Loose Change 2nd Edition - 9/11 Conspiracy Documentary

[jessieventura]

which part is the conspiracy , which part are lies?
because as far as i know you have not presented a single truth here.

all the official reports are the lies.
even the investigators of the 9/11 commission admitted that the commission were designed to fail.
Why is that?

Still clinging to your official version of the lie eh?
thats the difference with us and you.

We know how to use our head. We question everything.

You just listen to the official report and automatically believed on them.

That is what we call willful ignorance.

[jessieventura]

In any other event, the government officials are rushing to investigate on any disasters and events like 9/11

but on 9/11 it took months until the families of the victims pressured the government to investigate the attack. it was only then that the government formed the 9/11 commission. But when clinton was humored with the *** scandal, the government was quick to investigate. And the clinton investigation budget was 4 times what was budgeted for 9/11. Why is that?
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Bush Stonewall Of 9/11 Investigation Becoming Scandal

by Randolph T. Holhut

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The Bush Sept. 11 Coverup (May 2002)
(AR) -- If you thought President Bush's "Top Gun" photo-op on the flight of the USS Abraham Lincoln was the ultimate in political opportunism, just wait until the 2004 Republican National Convention.

Next year's GOP convention will be held in New York City and it will be timed to coincide with the third anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

While aides to President Bush recently told The New York Times that they're concerned about the perception of exploiting the 9/11 attacks for political gain and that they're equally worried about the nation's continuing economic woes, they appear to have few qualms about making the 2004 election a referendum on national security.

If that is the case, why is the Bush administration so adamant against giving the nation a reasonable explanation about why the 9/11 attacks happened and what's being done to prevent a similar attack in the future?

It couldn't be that they've got something to hide now, could it?

Despite the U.S. spending close to a trillion dollars a year on its military, intelligence and law enforcement operations, 19 guys with box cutters managed to simultaneously hijack four airliners and turn those planes into missiles to kill more than 3,000 people. An intelligence and law enforcement failure of this magnitude demands an investigation.

But the Bush administration has fought hard against establishing an independent investigation into the event. When they relented last fall, once they got the right to name the chair of the investigation, they picked Henry Kissinger to lead it -- which spoke volumes about the contempt the Bush team had for the whole process.

After Kissinger stepped down and former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean -- a safe, non-boat rocking Republican -- was named as his replacement, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks was given a paltry $12 million to run its investigation -- or four times less than was spent by the Republicans to investigate Bill Clinton's *** life.

It's very clear that the Bush administration is determined to make sure the American people find out as little as possible about the events that led up to the 9/11 attacks.

According to Newsweek,
the White House has blocked the release of a more-than-800-page secret report by a joint congressional inquiry that detailed the various failures by intelligence and law enforcement agencies. They've even tried to classify items that have already appeared in public -- such as the now-infamous "Phoenix memo," written by an FBI agent in July 2001, that warned about al-Qaeda-linked operatives enrolled in flight training schools.

But even if President Bush succeeds in foiling an honest investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks, there is already enough information out there to show that little was done before the attacks.

We know now that Russian, German and Israeli intelligence agencies all picked up signals during the summer of 2001 that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were up to something big. And on Aug. 6, 2001, President Bush received a memo entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." It suggested that al-Qaeda forces were planning to hijack airliners sometime soon.

We also know that prior to Sept. 11, 2001, the Bush administration did not take the threat of al-Qaeda seriously. It ignored warnings by the outgoing Clinton administration that al-Qaeda would be the single most important national security matter they would be dealing with.

Then there are the nagging questions that still are hanging out there.
For starters, why did the Air Force fail to send its interceptors into action after it was learned that four airliners were hijacked?

How did the FBI know the identities of the hijackers within a day of the attacks?

Why was President Bush sitting in a Florida elementary school classroom, pretending that nothing was wrong, when he he'd learned the first jet had crashed into the World Trade Center before he entered the school?

The Center for Cooperative Research has an < a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.net/timeline/main/essayaninterestingday.html" target = "_top">exhaustively annotated and sourced timeline of President Bush's Sept. 11 activities that's worth checking out. In the months before and after the Sept. 11 attack, the Bush administration has been more interested in political power and economic gain than in combating terrorism. And the same folks that lied to us to justify the necessity of going to war with Iraq are trying to make sure we don't ever find out the truth about what happened on Sept. 11, 2001.

This is starting to go beyond mere cynical political manipulation to keep the Republicans in power. This is a cover-up of epic proportions of an event that was the catalyst for unprecedented changes in our foreign policy, unprecedented assaults on our civil liberties and an unprecedented transformation of a democratic republic into a imperial power.

It's time to stop the stonewalling and the deception. The American people deserve to hear the truth about Sept. 11, and to hear about it while it can still make a difference.

[jessieventura]

And yes, if the video instructs you to lick your dog's butt, then you'd probably do it.

What a bunch of lame Conspiracist lies.

you do a lot of weird things in your life do you?
like lick dog's butt. what was it you did the last time?

Oh. It was you who said that metal burns.

No Wonder...you know nothing.
Stop doing what you are doing.
Stop licking dog's butts.

this time id like to challenge you to point out which part is the conspiracy lies.
because i doubt you can tell which is true and which is not.

I have to make a list of what you believe is true just to be clear now.

1. you believe that osama bin laden did 9/11. and he planned and did it from a cave in afghanistan.
-------but he was in and out of the hospital for kidney failure. if you search the web you will find that he was admitted by the CIA in one of the US hospital in Dubai. Bin Laden underwent treatment in July at Dubai American Hospital: reports
2. you believe 3 steel frame towers were brought down by 2 planes. yet the passport (made of paper) from one of the terrorist survive in perfect condition.
3. that you believe that pentagon was attacked with a jetliner and the whole plane, the pilot, the passengers evaporated due to the heat of the jet fuel burning. and a passport of one of the terrorist survived. Yet everything else burned leaving nothing but a hole in the wall.
4. you believe that a plane could be hijacked as easily as in 9/11 without being escorted out of US airspace or being shut down by jet fighters in just 2 minutes..
5. you believe that metal burn. That is why building 7 collapsed without being hit by a plane and without significant fires.

[bleedingboi]

you do a lot of weird things in your life do you?
like lick dog's butt. what was it you did the last time?

Oh. It was you who said that metal burns.

No Wonder...you know nothing.
Stop doing what you are doing.
Stop licking dog's butts.

this time id like to challenge you to point out which part is the conspiracy lies.
because i doubt you can tell which is true and which is not.

I have to make a list of what you believe is true just to be clear now.

1. you believe that osama bin laden did 9/11. and he planned and did it from a cave in afghanistan.
-------but he was in and out of the hospital for kidney failure. if you search the web you will find that he was admitted by the CIA in one of the US hospital in Dubai. Bin Laden underwent treatment in July at Dubai American Hospital: reports
2. you believe 3 steel frame towers were brought down by 2 planes. yet the passport (made of paper) from one of the terrorist survive in perfect condition.
3. that you believe that pentagon was attacked with a jetliner and the whole plane, the pilot, the passengers evaporated due to the heat of the jet fuel burning. and a passport of one of the terrorist survived. Yet everything else burned leaving nothing but a hole in the wall.
4. you believe that a plane could be hijacked as easily as in 9/11 without being escorted out of US airspace or being shut down by jet fighters in just 2 minutes..
5. you believe that metal burn. That is why building 7 collapsed without being hit by a plane and without significant fires.

Maypag manghatag nlang ka ug advice as swertres kung unsay mugawas ugma. Way maminaw nimu dri sa imu talltale "conspiracy views".

[zairon1988]

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OT: yep sakto swertres nalang daghan pa kag matabangan doc bisag ginagmay ang daog sa swertres kaysa kani wa tay maani.

[jessieventura]

swertres is just like your so called conspiracy theories.

the more you bet swetres the more your probabilty in winning swertres.

same with 9/11
the more the evidence the more it is probable that 9/11 was an inside job.

so ive given you enough evidence already, video, photos, still you do not get it.
if you think this way, how do you think you could win swertres?

[jessieventura]

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OT: yep sakto swertres nalang daghan pa kag matabangan doc bisag ginagmay ang daog sa swertres kaysa kani wa tay maani.

how about the truth?
isnt the truth something?

this is what is wrong with this country.

NOBODY CARES ANYMORE.

NOBODY cares for the country.
voters just sell their votes because they don't care about their country anymore.

NOBODY cares for justice anymore.
How about the lives of 3,000 people 16 of them Filipinos, who died in 9/11?

NOBODY cares for the TRUTH anymore.
They only listen to what the media says.
They do not try to think for themselves.
They only listen to what the government is saying.

I wish people should start to care. This is what this thread is all about.

[jessieventura]

a huge part of US budget is set aside to give aid to ISRAHELL
And Get this, the same people were happy about 9/11 happening.
They were even cheering as if they were enjoying the view of the twin towers going down.
Same amusement you see when someone lit up their own firecracker show.
The Five Dancing Israelis - 9/11/2001 - Our Purpose Was To Document The Event - YouTube

[zairon1988]

how about the truth?
isnt the truth something?

this is what is wrong with this country.

NOBODY CARES ANYMORE.

NOBODY cares for the country.
voters just sell their votes because they don't care about their country anymore.

NOBODY cares for justice anymore.
How about the lives of 3,000 people 16 of them Filipinos, who died in 9/11?

NOBODY cares for the TRUTH anymore.
They only listen to what the media says.
They do not try to think for themselves.
They only listen to what the government is saying.

I wish people should start to care. This is what this thread is all about.

mao lagii doc, mao ni purpose sa imong thread pag bukas sa kamatuoran, pero asa manang mga tao ron ?

busy na kay naay gbuhi ilahang kaugalingon pamilya..kung mag focus pa ta ani nga sitwasyon samot tag kagutom

ang angay ani doc adto sa mga hintungdan, motuo lagi ang uban istoryans bahin ani pero unsai mabuhat nila if motuo cla? motuo rasad ? anha rata kutob ? wa gani ta kaatiman sa tong mga problema dri toinks;

[jessieventura]

no. that is just an excuse.
you just want to stay in the sideline and do nothing.
you even attempted to discourage me here.
nothing personal but if you cant do anything then say nothing.

i on the other hand already did as much as i could.
and i will continue to do so. everytime i met people who knew nothing of 9/11 i inform them.
that to me is doing my part.
we dont need full time participation in our demand for justice.

why do you think bella ruby is out on bail.
because people forget.
why do you think erap won?
because people forget easily.
if you stop informing people then people will just forget 9/11 ever happened.

that i can not allow.