New entry level gaming card? MSI HD 7730

[Sempron Guy]

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IMO, extra VRAM does not enhance graphics in general. What you see in the game's graphic settings is what you get. An HD6870 2GB can output the same graphics quality maxxed out in bf3 the same as its 1GB variant. An HD4850 512mb outputs the same IQ as it's 1GB variant in Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Now some games, has in game graphic settings which can only be enabled once you got sufficient vram. GTA IV and Max Payne 3 are some of the examples, but that's usually anti-aliasing related and just a portion of games out there which does not implement it. Now we all know what anti-aliasing does, and it's impact in relation to VRAM. The more the VRAM, the smoother the game is once you got AA maxxed out. I personally experienced it in Medal of Honor: Warfighter. On my HD6870 1GB, I can max out the game, with full AA but I get random stutters even if I'm hovering around 50-60fps. MSI Afterburner OSD reports vram usage around 900mb+. Turned off AA and switched to FXAA and I got smooth gameplay. The point is if the game utilizes more than 1GB like Crysis 3 max out then a user with say an HD7850 1GB can pretty expect the same quality as an HD7850 2GB user. The only difference is that the HD7850 user will experience stutters. Now as for mid-end cards, useless and additional VRAM. You may be able to enable the vram related settings on Max Payne 3 with a GT 640 4GB but performance would suck cause performance would still be the same as a GT 640 with less vram.

[lloyd_joy]

^ naa ka personal study for a 1GB and 2GB GPU bro... using the same GPU? if naa, pwede ma share nmo? i'm eager to know since i don't have a personal study on this... para puno sa kaban of knowledge... hehehe... nindot man gud if naa'y personal experience or benchmark an ma share pud... puno sa write up sa net... wala man lagi ko magamit diri na lain ug VRAM...

by the way, based sa reviews sa GTX 650 Ti Boost, there is a difference between 1GB and 2GB variants... pero, wala ko personal experience ani nila pud. maong, if naa lang ko GTX 650 1GB diri, i'll do the comparison...

basta, what the 2GB variant... the 1 GB variant can do gyud pud...

[Sempron Guy]

Naay difference performance wise, but nasayop lang siguro ko pagsabot nga more vram can add up to graphics quality nga imo giingon, But if mao na, no way nga more vram adds up to graphics quality. Mao gani extra vram was considered a marketing ploy for years. I got no write ups, but online tech reviewers has been doing comaprison reviews between cards with different vrams. Don't you think they would have added a graphics quality comparison section if it's true?

[lloyd_joy]

siguro, the old tech GPUs can not utilize more than 1GB... like the GT 630 [GF108] 2GB or 4GB variants... but for the current techs, like sa GTX 650, basin, but i'm not sure pud. kun sa GT 640, aw, no way lang gihapon siguro... i don't know the exact bench mark result... akoang Maxsun GT 640 2GB diri, wla pa nko ma test sa games... playable ra man gyud pud ni kaayo sya... pero, dili lang gyud ta mag expect na pareha sa big bro's nya... for an entry level gaming GPU, yes, it can satisfy a "budget" gamer... but must not ask for more...

for me ha, more VRAM... (kani na assumption nako... dili ni mo carry sa mga GPU na dili maka kaya to process heavy 3D gaphics but nag carry sila ug more than 1GB VRAM on board)... if makaya sa GPU (chip) ang actual processing... that addtional VRAM would help on the card's performance in texture loading and its playable resolution... this would result to a higher frame rate compared to its less memory sibling... how much fps? personally, i don't know since i have no data on hand... mao ni akoang gusto'ng ma hibaw-an first hand... by playing the same game... with the same game setting (preset)... on the same PC... on the same resolution... using the same GPU (chip) but with different VRAM capacity... "I want to get hold on the hard evidence"... that is the data and its analysis...

mao lang ni akoang gusto personally, in my field of work (Semiconductor Manufacturing and IC Design) kun wala data and its analysis na i-present nako, dili maka pasar... i will not accept it... this is the thing that i was trained to do... and keeps on doing day in and day out... and i require this also to all my collegues at work... if wala data on hand, daghan kaayo "what if" na mag tuyok2x sa akoang utok...



na OT na ang discussion vs sa thread title... hehehe... mga MODS, pasyensya... na carried away sa disussion...

mga bros/ sis, healthy discussion ning atoa diri ha... let's continue sharing... nindot ni na avenue man gud... daghan ta makat unan... kita tanan, dili exempted ani... para puno ni sa atoang kaban of knowledge... ako, eager kaayo ko to learn from all of you gyud...

cheers...

[BrianBCBF]

para nq ang 2gb vram pataas, would only help a lot if e enable ang FXAA or SMAA or imng patas.an. also gamit cxa if more than 1080p resu.. but other settings sa duwa dli man mo matter... mao akng na obserbaran...

1gb vram is enough as long as ang game resu is 1080p pa ubos and dli nmo lng jud nmo e times two pataas ang FXAA or SMAA..
but inceasing FXAA or SMAA basically improves graphics since its smoothens edges sa pexels... but usually dli man nmo ma notice ni jud kng 1080p ra imng resu... so para nq wala jud gamit ang 2gb vram if 1080p resu ra imng duwaan paubos..

[BrianBCBF]

naay nindot na review ay, para jud makita ninyo deperensya sa 1gb or 2gb vram...

Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 2GB OC Edition Video Card Review - The Final Call - 1GB or 2GB on HD 7790 - Legit Reviews

[lloyd_joy]

^ nice link bro... this is what I want to know... for us, since we are just playing with 1920 x 1080 or lower, very negligible ang difference sa duha... if we would be playing above 1080p, then, we will not be buying entry to mid level gaming GPU man pud... we will be buying those high end GPUs naman w/ 2GB or more VRAM... at present, the minimum VRAM for Top tier single GPU shifted from 2GB to 3GB na... AMD started this move on the HD7950 and HD7970... while Nvidia catched up and started to use the 3GB on the GTX 780 as a standard VRAM... by the way, diri naa'y available na 3GB GTX 660 Ti, 4GB GTX 670 and 4GB GTX 680... all are factory OC'ed and it not Nvidia's reference design... so, wala ni sila labot sa Nvidia standard VRAM (reference design)...

for heavy AA, mas maka tabang ani ang bus width (current technology) pud kay the higher the better man if bus width ang concern labi na sa very high resolutions that's above 1080p...


now, let me ask for those that commented on the GTX 650 1GB nganong ingon man mo na dili sya playable sa BF3 on Ultra setting @ 1080p? can you share your experience? i had shared mine already on the 2GB ang it is very playable on the said game preset and resolution... mas taas ang fps if walay AA the VSync Off... or, basin nag compare lang mo sa benchmark values sa net and not on the actual gaming experience...