'We tried to contact each other' - captains from both ships that collided.

[sizzlingROBOT]

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Dili siguro ma priso, most likely suspension sa license. Reasonable ra man ang argument sa TransAsia. Partly sakto sila, and partly naa pud sila sayup.

I think later na siguro ni nila i.tackle ang TransAsia and dali ra na masulbad. The investigators are giving more weight sa case between the two ships that collided.

TY vo2max.

Fail jud ang transAsia ani:

- The master of a ship at sea which is in a position to be able to provide
assistance on receiving a signal from any source that persons are in distress
at sea, is bound to proceed with all speed to their assistance

...apil ba pud kaha og ka preso or tanggalan og license ang transAsia capt ani?

[vo2max]

@sizzlingROBOT @rexter
don't mention it bros.

dili ko ganahaan mohatag og in-depth comments/opinion nako bahin aning Transasia not heeding to the call of a vessel in distress at sea. Ongoing pa man gud ang investigation.

Imho lang ni ha naay lusot ug sayon ra ni kaayo, provided the master has ...
Daghan man ingani nga mga cases nga nakalusot ang "midagan" nga barko provided the master has...

[sizzlingROBOT]

@vo2max. I don't think sharing one's opinions is a bad thing. As long as you don't violate other's point of view, we could have a very healthy and informative discussion in this thread.

You could share whatever you have in mind, just be prudent. Be careful not to step on other's thought or ego (for that matter).

Kibalo na bya ka...puro ta Males diri. If we combine all our egos, Dli ma contain diri na thread. LOL

@sizzlingROBOT @rexter
don't mention it bros.

dili ko ganahaan mohatag og in-depth comments/opinion nako bahin aning Transasia not heeding to the call of a vessel in distress at sea. Ongoing pa man gud ang investigation.

Imho lang ni ha naay lusot ug sayon ra ni kaayo, provided the master has ...
Daghan man ingani nga mga cases nga nakalusot ang "midagan" nga barko provided the master has...

[kiyoshishannen]

I hope and pray lang nga maayo ang dagan sa investigation sa atoang mga authorities. Ma implement unta ang mga plano diha nga dapit para malikayan na ing ani nga disgrasya.

[vo2max]

SBMI investigation today and statements of the 3 masters (as heard fm TV Patrol ABS-CBN report)

STA master
8:23pm at 2.6 nmiles away from sulpicio vessel, called sulpicio vessel (at inbound lane)
5 minutes later changed course to hardport

sulpicio master
8:34 2 nmiles from STA - 1st call
8:35 2nd call to STA
8:45 approached lauis ledge

transasia master
8:20 called sulpicio and ask permission to overtake
sulpicio vessel is in the inbound lane
2 min later master of sulpicio called on ch. 16 and request to change channel 12

Note: basig naa koy sayop sa copy kay paspas ang tv report. pls correct nalang ninyo

imho i stand by my previous belief - RADIO COMMUNICATION SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A COLLISION AVOIDANCE.

[H.Wolowitz]

... and the transAsia captain is blaming the sulpicio captain for the accident!

[JcBoY]

... and the transAsia captain is blaming the sulpicio captain for the accident!

Mao na! basin kini sila pa maoy hinungdan...

[mang kulas]

SOLAS V REGULATION 33 - Distress messages: Obligations and procedures

Basin mao ni inyo gipangita sa inyong mga pangutana.

Bro appreciate jud ko sa imung kakugi mubasa, pero lisod man gud sad nang BASA dagahn, lahi man jud gud ug ACTUAL
aq dili sad q bansay mu explain mao dili nlng q muexplain.

Obliged jud ang mga barko sa vicinity na mu render ug assistance sa mga vessel in distress, BUT, theres a big but. considering HER own safety due to
Daghag factors bay hatag lng kog example:

1. Weather Condition. wind/current
2. Restricted in her Availbility to Manuevere ( basin ma CHOP CHOP pa niya ang iyang recuehon sa iyang PROPS, ASTA xa KASUHAN ug apil)
3. Shallow waters. (Lisod Basin mabahura xa, asta xa MA LUNOD)
4. dili man sad gud ni xa OPENS SEA na 10 or more MILES away from shore. unya PORT pa jud, so the fastest and safest way na mka render ug assistance nila is the SHORE FACILITY like

a) Coast Guard ( Search & Rescue Team)
b) Cebu Ports AUTHORITY
c) Utilize everything na pwedi magamit sa Shore like small craft na byahe UPON, kanang OIL SPILL vessel, pwedi mana.
d) pwedi sad xa mu stand by sa layu unya launch niya ilang RESCUE/LIFEBOAT to render assistance per, NAA sad lagi xay rason, mao bita a CAPATIN is called the MASTER kay xa ang masunod, ug xay manubag unsay mahitabo. i know he has good reasons why

So ug Imbistigahan ang CAPTAIN sa Transasia, cgurado q MAO ni iyang mga REASONS, ug owedi na xang ma COUNTED. but not 100% sure na dili xa ma charge of some case.

ang pinaka the best na marender na assistance sa TRANSASIA noh kay DISTRESS RELAY... (tawag sa PORT CONTROL, COAST GUARD, OIL POLLUTION TEAM. ug ubang small CRAFTS na naa sa cebu port)

There are some things na sayon ra basahon, but lisod buhaton sa actuall or dili ma aaply sa actuall situation, mura bag ning basa ka ug MANUAL HOW TO FLY a plane,, (sayon ra kaayu ug imaginon sa huna huna ang manual na gibasa, BUT do you think ingon ana kadali ug magpalupad na jud ka ug PLANE)

ingon ana na siya na situation. we cannot judge bisag kinsa nila just by reading the rules. kay ug naa nkas actuall, dili lng na xa ang basehan)

[sizzlingROBOT]

You have a point ani, Sir.

Pero, how difficult is to call and request the passengers of TransAsia to, at least, throw life jackets and other floating gears into the water? I think sayun ra man siguro ni buhaton unless maghuna2x sila na, ma.usik ila lifejackets.

Bro appreciate jud ko sa imung kakugi mubasa, pero lisod man gud sad nang BASA dagahn, lahi man jud gud ug ACTUAL
aq dili sad q bansay mu explain mao dili nlng q muexplain.

Obliged jud ang mga barko sa vicinity na mu render ug assistance sa mga vessel in distress, BUT, theres a big but. considering HER own safety due to
Daghag factors bay hatag lng kog example:

1. Weather Condition. wind/current
2. Restricted in her Availbility to Manuevere ( basin ma CHOP CHOP pa niya ang iyang recuehon sa iyang PROPS, ASTA xa KASUHAN ug apil)
3. Shallow waters. (Lisod Basin mabahura xa, asta xa MA LUNOD)
4. dili man sad gud ni xa OPENS SEA na 10 or more MILES away from shore. unya PORT pa jud, so the fastest and safest way na mka render ug assistance nila is the SHORE FACILITY like

a) Coast Guard ( Search & Rescue Team)
b) Cebu Ports AUTHORITY
c) Utilize everything na pwedi magamit sa Shore like small craft na byahe UPON, kanang OIL SPILL vessel, pwedi mana.
d) pwedi sad xa mu stand by sa layu unya launch niya ilang RESCUE/LIFEBOAT to render assistance per, NAA sad lagi xay rason, mao bita a CAPATIN is called the MASTER kay xa ang masunod, ug xay manubag unsay mahitabo. i know he has good reasons why

So ug Imbistigahan ang CAPTAIN sa Transasia, cgurado q MAO ni iyang mga REASONS, ug owedi na xang ma COUNTED. but not 100% sure na dili xa ma charge of some case.

ang pinaka the best na marender na assistance sa TRANSASIA noh kay DISTRESS RELAY... (tawag sa PORT CONTROL, COAST GUARD, OIL POLLUTION TEAM. ug ubang small CRAFTS na naa sa cebu port)

There are some things na sayon ra basahon, but lisod buhaton sa actuall or dili ma aaply sa actuall situation, mura bag ning basa ka ug MANUAL HOW TO FLY a plane,, (sayon ra kaayu ug imaginon sa huna huna ang manual na gibasa, BUT do you think ingon ana kadali ug magpalupad na jud ka ug PLANE)

ingon ana na siya na situation. we cannot judge bisag kinsa nila just by reading the rules. kay ug naa nkas actuall, dili lng na xa ang basehan)

[mang kulas]

You have a point ani, Sir.

Pero, how difficult is to call and request the passengers of TransAsia to, at least, throw life jackets and other floating gears into the water? I think sayun ra man siguro ni buhaton unless maghuna2x sila na, ma.usik ila lifejackets.

Depende na bro kung pilay gilay.on nila pag hitabo sa incident.. kung 1 mile away na cla, aw! imposible na kaayu nang manlabay silag lifejacket, unya dili man sad ingon ana ka sayon na pa uturn ang parko ug dili sad na basta basta mudool kay basin ma CHOP CHOP iniya ang mga survivors sa propeller kay musuyop raba jud na.

Daghan bro, daghan kaayung reason ang MASTEr