Audiophile Thread!

[donkeanu]

HD650 - Dark/Veiled Sound?

Got over 300 hours now on the HD650 and after knowing that the drivers has been burn-in more than adequately, i took the time to listen attentively to just how the HD650 sounds.

The gain/bass/treble settings on the E07K amp was all set at zero eq, stock cable was used.
Where is the dark & veiled sound that people are talking about the HD650?
I find the sound neutral and not dark or veiled at all.
Perhaps shall i say a little bit laid back as i could listen for like over 2 hours without feeling any fatigue. But certainly not veiled or dark sounding.
Is it just me and my ears are tricking me?

Additionally everyone was saying that the HD650 is hard to drive and requires a decent amp.
The other day i run it direct from my notebook without any amping.
Today i upgraded the firmware of the X3 DAP and used it as a DAC from the notebook into the HD650.
Everything looks fine and the HD650 easy to drive.

What gives?
Is my HD650 made in Timbuktu and not in Ireland.

Guys who have listened to the HD650, how would you describe the sound and presentation of the HD650?
The HD650 has been with me since Oct 28, 2013.

ul be very happy sir if your hd650 will be paired with my burson ha-160...

[korg17]

HD650 - Dark/Veiled Sound?

Got over 300 hours now on the HD650 and after knowing that the drivers has been burn-in more than adequately, i took the time to listen attentively to just how the HD650 sounds.

The gain/bass/treble settings on the E07K amp was all set at zero eq, stock cable was used.
Where is the dark & veiled sound that people are talking about the HD650?
I find the sound neutral and not dark or veiled at all.
Perhaps shall i say a little bit laid back as i could listen for like over 2 hours without feeling any fatigue. But certainly not veiled or dark sounding.
Is it just me and my ears are tricking me?

Additionally everyone was saying that the HD650 is hard to drive and requires a decent amp.
The other day i run it direct from my notebook without any amping.
Today i upgraded the firmware of the X3 DAP and used it as a DAC from the notebook into the HD650.
Everything looks fine and the HD650 easy to drive.

What gives?
Is my HD650 made in Timbuktu and not in Ireland.

Guys who have listened to the HD650, how would you describe the sound and presentation of the HD650?
The HD650 has been with me since Oct 28, 2013.

perfect example of why an actual audition trumps any 3rd-person review. we do have different tastes and preferences.

in my case, i do find it dark compared to the lively HD600 but i haven't really tried it that long compared to yours since you have already owned it.

Since your are just driving it using the E07k, why not get a much better amp that the 650 deserves? @donkeanu 's Burson is one mean beast. even if its pre-owned and now discontinued, im still drooling over it. i just don't have the budget right now. lol

[johann1919]

I listen music in my room

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those two are different...
ATH M50 is a closed-back headphone while the HD598 is an open-back headphone...
are you listening more music on your room or on-the-go?

I listen music in my room

[donkeanu]

I listen music in my room

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I listen music in my room

honestly, i haven't tried both those cans...
but based on reviews, i would go with the hd598 though u'll need an amp to have the full potential of it...

[lespaulibanez]

ul be very happy sir if your hd650 will be paired with my Burson ha-160...

Hey man! You've got an HD650 too right? Are you telling me you aren't happy with it paired with the Burson?
Let me guess, since you're going portable, would the "balance" thing not be far behind? Ha ha ha.
What are your portable plans? There are only i think 3 portable balance amps makers.

I'm more into portables actually and since i already got a balance cable with a Hirose end, i could no longer set my sights on other options.

Also i'm not receiving any 13th month pay nor any bonus.
But i know your Burson will go to the right hands, likely here in Cebu. Ha ha ha.

[lespaulibanez]

perfect example of why an actual audition trumps any 3rd-person review. we do have different tastes and preferences.

in my case, i do find it dark compared to the lively HD600 but i haven't really tried it that long compared to yours since you have already owned it.

Since your are just driving it using the E07k, why not get a much better amp that the 650 deserves? @donkeanu 's Burson is one mean beast. even if its pre-owned and now discontinued, im still drooling over it. i just don't have the budget right now. lol

Not really about preferences or taste but it's really not dark to me.
It would be dark when i set the treble at -2 on the amp.
Or perhaps i just lack more details of comparison since i haven't tried it on a decent amp.
But amp or without, it's not dark either on just the notebook and the X3 set on DAC .
i did not audition the HD650 either as i ordered it online from Moon Audio t/w the BDV3 cable.
Make no mistake, i love the sound of the HD650 as i am hearing it.

I think you should get the Burson of donkeanu. Donkeanu i think would accept layaway plan. ha ha ha ...

Too bad my mind is set on the PB2 & perhaps DB2 as i already have the balanced cable.

[korg17]

Too bad my mind is set on the PB2 & perhaps DB2 as i already have the balanced cable.

Have you checked out the Centrance Hifi M8 or the Cypher Labs Theorem 720? they are both portable amp+dac in 1 and at the same price range as those iBassos combined, less weight and and less device in your stack to carry. check out the reviews at head-fi, they are all the rage in portables these days

[lespaulibanez]

Have you checked out the Centrance Hifi M8 or the Cypher Labs Theorem 720? they are both portable amp+dac in 1 and at the same price range as those iBassos combined, less weight and and less device in your stack to carry. check out the reviews at head-fi, they are all the rage in portables these days

Got no other choice actually unless i will replace the connectors which i already have on the BDV3 cable.
Besides, i am interested on the opamp rolling . It is something new to me

[korg17]

Got no other choice actually unless i will replace the connectors which i already have on the BDV3 cable.
Besides, i am interested on the opamp rolling . It is something new to me

those are balanced too

btw that opamp rolling kit from ibasso looks cool

[johann1919]

honestly, i haven't tried both those cans...
but based on reviews, i would go with the hd598 though u'll need an amp to have the full potential of it...

okay thank you so much for the help sir