The PH Catholic Church's best-kept secrets

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Question: Naa nabay na priso pari kay nakahimu ug kalapasan?

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nitwit;15079369]

are you just playing dumb or your just being stupid?

do you actually believe that these priests that engage themselves in such crimes will freely put themselves in public?

have you ever heard of the word discretion?

Who's the nitwit here it's not me,
did the priest put themselves in public as a gesture that they are guilty,
hmmmm, better tighten the loss screws in your head, I could hear it clanging
falling apart.

you know what? this is the problem I see with these god fearing countries, they are so engrossed in believing in their priests that anything these people do is just right for them regardless if its offensive or against the law. no wonder we cant blame why some people just have no respect to the catholic church.

Then did I say that they are right then,
wher are the asked proofs and facts that I ask,
you just coat it for being nasty, poor you, where are your proofs then,
If you assert then there should be basis, or else I could say your username really suits you.


if ill be asked by any priests to donate anything for the church I find it easier to say "no thank you, the catholic church is the worlds most riches religion there is, they don't need my money when its better off for me to give it directly to the less fortunate ones because I don't think that if I hand it to you it will be forwarded to them!"

I did not see it,
so I will not warrant what you say, you can lie of course,
and could create scenarios. Actually would not be far with the character
that you do have.


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lesser evils?are you for real? what sort of world are you living in?

if your a priest you are signing up to serve god and to teach everyone to abide god'S commandments. I am not very familiar or have memorized the entire commandments but isn't having s*x for him a big sin and molesting kids as well? and you think that's lesser evil?

Please read the bible and see if molesting is a part of the belief,
It is idiocity to state that on a institution dedicated against that.

how about ill tell you this, if you come home and found out your son's been molested by your church priest or your sister is having a sexual relationship with your town priest, how do you deal with it? or does this meant to happen to see it in your own eyes first before you start believing it? well heres the deal, if that's the case now can you blame me if I don't really believe your god exists because I don't get to see him. fair enough said isn't it?

Of course I will sue him and send him to jail,
but that is just yopur imagination,
and perhaps a figment of your hallucinations.LOL

Ah, and your an atheist,
okay, and you do not have any business whatsoever,
discussing religion for you don't even believe about it.
what an Irony.

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Question: Naa nabay na priso pari kay nakahimu ug kalapasan?

Maorag wala pa,
then question sab,
Naa tay balaod o wala?

[nitwit]

nitwit;15079369]

Who's the nitwit here it's not me,
did the priest put themselves in public as a gesture that they are guilty,
hmmmm, better tighten the loss screws in your head, I could hear it clanging
falling apart.

you know what? this is the problem I see with these god fearing countries, they are so engrossed in believing in their priests that anything these people do is just right for them regardless if its offensive or against the law. no wonder we cant blame why some people just have no respect to the catholic church.

Then did I say that they are right then,
wher are the asked proofs and facts that I ask,
you just coat it for being nasty, poor you, where are your proofs then,
If you assert then there should be basis, or else I could say your username really suits you.


if ill be asked by any priests to donate anything for the church I find it easier to say "no thank you, the catholic church is the worlds most riches religion there is, they don't need my money when its better off for me to give it directly to the less fortunate ones because I don't think that if I hand it to you it will be forwarded to them!"

I did not see it,
so I will not warrant what you say, you can lie of course,
and could create scenarios. Actually would not be far with the character
that you do have.


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lesser evils?are you for real? what sort of world are you living in?

if your a priest you are signing up to serve god and to teach everyone to abide god'S commandments. I am not very familiar or have memorized the entire commandments but isn't having s*x for him a big sin and molesting kids as well? and you think that's lesser evil?

Please read the bible and see if molesting is a part of the belief,
It is idiocity to state that on a institution dedicated against that.

how about ill tell you this, if you come home and found out your son's been molested by your church priest or your sister is having a sexual relationship with your town priest, how do you deal with it? or does this meant to happen to see it in your own eyes first before you start believing it? well heres the deal, if that's the case now can you blame me if I don't really believe your god exists because I don't get to see him. fair enough said isn't it?

Of course I will sue him and send him to jail,
but that is just yopur imagination,
and perhaps a figment of your hallucinations.LOL

Ah, and your an atheist,
okay, and you do not have any business whatsoever,
discussing religion for you don't even believe about it.
what an Irony.

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Maorag wala pa,
then question sab,
Naa tay balaod o wala?

As per request here's the facts that you've been asking...

Priest suspended on 20-year-old child abuse raps | Inquirer News

Defrocked Pinoy priest ordered extradited to US for *** abuse raps | Pinoy Abroad | GMA News Online


Philippine bishops accused of abuse cover-up | m.ucanews.com

And the list can go on and on but ill give you more facts when I get home because at the moment I'm out for my pilates class.

Now since you've judged me just because of my account name, that's actually quite funny! Do you have any idea why I put up nitwit? Because I know that most people intend to judge people just by whatever they wrote they think they know the person too well... Oh well... Here's the deal for you...

My morals far outweighs any religion there is, you probably do not know me and I intend to keep it that way because I hate to prove you wrong if you find out and make you a fool out of yourself.

If I do good, I feel good and I do bad, I feel bad and that's my religion and that's how I live.

And yes I am nitwit, nitwit enough to be making a good quid that you can't probably make in another 10 years or so and enjoy a free and good life. And yes I'm nitwit enough to say, despite what I have I always share it to the less fortunate ones and always have helped and I do it because its the right thing to do.

I just love how people like to scrutiniZe and criticise someone over their account name.now that's LOL

But you know what? Ill let you get away with it because you just proved me how you don't make any sense and no one should take you seriously.

Now you have your facts now do you think these pricks don't deserved to be punished just like how we punished our rapist or they're just too good too be punished?

[C'thulhu]

Guess this falls under the topic...

Lay leaders to Nuncio: Oust ‘immoral’ priest

by Aries C. Rufo
Posted on 06/18/2013 12:18 AM | Updated 06/20/2013 2:38 PM






MANILA, Philippines – Doing their rounds on Nov 17, 2012, patrolling police and barangay officials in Barangay Pamplona Dos in Las Piñas City observed a Hyundai car moving at a snail’s pace along Libra Street.


It was around 10:30 pm, and the patrolling group, which had grown suspicious, decided to follow the Hyundai, which stopped at a dimly lit corner of the street.


When they peered into the vehicle, they saw the driver in a tight embrace with another – a woman. The driver immediately went out of the vehicle to confront the patrolling officers.


Introducing himself as Fr Gerald “Gerry” Mascariña, the priest brusquely told the patrolling officers that he was just helping the woman with her studies. Unimpressed with the cleric’s explanation and offended by his rudeness, the patrolling officers invited Mascariña and his companion to the barangay hall.


At the barangay hall, Mascariña – the parish priest of San Roque de Alabang Parish in the neighboring city of Muntinlupa – was in a hurry to leave the place and his female companion.


He left his ID and ordered the barangay officials to “just send home” his companion.


He came back a few minutes later, to retrieve his ID from the barangay officials.


The incident was recorded in the barangay logbook and was kept under wraps for some months. Then one parishioner got hold of the incident and secured the logbook report. (Rappler has a copy of the barangay logbook report).


It was not the first time that Mascariña – also the treasurer of the Parañaque diocese under Bishop Jesse Mercado – was caught by patrolling police and barangay officials.


Nilo Natanauan, a former Parish Pastoral Council (PPC) president of San Roque de Alabang, told Rappler that he was able to talk to barangay captain Baby Villalon, who confirmed that it was the 4th time that the priest was apprehended.


The cleric was able to avoid being reported in the blotter because of Villalon’s intervention, Natanauan said. “She said Fr Mascariña was a family friend. She pleaded with the patrolling officers to let go of Fr Mascariña.”

However, the patrolling officers had had enough. When Natanauan asked the barangay officials why they decided to record the incident in the blotter this time, they replied, “Maangas at baka sila baligtarin (He was rude and they were worried he might turn the tables [on the barangay and police patrols]).”


Rappler sent emails and text messages to Mascariña to get his side of the story. We also called his personal mobile phone number several times, but our calls went unanswered. As of this posting, he has not returned our calls. When we called his parish on Monday, June 17, we were told he was attending a seminar, giving a retreat. His cellphone was also unattended.


Scandalized parishioners

On March 22 this year, 10 lay leaders led by Natanauan sent Parañaque Bishop Mercado a letter expressing their concern over the November incident. They asked for an audience with him.


“We are extremely saddened by this scandalous incident because of the negative repercussions in our parish and its parishioners,” the letter said. “We hope that you will give this your top priority before any further damage this report might bring.”


But Mercado ignored the request. (The Parañaque diocese covers the cities of Paranaque, Las Piñas, and Muntinlupa.)


A month later, on April 22, the lay leaders sent a second letter to Mercado, “reiterating our earnest request in our first letter to grant us audience to discuss this matter with you – giving it your priority – before it caused any further damage.”


This time, the parishioners also sent copies of their letter to Apostolic Nuncio Giuseppe Pinto and Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle.


The strategy worked. On May 1, Mercado, together with Monsignor Allen Aganon, met with 7 of the concerned parishioners.


Before the meeting began, they handed down to Mercado a letter asking for the removal of Mascariña as their parish priest on 3 grounds:

• the incident report that Fr Mascariña was caught in a scandalous incident inside his car with a certain girl
• his failure to set up the parish financial council in San Roque de Alabang
• his failure to activate the PPC since he assumed office there in early 2012

However, Natanauan said Mercado refused to acknowledge the letter and asked Monsignor Aganon to receive it in his behalf.


During the meeting, Mercado practically acted as counsel for Mascariña and even questioned the motive of the barangay officials, Natanauan said. Mercado told the group that he confronted Mascariña about the incident and refuted the contents of the logbook. Moreover, the bishop even praised Mascariña for showing his ID to the apprehending officers.


One parishioner, Lutgardo Regulla, a former vice president of the PPC, echoed Natanauan’s assertion that Mascariña is a chronic offender. He added that he and Natanauan personally talked with the barangay captain who had confirmed that this was the priest’s 4th encounter with barangay officials.


He also informed Mercado that Mascariña had been violating the Canon law for refusing to convene the parish financial council – which is ironic since the priest heads the Commission on Management of Resources of the Parañaque diocese.


The parishioners also decried the apparent double standard imposed by Mercado on other priests – in particular Fr Didoy Molina, who Mascariña replaced after rumors spread that he was allegedly involved with a woman. Molina has been on floating status ever since.


Protective Parañaque bishop?


In the meeting, Mercado “concluded” that there was merely “lack of communication” between the cleric and the parishioners. He assured them that he would look into the barangay incident involving Mascariña.


But the parishioners knew that Mercado would not lift a finger to investigate one of his favored priests.


Last May 13, they wrote the Papal Nuncio, complaining that Mercado “is no longer a listening bishop” and, as a result, “our community is hurting.”


Instead of appreciating their effort, the parishioners said, “We were browbeaten into admitting that our approach was wrong…even to the extent of questioning the integrity and how the [logbook] report was worded.”


The letter continued, “We are worried that his inaction on the case at bar would only further create dissension and distrust in his leadership and put his administration into serious scrutiny.”


Already, some parishioners and lectors “felt demeaned by this report and this had taken a toll on their spirituality. Now they started avoiding masses officiated by Fr Mascariña. Will Bishop Mercado and the rest of our Church authorities wait for his scenario to multiply?” they told the Nuncio.


Natanauan said Mascariña’s case had also sown dissension between the parish staff allied with the priest and lay leaders. In one incident, some parish staff wore T-shirts with the message: “Ang plastic nire-recyle, hindi inuugali, gets mo? (Plastic is recycled, and not an imbibed attitude, you get it?)” – Rappler.com

Lay leaders to Nuncio: Oust

Any updates regarding the complaint?

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As per request here's the facts that you've been asking...

Priest suspended on 20-year-old child abuse raps | Inquirer News

Defrocked Pinoy priest ordered extradited to US for *** abuse raps | Pinoy Abroad | GMA News Online


Philippine bishops accused of abuse cover-up | m.ucanews.com

And the list can go on and on but ill give you more facts when I get home because at the moment I'm out for my pilates class.

Now since you've judged me just because of my account name, that's actually quite funny! Do you have any idea why I put up nitwit? Because I know that most people intend to judge people just by whatever they wrote they think they know the person too well... Oh well... Here's the deal for you...

My morals far outweighs any religion there is, you probably do not know me and I intend to keep it that way because I hate to prove you wrong if you find out and make you a fool out of yourself.

If I do good, I feel good and I do bad, I feel bad and that's my religion and that's how I live.

And yes I am nitwit, nitwit enough to be making a good quid that you can't probably make in another 10 years or so and enjoy a free and good life. And yes I'm nitwit enough to say, despite what I have I always share it to the less fortunate ones and always have helped and I do it because its the right thing to do.

I just love how people like to scrutiniZe and criticise someone over their account name.now that's LOL

But you know what? Ill let you get away with it because you just proved me how you don't make any sense and no one should take you seriously.

Now you have your facts now do you think these pricks don't deserved to be punished just like how we punished our rapist or they're just too good too be punished?

hahaha,
if that is the case then you should not reply at all,
another nitty witty approach again, sorry my bad,I just can't help it.LOL
Hmmm, with regards to your surfing the net results,
I wish to see convictions but sad to say
all are still accusations, better luck next time.LOL

And in addition the law is still sound nowadays,
even previous presidents and entities in congress
did go to jail, how come a mundane common priest
does not?,

[nitwit]

You don't really know too much do you?

Of course you haven't heard of a convicted priest because the archbishops are covering their as$es. The Vatican is doing probably their part too to avoid scandals FYI, religion is one of the worlds biggest money making business if you haven't heard of that.

At the end of the day, you can be an ignorant all you like, keep believing at these self-righteous pr*cks sooner or later, Catholics will just be as bad as the Muslims.

Have you heard of a lawyer being convicted and sent to jail for good? Same law LOL

ill tell you what's ironic though, what's ironic is for someone like you to judge me because my username is nitwit, it is like judging an author based by his books. That's just absolute deplorable! It's like asking for an online psychiatrist to diagnose a patient's symptoms. It's absurd isn't it? For someone to criticise a person that he/she hasn't met personally.

piece of advice : attack the topic not the person.

by the way, your attitude is absolute deplorable it won't get you anywhere in this life unless you change your ways.

[noy.juan]

i sense dark force would come to close this thread soon... it starting to get hot in here...

[nitwit]

i sense dark force would come to close this thread soon... it starting to get hot in here...

The only reason this thread will be closed because some members can't help themselves but attack a member personally and start assuming as if they know the person too well to have the right to judge.

We're in a forum, you don't expect all opinions to coincide with yours, you attack their opinion not the person. The worst thing you can do to a forum member is attack them personally and make assumptions of how well you know them.

[noy.juan]

The only reason this thread will be closed because some members can't help themselves but attack a member personally and start assuming as if they know the person too well to have the right to judge.

We're in a forum, you don't expect all opinions to coincide with yours, you attack their opinion not the person. The worst thing you can do to a forum member is attack them personally and make assumptions of how well you know them.

the best way to avoid frontal confrontation with this people is to play with their words...

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You don't really know too much do you?

Of course you haven't heard of a convicted priest because the archbishops are covering their as$es. The Vatican is doing probably their part too to avoid scandals FYI, religion is one of the worlds biggest money making business if you haven't heard of that.

At the end of the day, you can be an ignorant all you like, keep believing at these self-righteous pr*cks sooner or later, Catholics will just be as bad as the Muslims.

Have you heard of a lawyer being convicted and sent to jail for good? Same law LOL

ill tell you what's ironic though, what's ironic is for someone like you to judge me because my username is nitwit, it is like judging an author based by his books. That's just absolute deplorable! It's like asking for an online psychiatrist to diagnose a patient's symptoms. It's absurd isn't it? For someone to criticise a person that he/she hasn't met personally.

piece of advice : attack the topic not the person.

by the way, your attitude is absolute deplorable it won't get you anywhere in this life unless you change your ways.

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Sorry na.