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    Default For Christians(Apostle Paul Believers): Paul, the False Apostle, Ravenous Wolf Prophecy - Ngano nagpauto man mo niya??


    ****Have you read/researched about doctrines/writings/life of apostle Paul and noticed why there many contradictions in it and many unbelievable stories(specially his conversion)? Have you ever wondered why there are many Christian denominations today? I'll tell you why Paul is a murderer, a pharisee, a liar, a false apostle, a divider of the church(with his dangerous doctrine).

    First let's read about the prophecy of the tribe of Benjamin / ravenous wolves in Genesis/Matthew.

    Genesis 49 27 Benjamin is a ravenous wolf;
    in the morning he devours the prey,
    in the evening he divides the plunder.

    Matthew 7 15-20 “Watch out for false prophets(or false teachers). They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious(or ravenous) wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    So why was "ravenous wolf" term used here by both.

    ****First read this >>> Why Dogs Can Be Tamed But Wolves Cannot. In short a wolf cannot be tamed. What he was in the beginning is what he will be in the end(still ravenous).

    Now who is from the tribe of Benjamin? Who is the ravenous wolf - who will at first(in the morning) devours the prey, next(in the evening) divides the plunder?

    Rom 11:1
    I say then, Elohiym has not cast away His people. Because I am also an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, OF THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN.

    Philippians 3: 5
    Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

    ****Now we already know for sure that Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin. We also know that Paul was persecutor of the saints/apostles then after that a miraculous change happened after seeing light from heaven who claims to be Jesus.

    Now let's if see this fits:
    In the morning devours the prey, in the evening divides the plunder. [In the morning] = [Before or First], [In the evening] = [After or Last], [devours the prey] = [a killer or a murderer or a persecutor], [divide the spoil] = [divide the loot/church/people/christians].

    ****No doubt this verse talks about Paul. He was a persecutor of the saints at before, and after he divided the people.(see how many Christian denominations today ex. Paulinian messianic Jew/ Anti-Paul messianic Jew, Roman Catholic, Protestant, many more...). He never changed his ways but only changed his image(remember wolf in sheep's clothing..awoooo!).

    Now on Paul's Conversion:

    Acts of the Apostles 9
    Suddenly, while he was traveling to Damascus and just before he reached the city, there came a light from heaven all around him. He fell to the ground, and then he heard a voice saying, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?" "Who are you, Lord?" he asked, and the voice answered, "I am Jesus, and you are persecuting me. Get up now and go into the city, and you will be told what you have to do." The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless, for though they had heard the voice they could see no one. Saul got up from the ground, but even with his eyes wide open he could see nothing at all, and they had to lead him into Damascus by the hand. For three days he was without his sight, and took neither food nor drink.

    ****His conversion is unique but suspicious. What did the Timothy say/warn about Paul while he was with him.

    2 Corinthians 11 13-15
    For such people are false apostles,deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
    And no wonder,
    for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.


    ****Some laugh and say that this was written by Paul. But it's not true, you can determine Paul's writings because -> it is hard to understand, boastful and there are techniques used to determine it(ex. tone).

    Paul the apostle and "Timothy our brother" wrote this epistle to "the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia.
    source -> Second Epistle to the Corinthians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    People wonder why did they let Paul get along with them if they knew he was an enemy and why Peter acknowledged Paul?

    ****Remember Jesus commandment to his true Disciple/Apostles/Follower? Let's read Matthew again.

    Matthew 5: 43 -45
    Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

    Pro-Paul common stance/ usual reply:
    Look at this verse: Romans: blahx2... Philippians: blahx3.... They agree with each other's doctrine with Matthew blahx2.. and Peter blahx2..

    ****Please don't use a teaching of Paul that makes sense to solve another doctrine of his that is a lie. Remember what Paul was? -> a Pharisee -> if he was alive today, a lawyer(what do lawyers do?). Do you know how good liars lie? If not read this -> Half-truth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Picking out truths does not answer/solve/correct/fix the lies in the scriptures as he is using half-truth technique. Paul's doctrine is very dangerous - there are plenty of victims already.

    ****This verse is just an example of the dangerous doctrine of Paul(Personally I have seen many people/denomination mislead by this line/verse). There are also many other contradictions and false doctrines,you can research/google them.

    Example of Contradictions:

    Romans 10:9 Paul
    that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

    Matthew 7:21 Jesus
    "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

    More from other sites:
    Paul Contradicts Jesus
    Paul's Contradictions of Jesus

    Example of Apostle Pauls arrogance and boastfulness:(There are many - just research for it)

    1 Corinthians 15:10
    But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me.

    ****Notice Paul uses the word I more than any other apostles.

    ****Best Solution: Avoid Paul's dangerous doctrines and follow only the doctrine/commandments of Jesus.

    Psalm 19:7
    The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul; The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

    Videos(for lazies):Paul the AntiChrist
    Contradictory verses Jesus vs Paul1
    Contradictory verses Jesus vs Paul2
    The truth about Paul
    2 Peter: 15-16 Exposed!

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    Why should we believe you instead of Paul and the rest of the Church Fathers of the early Church who acknowledged Paul's teachings to be inspired by God?

    speaking of 1 Corinthians 15:10
    where you deemed Paul as boastful, i wonder what tou think the phrases "But by the grace of God I am what I am" and "yet not I, but the grace of God with me" meant..
    i think they're pretty humble, way too much humble than your claims..hehehe

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    lagot na siyang Pablo kay upao daw hehehe

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    @Aittv

    Are you a Christian bro?
    Unsa/kinsa man nga libro imong ma-suggest nga angay ipuli sa mga writings ni Apostle Paul?

    wrong timing ka bro, daghan na nuon kayong nabless/grow spiritually because of his testimony. In fact, he spilled his blood for the growth of the church. We should thankful instead nga naa tay mabasa nga kamatuoran tungod sa mga Apostles.
    Last edited by shockie; 02-18-2014 at 07:22 AM.

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    nalingaw pa ko sa wikipedia ni Paul..

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    interesting ni dah. niay palain sad sa timpla. lain sad diay inyo bible TS? or mao ra gyapon but inyo lang gidisregard ang mga sinulat ni san pablo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    Why should we believe you instead of Paul and the rest of the Church Fathers of the early Church who acknowledged Paul's teachings to be inspired by God?

    speaking of 1 Corinthians 15:10
    where you deemed Paul as boastful, i wonder what tou think the phrases "But by the grace of God I am what I am" and "yet not I, but the grace of God with me" meant..
    i think they're pretty humble, way too much humble than your claims..hehehe
    wa tingali gibasa tanan.. murag kato rang naka highlight ang gibasa

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    Why should we believe you instead of Paul and the rest of the Church Fathers of the early Church who acknowledged Paul's teachings to be inspired by God?
    Remember Jesus words?
    Matthew 7 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    If this is your logic -> follow the majority, then more likely you would be deceived/mislead. Majority does not mean it's the truth. You have to fear the Lord + study + ask for wisdom and guidance from God to know the truth. However, if you know how to retain the truth and skip the lies from Pauls doctrine, you would not be deceived.
    speaking of 1 Corinthians 15:10
    where you deemed Paul as boastful, i wonder what tou think the phrases "But by the grace of God I am what I am" and "yet not I, but the grace of God with me" meant..
    i think they're pretty humble, way too much humble than your claims..hehehe
    Is proving yourself humble? I don't think so. Guess who said these in the bible:

    "As the truth of Christ is in me, no one shall stop me from this boasting in the regions of Achaia. Why? Because I do not love you? God knows!"
    "For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy"
    "For I consider that I am not at all inferior to the most eminent apostles. Even though I am untrained in speech, yet I am not in knowledge. But we have been thoroughly manifested among you in all things."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    interesting ni dah. niay palain sad sa timpla. lain sad diay inyo bible TS? or mao ra gyapon but inyo lang gidisregard ang mga sinulat ni san pablo?
    Pwede man nimo dili e disregard ang doctrine ni Paul kung kabalo muiwas sa mga bakak ug sa mga tinood(remember he is using Half-truth method - very dangerous/deceptive)..pero dilikado gihapon basig masipyat ka..tanawa nalang majority sa mga Christian denomination karon(ex. ginahimong negosyo ang religion when it should be free, sultian padyod ka sa ilang denomination - kung dli ka muapil sa amo muad2 ka sa impyerno or sure mi muadto sa heaven na church!, etc.)

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    @Aittv bantay mohilak napud ka kong ma close ni nga thread hap....violation man ni under forum rule number 2

    kana imong mga post filter man...wala nalang nimo tan-awa tong hinungdan nga nahimo siyang mensaheron ni Kristo

    gikan sa iyang pagkabuta...hangtud naabot siya sa mga tinu-an ni kristo para maayo siya pagka toytoy

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