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    a dedicated card is always better bro, even if A10 pa na cya.

    just my thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simoko View Post
    bro...below is a synthetic benchmark sa AMD pc sa akong amigo A8-5600K/Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H...gamitan nako ug Crucial Elite 16GB DDR3-1866...try kuno run aning 3DMark sa imong dualcore Intel w/ GT630 para naa kai some point of comparison...my unsolicited advise: kung naa kai plano mag AMD...ayaw nalang...stay w/ Intel...

    AMD Radeon HD 7560D video card benchmark result - AMD A8-5600K,Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. F2A85X-D3H
    I'll try this evening sir and a really BIG thanks sa imo inputs.
    pero for the comparison, its a bit unfair kay dual chanel 16gb ddr3 then ssd pa gyud then ang ako kay ordinary hdd then single chanel 4gb
    test ko unya...

    ang ako lang sir kay mura man gud maka'save' ka sa budget if AMD Ax imo gamiton against Intel + 'mid end' VC

    pwede ka maka hatag ug uban pang detalye sir bahin sa imo gi-ingon nga: "my unsolicited advise: kung naa kai plano mag AMD...ayaw nalang...stay w/ Intel..."

    salamat

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmike View Post
    a dedicated card is always better bro, even if A10 pa na cya.

    just my thought.
    yeah, I know also that having a dedicated card is way better, just curious lang.

    anyways, malupig ba ang dual sandy + gt630 vs A10? just in terms of gameplay?

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    bro...in terms of work done per clock cycle Intel is always better than AMD...so comparing dualcore or quadcore processors from Intel and AMD running at the same clockspeed...much faster gyud ang Intel...

    no question mas barato tuod ang AMD per se...but dili gyud nimo sila ma equate...labi na sa issue on "savings" vis-a-vis performance...

    its really a question of asa ka malipay...and where your pockets take you...

    I rest my case your honor...dili nata mag lalis aning Intel vs AMD kai walai kahomanan...

  4. #14
    @ bro dab,

    mas faster ang GFX performance sa APU if faster mem modules and ipares nya... but, an intel CPU w/ discrete GPU will be faster gihapon. naa man ko'y gi post na link ani before... pangita-on to nko balik...

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by simoko View Post
    bro...in terms of work done per clock cycle Intel is always better than AMD...so comparing dualcore or quadcore processors from Intel and AMD running at the same clockspeed...much faster gyud ang Intel...

    no question mas barato tuod ang AMD per se...but dili gyud nimo sila ma equate...labi na sa issue on "savings" vis-a-vis performance...

    its really a question of asa ka malipay...and where your pockets take you...

    I rest my case your honor...dili nata mag lalis aning Intel vs AMD kai walai kahomanan...
    salamat sir, if na-a palang magpahulam nako (bisan kadiyot lang) ug A8 or A10 with mobo kay dili nako mangutana pa


    Quote Originally Posted by lloyd_joy View Post
    @ bro dab,

    mas faster ang GFX performance sa APU if faster mem modules and ipares nya... but, an intel CPU w/ discrete GPU will be faster gihapon. naa man ko'y gi post na link ani before... pangita-on to nko balik...
    ok, maytag na-a

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    @ bro dabs,

    here... naa pa to isa... wla pa ko maka kita...

    When Does Spending 50% More Become A Great Value? - Memory Scaling, AMD's Trinity APUs, And Game Performance


    AMD Richland A10-6800K APU Review | Overclockers


    Review: AMD A10-5800K Trinity: why it needs faster RAM - CPU - HEXUS.net - Page 3


    The Verdict On AMD's A8-6600K, And Surprising Revelations Testing An A10-6800K With Dual Graphics - Forbes


    AMD Dual Graphics: Good For Benchmarks, Not For Gaming - AMD Dual Graphics Analysis: Better Benchmarks; Same Experience?



    kani na page oh, ang "A10-6800K w/ DDR3 2133 MHz", goes elbow to elbow with an i3-3220 w/ a HD 6670 and an A10-6800K w/ a HD 6670 & DDR3 1866 MHz mem modules...
    Results: Tomb Raider And Metro: Last Light - AMD A10-6700 And A10-6800K Review: Richland Hits The Desktop





    at it even outpaced the other 2 set-up configuration on Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim...
    Results: F1 2012 And The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - AMD A10-6700 And A10-6800K Review: Richland Hits The Desktop





    mag depende ra gyud sa gaming titles pud ni sila... nice unta kun naa pud unta'y review sa BF 3, Far Cry 3 or Crysis 3 pud kay GPU hogs man ni na game... but naa man hinoon review sa Metro Last Light... and it showed that the configuration w/ a discrete GPU are faster compared to the A10-6800K alone w/ DDR3 2133 MHz mem modules...

    Last edited by lloyd_joy; 10-08-2013 at 11:10 AM.

  7. #17
    if tipid ang reason.

    Go AMD A10 5700 Trinity not the Llano.

    AMD A10-Series A10-5700 - AD5700OKA44HJ / AD5700OKHJBOX

    not too many intel dualcores can reach its overall performance at it's price level


    can be rivaled with ivybridge pentiums. NOT the SB G6 | G8 and IVY Pentiums cost a bit cheaper too.

    the A10 is on par with the ivy G2020 which is the slowest of the Ivy Pentiums.
    Intel Pentium G2020 vs AMD A10 5700



    Ivy Bridge (microarchitecture) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  8. #18
    @TS if mag trinity ka mas nindot if naa kay gaming ram.

  9. #19
    Ang focus sa APU is price/performance. A core i3 + an equivalent gpu to the flagship A10 may be a bit faster but for how much?

    __________________________________________________ _______________________

    Interesting article from Tom's Hardware. A review about the Piledriver architecture where the Trinity apu was based.

    Gaming


    Application


    The Pentium G2020 is no match to the slowest quad core based trinity apu which is the Athlon X4 740k ( 200 mhz slower than the A8-5600k ) on both applications and games.

    Rest of the article here:

    AMD's Piledriver And K10 CPU Architectures Face Off - Targeting Budget-Minded Enthusiasts With AMD CPUs

    __________________________________________________ ________

    Another article from Hardware Secret where the A8-5600k was pitted with the G2120.

    A8-5600K vs. Pentium G2120 CPU Review | Hardware Secrets

    the article is a no-brainer

    __________________________________________________ ______

    Lastly, you don't compare an APU based on cpu performance vs your "favored intel", but on cpu+onboard gpu performance. From that standpoint, it will bury even the fastest i7.

    __________________________________________________ _______

    @ts

    upgrading to an apu won't give you much if that is the GDDR5 version of the GT 630. Else, an A10-5800k paired with a faster ram (2133) will be faster. But you'll have to change the platform, a bit of a hassle IMO. Upgrade nalang ug vc. A GTX 650 Ti or an HD7790 will be a much significant upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sempron Guy View Post
    Ang focus sa APU is price/performance. A core i3 + an equivalent gpu to the flagship A10 may be a bit faster but for how much?

    __________________________________________________ _______________________

    Interesting article from Tom's Hardware. A review about the Piledriver architecture where the Trinity apu was based.

    Gaming


    Application


    The Pentium G2020 is no match to the slowest quad core based trinity apu which is the Athlon X4 740k ( 200 mhz slower than the A8-5600k ) on both applications and games.

    Rest of the article here:

    AMD's Piledriver And K10 CPU Architectures Face Off - Targeting Budget-Minded Enthusiasts With AMD CPUs

    __________________________________________________ ________

    Another article from Hardware Secret where the A8-5600k was pitted with the G2120.

    A8-5600K vs. Pentium G2120 CPU Review | Hardware Secrets

    the article is a no-brainer

    __________________________________________________ ______

    Lastly, you don't compare an APU based on cpu performance vs your "favored intel", but on cpu+onboard gpu performance. From that standpoint, it will bury even the fastest i7.

    __________________________________________________ _______

    @ts

    upgrading to an apu won't give you much if that is the GDDR5 version of the GT 630. Else, an A10-5800k paired with a faster ram (2133) will be faster. But you'll have to change the platform, a bit of a hassle IMO. Upgrade nalang ug vc. A GTX 650 Ti or an HD7790 will be a much significant upgrade.
    I'm not favoring intel..., one of my points was to know the equivalent of an intel G630 + GT630 VC

    so..., murag ang equivalent sa Intel G630 + GT630 VC KAY ang A10? in a rough estimate right? please correct if wrong.

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