about “Stance” and the whole “Hellaflush” thing. How did we do it right for so many years only to have it so confused as time goes on? I suppose lines are being blurred and soon absolutely everything out there influenced by the “Land of the Rising Sun” will be called “JDM.” -Lord Seno

link:
A true JDM | Cebu Business, The Freeman Sections, The Freeman | philstar.com

[arubinkun]

Being in the local car scene for so long , I can now easily distinguish a boy racer from a true enthusiast. I’ve seen countless cars ruined by a car culture that they don’t seem to understand. They claim it’s a Japanese influence called “JDM”. I’m talking about “Stance” and the whole “Hellaflush” thing. How did we do it right for so many years only to have it so confused as time goes on? I suppose lines are being blurred and soon absolutely everything out there influenced by the “Land of the Rising Sun” will be called “JDM.” -Lord Seno

link:
A true JDM | Cebu Business, The Freeman Sections, The Freeman | philstar.com

good article... i agree with the Sir Lord Seno's point; indeed this term has been thrown around so much lately that most of us has forgotten the true meaning of it... for those nga wala kaila ni Boss Lord, usa na sa mga bangiitang sa Cebu... i don't know him personally but his name is pretty much is known to most car enthusiasts here in Cebu... you can check him out sa GroupB Automotive and his regular columns on the Freeman Cebu about motoring... his views to yours might be different so be open to it...

This line pretty much summed it all up and i quote "Well literately it just means “cars that are from Japan, and sold in Japan”..." but it should have eneded there... JDM was never a culture, imports/import tuners was the name of the culture... back when i was a kid, in the late 80s and early 90s (knight rider, cannonball, thunderbolt, transformers and james bond movies... jackie and the evos was the bomb...) even back then when i didnt own a car i have been a fanatic of cars and got a hold every car magazines i can get... 'JDM' was never a common term, it was 'imports'... and this was way before F&F series...

the 'JDM' term started mid to late 90s when various major domestic japanese car brands started manufacturing their units with model variations and availability per market... and i personally never really understood that part though... it was never 'a style' but instead it was a specification to the local market. it meant stiffer springs, yellow fog lamps for the jap mountain roads' curves and fog visibility, speed and engine limiters and other preferences that the jap government set for their roads... i guess thats why it gets mistaken for 'a style' when a car gets imported from japan but actually you are looking at a compliant car when it was still in its local market... it wasn't by choice but by regulation... even then, kids in japan were already pushing it to the limit hence the birth of illegal road racing and drifting in japan's mountain roads (cause there's not much police presence there and most of their mountain roads are one way up and one way down... i told you, i read too much about these things... LOL)

Overall, this did strike a good point... a lot of kids these days are mistakenly using the term but forgetting the history and the real meaning of it hence the term 'ricers' (placing yellow fog lamps on your Chevrolet is not 'JDM'; not even close...)

i on the other hand am enjoying how the scene has grown so much especially now that i own my own ride (and yes, its a jap brand... hehe) and have known car guys and girls much better... its easier to socialize and get the parts/info that you need with easier access to enthusiasts... its just so good to see how everything has evolved... that's the beauty of the car culture... it will always be about being different or against the norm and the continuous evolution...

so now that the term has evolved... JDM (and other DMs - USDM, KDM, Euros, Exotics) now means anything that you got a hold of, fabricated, designed or modified that would usually only be available in that specific domestic market, it could be the brand, model design, parts, upgrades or even stickers/decals ... this is very evident in car scenes in the US, Australia, Canada and even in Japan itself as they have units that were manufactured locally and they order parts from other DMs and install them on their rides (canibeat is a very good example...) Here in the Phils, the only thing difference is we're driving on the wrong side of the road if you ask most of the Asian countries... but our Japanese Brand auto manufacturers are based from Japan's DM; so it should be safe to say that its JDM... but if you want to be specific, PDM or TDM (philippine domestic market or thailand domestic market... trolling... LOL)

so all in all... it all boils down to respect with each others preferences unless you're really uberly, superly, overly, beyondly and everything that describes overdoing it applies to you... after all, its each one's hard work and financial instability(at least for me... LOL) that supports and enabled the scene to grow...

some like FORM other prefer FUNCTION or a mix of both... JDM, USDM, KDM, Euro and Exotics... stock, rally, dropped, slammed, clean, sports, drag, drift, track and my favorite, the daily drivens... what matters is that you enjoy every bit of your car's life while you still have it... breaking necks will and always just be a bonus...

drive safe... go scrape...

here's his article on Hellaflush:
Hellaflush | Cebu Business, The Freeman Sections, The Freeman | philstar.com

[D6045]

Each and every person has their own personal opinion. So if that's his take on stance so be it. He's not the only car enthusiast around. People who are in the fitment scene understand what they are getting into. Yes it may be absurd to wreck a machines main purpose and function but people who are in the fitment scene enjoy it. The meaning of stance has evolved through out time and became a fad. Each and every person has a different opinion on Stance. "Hellaflush" is a type of fitment and most cars abroad who are in the fitment or stance scene compensate form with performance upgrades hence calling it form and function. If you guys don't believe in form and function, I can list numerous sources that can boggle your mind and one would be Stance Works - Low is a Lifestyle.. Stance is not for everyone and it's okay if you don't get it but now a days, low is a lifestyle.

Still confused? Come and join our meets and pwede ta mg heart to heart talk

[arubinkun]

well said D6045...

it will always be the owner's preference... to each his own...

matod pa sa ako papa... "batia na tan.awon anang dili na stock imo auto oi..." hahaha... iya sad nah...

but for stance dudes (i would like to think i am bisan ug dili dapa ako auto...) you will need to sacrifice performance just to get the perfect fitment that you want...

and that involves a lot of garage time and finances just as performance dudes would do in tuning...

[D6045]

well said D6045...

it will always be the owner's preference... to each his own...

matod pa sa ako papa... "batia na tan.awon anang dili na stock imo auto oi..." hahaha... iya sad nah...

but for stance dudes (i would like to think i am bisan ug dili dapa ako auto...) you will need to sacrifice performance just to get the perfect fitment that you want...

and that involves a lot of garage time and finances just as performance dudes would do in tuning...

Yes, not all people have the same taste. Dili mn sd ta maka pugos sa usa ka tao mo appreciate sa butang. Having a stance car or not doesn't define if you are a stance guy. What's most important is that you appreciate the concept and enjoy it! Some people try to compensate with performance upgrades to maintain its functionality. Kani nga bisyo labad jud kaayo ni sa ulo pero eventhough it's a pain in the A$$, we still love what we do.

[jdmaspack]

Being in the local car scene for so long , I can now easily distinguish a boy racer from a true enthusiast. I’ve seen countless cars ruined by a car culture that they don’t seem to understand. They claim it’s a Japanese influence called “JDM”. I’m talking about “Stance” and the whole “Hellaflush” thing. How did we do it right for so many years only to have it so confused as time goes on? I suppose lines are being blurred and soon absolutely everything out there influenced by the “Land of the Rising Sun” will be called “JDM.” -Lord Seno

link:
A true JDM | Cebu Business, The Freeman Sections, The Freeman | philstar.com

so, do you still think dili angay mag lowered2x sa pilipinas papa greywolf?
because you happen to be quoting an article done by a good friend of mine...

[D6045]

so, do you still think dili angay mag lowered2x sa pilipinas papa greywolf?
because you happen to be quoting an article done by a good friend of mine...

murag dili angayan mg performance sa pilipinas ky traffic HAHAHA

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basta madayun lang ni ai hehehe