intel i3 vs. amd f2 processor

[Sempron Guy]

but can't play bf3 xD

point is:

1.) total cost would be more expensive with the Athlon X2 since you have to add a discrete gpu
2.) total power consumption will increase also thus contradicting to your argument that the athlon X2 will consume the same power as the A4-5300
3.) who plays bf3 max out settings on a piso net? sa mga piso net ako nabisitahan online games man kasagara,
4.) BF3 is playable on an A4-5300 just a matter of adjusting settings and resolution
5.) 3 and 4 is irrelevant on the current topic being discussed
6.) just like Keropi's last post says,

[lloyd_joy]

BF3 is way2x out on a piso2x gaming rig kay most of the suki, malingaw raman sa mga common na mga games na maduwa nla sa mga piso2x... wla'y man siguro mangit'ag BF3 or any current FPS games ana nila...

i may be wrong on that statement pero, mao pud ni akoang na observed... ang mga clients na mangita'g FPS games kay ad2 gyud na sila padulong sa mga internet cafe...

for a piso2x rig, the lower the total cost of the rig and the better the game graphics it can support, the better...

[jinkazama92]

can ur decision play bf3 better?

With a discrete gpu? no problems. Of course choosing the right gpu.

Do you know of the effect on consumption smaller lithography brings to the table? If you do im sure you can understand why they are not both 65w. You should research more before attempting to rebut my post.

AMD A4-5300 Review | Benchmarks Tests Reviews

Don't forget about what the OP will have the systems be used for. Is it for gaming? or just general computing?

The a4 5300 and other A series are designed to combine graphics AND processor into a pretty effective affordable platform, but he is somewhat stuck with it once he gets it. I didnt rebut your post, i'm simply saying he has a better upgrade head room if he takes on the AM3+ path. Still a choice.

Assuming he will want the systems fully capable of gaming, the a4's onboard gpu will limit this.

Again, as i said before, if OP really wants to have low electric bills, ivy celeron or pentium still the way to go.

He can even go with a sempron and unlock it to a dual core athlon if he goes to the AM3+ path.

[Sempron Guy]

With a discrete gpu? no problems. Of course choosing the right gpu. Don't forget about what the OP will have the systems be used for. Is it for gaming? or just general computing? The a4 5300 and other A series are designed to combine graphics AND processor into a pretty effective affordable platform, but he is somewhat stuck with it once he gets it. I didnt rebut your post, i'm simply saying he has a better upgrade head room if he takes on the AM3+ path. Still a choice. Assuming he will want the systems fully capable of gaming, the a4's onboard gpu will limit this. Again, as i said before, if OP really wants to have low electric bills, ivy celeron or pentium still the way to go. He can even go with a sempron and unlock it to a dual core athlon if he goes to the AM3+ path.

Unsa nga upgrade path imo pasabot sa AM3+ bro? Puro man FX processor ang Am3+. And an FX4300 alone I think is pretty much overkill for a pesonet. If mabitin ang TS sa A4, he can always upgrade to an A10-5800k or a lesser A8-5600k.

[senpai91]

^kung negosyo kinahanglan ma maximize ang capital. nya mabawi daun. what you are stating is more costly than effective.

example lang. kana gols dako2x man jud sa cebu nya taga usc tc man ko, ang tig-iya dili mag cge upgrade. wa man guro gani upgrade nahitabo sa pila na katuig. pero what? dako kau nag kita ang tag-iya upat na ka cafe dira sa tc.

cge dili nlang a4. a6 o a8 kana nalng. quad+decent IGPU. mag ivy celeron cya na mo gasto pa cya ug gpu? nya mas dako2x noun ang consumo kay tungod nay gpu.

[keropi]

With a discrete gpu? no problems. Of course choosing the right gpu.



Don't forget about what the OP will have the systems be used for. Is it for gaming? or just general computing?

The a4 5300 and other A series are designed to combine graphics AND processor into a pretty effective affordable platform, but he is somewhat stuck with it once he gets it. I didnt rebut your post, i'm simply saying he has a better upgrade head room if he takes on the AM3+ path. Still a choice.

Assuming he will want the systems fully capable of gaming, the a4's onboard gpu will limit this.

Again, as i said before, if OP really wants to have low electric bills, ivy celeron or pentium still the way to go.

He can even go with a sempron and unlock it to a dual core athlon if he goes to the AM3+ path.

I think i no longer need to respond just to prove my point. The 2 enthusiasts above already did.

[jinkazama92]

can ur decision play bf3 better?

Unsa nga upgrade path imo pasabot sa AM3+ bro? Puro man FX processor ang Am3+. And an FX4300 alone I think is pretty much overkill for a pesonet. If mabitin ang TS sa A4, he can always upgrade to an A10-5800k or a lesser A8-5600k.

Athlon ii mu fit man sa am3+ bro. Yes he can, upgrade to the higher ones, but honestly bro the a8 and a10 gamay ra kaayu na sila ug stock perme. most of the stores akong observe. so if he decides to upgrade, like say maybe 3 years later? na pulihan na ug kaveri. But kaveri only supports fm2+.

^kung negosyo kinahanglan ma maximize ang capital. nya mabawi daun. what you are stating is more costly than effective.

example lang. kana gols dako2x man jud sa cebu nya taga usc tc man ko, ang tig-iya dili mag cge upgrade. wa man guro gani upgrade nahitabo sa pila na katuig. pero what? dako kau nag kita ang tag-iya upat na ka cafe dira sa tc.

cge dili nlang a4. a6 o a8 kana nalng. quad+decent IGPU. mag ivy celeron cya na mo gasto pa cya ug gpu? nya mas dako2x noun ang consumo kay tungod nay gpu.

Unsa diay specs sa iyang mga systems?

[senpai91]

@jinkazama92 na ngutana gani ang ts...kita nag cge tag discuss unsay angay sa specs...nya ikaw na ngutana ka sa specs?

[senpai91]

Hinumdumi pisonet. Are you willing you spend that much for a pisonet? Kay dili rani about system specs ang gistorya-an dala npud ni business. Kung wala ka ga apas imong return of investment. aw pwede kau mag AM3+ or mag Haswell Pentium + discrete gpu. Dapat tan.awn pud sa ts kung pila ang revenue makuha niya sa iyang gasto kung worthy ba.

Intel Haswell/Ivy Pentium + Discrete GPU = Good Performance
AM3+ Proc + Discrete GPU = Good Performance
A6 5400k + Decent IGPU = Acceptable Performance

Compute ta. Ako pili-on ang lowest price sa Intel ug sa AMD ha. PCX pricelist ang basehan nako ani.

Ivy Bridge G2010 = 2250php
Inno3D GT630 1GB = 2250php

A total of 4500php

Athlon II X2 250 = 1450php
Inno3D GT630 1GB = 2250php

A total of 3700php

A6 5400k = 2800php

Kung mo kwenta ta ani. Kung adto sa Intel Ivy 1700php more expensive. Kung sa AMD 1100 more expensive.

Ato ibutang 10 ka units lang usa. Kung Intel 1700 * 10 = 17,000 and AMD 1100 * 10 = 11,000Php. Sus kana nag Subra puno lang ka gamay na nakay extra 1 unit nga maka produce nimo out income. At the end of the month you get a high revenue tungod daghan2x imong units ug power saving kau kay tungod naka APU Trinity. Nya Kana pag kwenta nako CPU+GPU pana wala pana dala sa overall expense.

kung mag CPU + Discrete GPU kay dako2x imong kunsomo kay intawn GPU is one of the most if not the most power hungry component.

[jinkazama92]

Hinumdumi pisonet. Are you willing you spend that much for a pisonet? Kay dili rani about system specs ang gistorya-an dala npud ni business. Kung wala ka ga apas imong return of investment. aw pwede kau mag AM3+ or mag Haswell Pentium + discrete gpu. Dapat tan.awn pud sa ts kung pila ang revenue makuha niya sa iyang gasto kung worthy ba.

Intel Haswell/Ivy Pentium + Discrete GPU = Good Performance
AM3+ Proc + Discrete GPU = Good Performance
A6 5400k + Decent IGPU = Acceptable Performance

Compute ta. Ako pili-on ang lowest price sa Intel ug sa AMD ha. PCX pricelist ang basehan nako ani.

Ivy Bridge G2010 = 2250php
Inno3D GT630 1GB = 2250php

A total of 4500php

Athlon II X2 250 = 1450php
Inno3D GT630 1GB = 2250php

A total of 3700php

A6 5400k = 2800php

Kung mo kwenta ta ani. Kung adto sa Intel Ivy 1700php more expensive. Kung sa AMD 1100 more expensive.

Ato ibutang 10 ka units lang usa. Kung Intel 1700 * 10 = 17,000 and AMD 1100 * 10 = 11,000Php. Sus kana nag Subra puno lang ka gamay na nakay extra 1 unit nga maka produce nimo out income. At the end of the month you get a high revenue tungod daghan2x imong units ug power saving kau kay tungod naka APU Trinity. Nya Kana pag kwenta nako CPU+GPU pana wala pana dala sa overall expense.

kung mag CPU + Discrete GPU kay dako2x imong kunsomo kay intawn GPU is one of the most if not the most power hungry component.

Good call. But first lets ask op how much he's willing to spend. Just cuz it's piso2, doesnt mean it has to be ultra low end. I recommend 5570. cheaper and much more powerful than gt630.