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    bark up the wrong tree...hehhehe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Someone who cuddles a bigtime criminal will be treated like one. I don't blame Clavio. If i have the chance I will do the same. Good thing Kapunan decided to resign or else her career is facked up.

    It may sound rude but Napoles and everyone protecting her should be treated state enemies and deserved to be treated like pigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by immersiondepth View Post
    seems atty did not have the definite info that arnold want to extract from the interview...and this is what pissed clavio off, "wala akong nakuha sa'yo"...although i agree that the interview should have been handled differently...
    Atty Villamor could not give him any info about the PDAF because he is not the lawyer for that case. It will be a violation on his end. As per Clavio's opening statement, it will be for the "serious illegal detention case" then why would he fish on PDAF?

    The lawyer answered him accordingly but it looks like Clavio does not have any idea on court proceedings or legal procedural matters. (His bad!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Someone who cuddles a bigtime criminal will be treated like one. I don't blame Clavio. If i have the chance I will do the same. Good thing Kapunan decided to resign or else her career is facked up.

    It may sound rude but Napoles and everyone protecting her should be treated state enemies and deserved to be treated like pigs.
    lahi sad ni imuha bay... atong subject dri is about ARNOLD CLAVIO as a reporter, dili about kinsa ang gidepensaan adtong abogado... unprofessional kaayu xa, naa kas public unya ingon ana ka,,, kita bakas laing news sa ubang nasod na ingon ani ka barbaric? tsk tsk.... hahay. mga savages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Comparing a nurse to a lawyer is like comparing black from white. What we want is justice. I don' t think a nurse can give us justice. A good lawyer can win a case using technicalities although the evidences are very strong.
    it's not actually a bad analogy because the point there is that they are both performing their duties and not about "giving justice."

    and why is it that a lawyer can use your so called "technicalities?" because of the laws created by flawed "representathieves/representatives" that you might have voted for as well. so, what can you suggest then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    If you accept the Napoles case then you condone her stealing and be prepared to be hated by everyone.
    Am afraid it does not work that way Mister. lawyering is a job. if you're a lawyer with ethics, whatever the case may be and how guilty the accused is in the eyes of the general public, it should not matter. I believe you're aware of this, "a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty." ah, you heard of it but cannot totally relate to it because you're not a lawyer.

    We are a Court of Law and not of People. too bad, it may not suit your taste.

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    Accepting/Declining a case is a CHOICE(You can't be liable for a crime for declining unlike nurses if you didn't do your job so please spare us from comparing a nurse from a lawyer). Its between money and your principle.I think the lawyer is aware that he may be hated but then money smells. And this "a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty" is an overstatement prone to sympathies.

    I never voted even once in my life(someone says I voted these representatives). I don't have my hands in those stupid laws which are only good in papers.

    OnT: Just like what Kapunan said "Napoles wants someone she can control". Money can really bend a person's principle. What Clavio did is just right.
    Last edited by Nefarian; 11-06-2013 at 07:50 PM.

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    hahahaha gisapot si ARN2x wa kapugong

    miscommunication ra ni

    siguro sa kang ARN2x gusto lang niya madunggan straight na tubag

    ang abogado sakto man pero pang explain niya/ tinubagan nga mora ug way klaro, mao ang nasapotan ni ARN2x hahaha (can't blame the guy)

    sos kung si MDS ang mangutana aning abogadoha sa hearing, hilak ni ug angkla!

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    Quote Originally Posted by judge3ni View Post



    Am afraid it does not work that way Mister. lawyering is a job. if you're a lawyer with ethics, whatever the case may be and how guilty the accused is in the eyes of the general public, it should not matter. I believe you're aware of this, "a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty." ah, you heard of it but cannot totally relate to it because you're not a lawyer.

    We are a Court of Law and not of People. too bad, it may not suit your taste.
    You said this "a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty."

    and then you contradict by saying "because you're not a lawyer."

    My point is you are quick to judge. I will it say it back to you like this "don't judge the book by its cover".


    OnT: Anyone who surrounds Napoles should be prepared to feel the people's hatred.
    Last edited by Nefarian; 11-06-2013 at 08:19 PM.

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    bagay ra sa hitsura ni arnold clavio ang iyang batasan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    Accepting/Declining a case is a CHOICE(You can't be liable for a crime for declining unlike nurses if you didn't do your job so please spare us from comparing a nurse from a lawyer). Its between money and your principle.I think the lawyer is aware that he may be hated but then money smells. And this "a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty" is an overstatement prone to sympathies.
    On the contrary, an ethical lawyer should not decline any case. If one will use his own emotion to judge whether to accept the case or not then that lawyer has already departed from this very norm, "Court of Law and not of Man."

    To hate a lawyer defending an accused is an act of a narrow-minded person. Again, he is just doing his job. So long as that lawyer uses only the "technicalities" provided by the law and does not employ extra-judicial means then there is no reason for him to be hated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    I never voted even once in my life(someone says I voted these representatives). I don't have my hands in those stupid laws which are only good in papers.
    Inaction may be equated to favouring the majority. THat's the reason why it's the worst sin in Dante's Inferno.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    OnT: Just like what Kapunan said "Napoles wants someone she can control". Money can really bend a person's principle. What Clavio did is just right.
    what then are you trying to say? if lawyering for Napoles is "all about the money" then she should not get any lawyer at all? she should not undergo a trial? well, you wish! I wish, too! That she will just go directly to jail and all her assets will be liquidated in favour of the people. But that's not the case.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nefarian View Post
    You said this "a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty."

    and then you contradict by saying "because you're not a lawyer."

    My point is you are quick to judge. I will it say it back to you like this "don't judge the book by its cover".


    OnT: Anyone who surrounds Napoles should be prepared to feel the people's hatred.
    what's the relationship of the two you are trying to connect?

    you want me to presume that you are a lawyer until proven otherwise?hahaha

    lau na kau ta sa topic.

    i just picked up the nurse-lawyer analogy and pointed what the person tried to say. i did not start it. however, you seem to make a lot out of it. you might wanna stay on the premise. believe me, i understand what you're trying to say. at times, i have the same sentiments too.


    ***with everything said, I still stick to my point that Clavio acted unprofessionally as a media person. He has some rights but he should exercise those RESPONSIBLY. [with great power comes great responsiblity. ]

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