'We tried to contact each other' - captains from both ships that collided.

[vo2max]

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Speed? yes... naa gamay, pero all vessels using the TSS (traffic separation scheme) are required to have safe speed.. bisan pag 5 knots ilang dagan... ang imung basehan bay kung PILA katonelada ang barko

lets say 10,000 gross tons ang isa, ang isa pud 10,000tons... bisan pag teg 5 knots rana ilang dagan = relative speed 10 kts= 18 km/hr.....
ug mag bangga na bay imagina 10,000 tons collide with 10,000 tons sa speed na 18km/hrs

sus!!! mura nag lata sa coke na giyatakan

I am not seeing it that way.
I was basing about the speed on the linked rule that you have provided.

My understanding is that reducing the ship speed would allow more time for each of the captains to assess the situation.
If one's ship/vehicle is running faster than what one's brain can process on a given situation then you are courting disaster.
That is precisely what your linked rule implies. It has nothing to do with gross tonnages or how big the ship is.

Reduce speed or take the way off the water to allow more time to assess the situation.

I agree that the bigger the mass, the bigger the damage would be at a given speed.
However the crash ratio would be also higher if the speed is also greater.

Legally speaking if they did not reduce their speed, it makes it easy for the investigators to find faults.

[kit_cebu]

here you guys go again...............

[mang kulas]

^^ If it's that simple then I hope mao na buhaton sa investigators.

Dali ra jud kaayu na bay,
ang mag padugay ana bay, ug ang magpatigbabaw ana ang KWARTA man bay...

xempre kung kinsa toy sad.an dili man kakuhag insurance, unya sila pajuy mutubag sa mga biktima,,, unya ang 2 ka tag.iya puros man kwartahan... sabot sabot na sila.. para PATAS2x,, tan.awa oh!!!! mark my word... mwala raning isyuha after pila ka weeks...

bay dri sa ATO KWARTA ang kinabuhi... they dont care about others lives...

[maxwell80]

paita aning mga pangutanaha uy! BROAD lagi kaayu ang MARITIME INDUSTRY bro....

basa basa sa beh kanang

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A POWER DRIVEN Vessel UNDERWAY shall exhibit a,b,& c only....


(a) "Masthead light" means a white light placed over the fore and aft centerline of the vessel showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 225 degrees and so fixed as to show the light from right ahead to 22.5 degrees abaft the beam on either side of the vessel, except that on a vessel of less than 12 meters in length the masthead light shall be placed as nearly as practicable to the fore and aft centerline of the vessel.

(b) "Sidelights" means a green light on the starboard side and a red light on the port side each showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 112.5 degrees and so fixed as to show the light from right ahead to 22.5 degrees abaft the beam on its respective side. In a vessel of less than 20 meters in length the sidelights may be combined in one lantern carried on the fore and aft centerline of the vessel, except that on a vessel of less than 12 meters in length the sidelights when combined in one lantern shall be placed as nearly as practicable to the fore and aft centerline of the vessel.

(c) "Sternlight" means a white light placed as nearly as practicable at the stern showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 135 degrees and so fixed as to show the light 67.5 degrees from right aft on each side of the vessel.

kung wala mu kasabot ayaw nlag sabta kay mutaas ang thread that will lead to questions na lagpas na kaayu hangtod ma CLOSED

ot : mang kulas, palihug mi ug tabang sa authority nga nag imbistiga ani bi, para masulbad dayon ni.

kinahanglang kaayo imong expertise ani para dali ra masulbad kung kinsa jud sad an.

kabaw na mi expert kaayo ka wala na makiglalis nmo.

[vo2max]

Sometimes it makes me ponder that the process of communication could contribute to the collision.
Communication can be advantageous if it is done at the right time when the vessel was at a safe distance; say more than 6 kms from each other?

However it can also be a distraction if the situation is already duol na kaayo.

Why keep on calling, just act according to what the "bible" says.
Action speaks louder than words after all

[MaInEvEnT]

Dali ra jud kaayu na bay,
ang mag padugay ana bay, ug ang magpatigbabaw ana ang KWARTA man bay...

xempre kung kinsa toy sad.an dili man kakuhag insurance, unya sila pajuy mutubag sa mga biktima,,, unya ang 2 ka tag.iya puros man kwartahan... sabot sabot na sila.. para PATAS2x,, tan.awa oh!!!! mark my word... mwala raning isyuha after pila ka weeks...

bay dri sa ATO KWARTA ang kinabuhi... they dont care about others lives...

For a tragedy as massive as this one, dli pud cguro ingana ka sayon ipa hilom ni na issue na wla la'y mahitabo.. but we'll see.

[mang kulas]

ot : mang kulas, palihug mi ug tabang sa authority nga nag imbistiga ani bi, para masulbad dayon ni.

kinahanglang kaayo imong expertise ani para dali ra masulbad kung kinsa jud sad an.

kabaw na mi expert kaayo ka wala na makiglalis nmo.

aw! ning explain raman q bay, kay naa man guy pangutana sad ba na lagpas kaayu, hehehe parehas sa imuha, ayaw dayon too balita gud kay for the sake na maka balita lng na sila,,, kwarta kwarta ba...

Im not an expert. iam just a PROFESSIONAL SEAFARER...

[Renz8]

They contact each other but both claim wala jud respond someone just lied or both of them did.....but to the credit of the 2GO Capt. he has the right of passage...........

[vo2max]

They contact each other but both claim wala jud respond someone just lied or both of them did.....but to the credit of the 2GO Capt. he has the right of passage...........

Interesting comment.
Ngano nakaingon man ka naa siyay right of passage?

[darsmith13]

if tnuod man gani nga ni try clag communicate, basin jud ug pareha sa gi ingon ni kulas, GMA ang isa ABSCBN ang isa so wa gyud mag abot.. hehehe