Aquino wants Arroyo, other 'big fish' jailed - report

[monroy]

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^ Huh? apil diha sa discussion Bro as long as dili karga2x o butang2x ang imo...

OnT: Mas Bogo pa man d.i ka nako bai.... Ang kaso ni Gwen ug GMA prehas na... Pulos na Plunder... Non-Bailable Offense.. Para kahibaw ka unsa na ang plunder...

Gwen was charged with Malversation of Public Funds. Arroyo was charged with Plunder. Who the hell told you they were both charged with plunder?

What is plunder and how is it committed? According to Section 2 of RA 7080, plunder is committed when a public officer who, by himself or in connivance with members of his family, relatives by affinity or consanguinity, business associates, subordinates or other persons, amasses, accumulates or acquires ill-gotten wealth through a combination or series of overt or criminal acts as described in Section 1 (d) of RA 7080 in the aggregate amount or total value of at least Fifty million pesos (P50,000,000.00). In addition, any person who participated with the said public officer in the commission of plunder shall likewise be punished.

The criminal acts described in Section 1 (d) are as follows:

1. Through misappropriation, conversion, misuse, or malversation of public funds or raids on the public treasury;

I think you're confused. Plunder can be committed through malversation of funds, but it is still a separate offense to the crime "Malversation of Public Funds". Just because it says malversation in the articles of law doesn't mean its the same thing. Malversation (bailable offense) is defined under Article 217 of the Revised Penal Code. Plunder (non-bailable) is defined by special law (the one you copy and pasted).

Why don't you post a link to an article that says Gwen was charged with Plunder? You said they are charged under the same offense, but they're not. I don't know why you are insisting on this. The information is easily verifiable. If you had done some research, then you would have spared yourself from looking like a fool.

You can also just admit now that you don't know what the f*k you're talking about because every post you make trying to cover up mistakes in your other posts only makes you seem more and more confused... It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes, alright? It's at least less embarrassing than digging yourself into a deeper hole.

I'll give you a hint why Gwen Garcia wasn't charged with plunder. The amount diverted as charged by the Ombudsman was in the amount of P49,849,200. Read what you copy and pasted and check it against the amount alleged. Hopefully, you'll see why Gwen was charged with the lesser (bailable) offense of Malversation of Public Funds instead of Plunder...

[Apollo24]

Gwen was charged with Malversation of Public Funds. Arroyo was charged with Plunder. Who the hell told you they were both charged with plunder?
I think you're confused. Plunder can be committed through malversation of funds, but it is still a separate offense to the crime "Malversation of Public Funds". Just because it says malversation in the articles of law doesn't mean its the same thing. Malversation (bailable offense) is defined under Article 217 of the Revised Penal Code. Plunder (non-bailable) is defined by special law (the one you copy and pasted).

Why don't you post a link to an article that says Gwen was charged with Plunder? You're claim, after all, is that both Arroyo and Gwen were charged with the same non-bailable offense.

You can also just admit that you don't know what the f*k you're talking about and that every post you make trying to cover up mistakes in your other posts only makes you seem more and more confused... It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes you know. It is sometimes less embarrassing than digging yourself into a deeper hole.

Gwen was charged with Malversation of Public Funds. Arroyo was charged with Plunder. Who the hell told you they were both charged with plunder?
FYI: Ang kaso na giatubang ni Gwen ang Balili na ilawom sa dagat kay malversation of Public Funds pero kung gibasa pa nimo ug tarong akong previous comment makasabot na unta ka.... Malversation of Public Funds worth 98 Million Pesos kay Plunder na... Non- Bailable Offense... Kung nagsige ka ug basa ug news nakahibaw naka asa na stage na ang kaso ni Gwen... Again Bro Prehas na ang kang Gwen ug ka GMa, Plunder ug Non-bailable offense...

Para dali masabtan nimo Bro Plunder ang tawag sa kaso sa mga Kurakot sa Gobyerno kung mosobra na sa 75 Million Pesos ang ilang giwaldas na kwarta sa Gobyerno.... Lisod ba na sabton bai ?? Kopya ko sa imong ininglish Bai ha..... It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes you know. It is sometimes less embarrassing than digging yourself into a deeper hole.....

[monroy]

FYI: Ang kaso na giatubang ni Gwen ang Balili na ilawom sa dagat kay malversation of Public Funds pero kung gibasa pa nimo ug tarong akong previous comment makasabot na unta ka.... Malversation of Public Funds worth 98 Million Pesos kay Plunder na... Non- Bailable Offense... Kung nagsige ka ug basa ug news nakahibaw naka asa na stage na ang kaso ni Gwen... Again Bro Prehas na ang kang Gwen ug ka GMa, Plunder ug Non-bailable offense...

Para dali masabtan nimo Bro Plunder ang tawag sa kaso sa mga Kurakot sa Gobyerno kung mosobra na sa 75 Million Pesos ang ilang giwaldas na kwarta sa Gobyerno.... Lisod ba na sabton bai ??

Check your facts. The ombudsman charged her for diverting funds of P49,849,200 which is below the P50,000,000 required for the charge of plunder.

So you knew all along that she wasn't charged with plunder, then you read some shit on the internet and decided to keep insisting that Arroyo and Gwen were charged with the same non-bailable offense. What the hell is wrong with you? You just don't want to admit that you're flat out wrong. Quit wasting people's time with this garbage.

You said they were charged with non-bailable offenses. You were wrong. Now STFU.

[Apollo24]

Check your facts. The ombudsman charged her for diverting funds of P49,849,200 which is below the P50,000,000 required for the charge of plunder.

So you knew all along that she wasn't charged with plunder, then you read some shit on the internet and decided to keep insisting that Arroyo and Gwen were charged with the same non-bailable offense. What the hell is wrong with you? You just don't want to admit that you're flat out wrong. Quit wasting people's time with this garbage.

You said they were charged with non-bailable offenses. You were wrong. Now STFU.

OT: Hahahahaha maayo sad ka mohimo ug imong figure Bai dah... So niuyon naka nako na sayop ka... Na ang Malversation Of Public Funds kung maabot ug 50 Million Pesos kay Plunder na.... Unsa man na kaso ni Gwen Garcia nahibaw-an na Thrilling man kaayo pra plunder?? Wala sad jud nimo gipaabot ug 50M? Kung dli ka updated ayaw tuga2x ug comment woi... Hulam ko sa imo ininglish ha... It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes you know. It is sometimes less embarrassing than digging yourself into a deeper hole...

[monroy]

OT: Hahahahaha maayo sad ka mohimo ug imong figure Bai dah... So niuyon naka nako na sayop ka... Na ang Malversation Of Public Funds kung maabot ug 50 Million Pesos kay Plunder na.... Unsa man na kaso ni Gwen Garcia nahibaw-an na Thrilling man kaayo pra plunder?? Wala sad jud nimo gipaabot ug 50M? Kung dli ka updated ayaw tuga2x ug comment woi... Hulam ko sa imo ininglish ha... It's OK to admit you're wrong sometimes you know. It is sometimes less embarrassing than digging yourself into a deeper hole...

But I'm not wrong. You said Gwen and Arroyo were charged with the same non-bailable offense. I got you to admit that Gwen was charged not with plunder, but with malversation. Malversation is a bailable offense. I don't know what about this is confusing. It's very simple. Plunder is plunder. Malversation is malversation.

You said Gwen was charged with the same non-bailable offense as Arroyo. She wasn't. She was charged with a bailable offense, that's why she was allowed to post bail and remain free.

Ang kaso ni Gwen ug GMA prehas na... Pulos na Plunder... Non-Bailable Offense..

Ang kaso na giatubang ni Gwen ang Balili na ilawom sa dagat kay malversation of Public Funds

Let's face it, you're never going to admit that you are wrong because you're a sore loser who will continue to make a fool of yourself. I'll let the other istoryans laugh at you now because it's gettin late...

[Apollo24]

But I'm not wrong. You said Gwen and Arroyo were charged with the same non-bailable offense. I got you to admit that Gwen was charged not with plunder, but with malversation. Malversation is a bailable offense. I don't know what about this is confusing. It's very simple. Plunder is plunder. Malversation is malversation.

You said Gwen was charged with the same non-bailable offense as Arroyo. She wasn't. She was charged with a bailable offense, that's why she was allowed to post bail and remain free. .

FYI: Plunder ang gitawag sa kaso ni GMA tungod kay more than 50M ang iyang giwaldas na kwarta sa Gobyerno...
Malversation of Public Funds kung below 50M kay bailable na..... Pero kung more than 50 M ang Malversation of Public Funds then Plunder na ang tawag ana.... Mao na prehas ang kaso nilang GMA ug Gwen Garcia pulos Plunder ug Non- bailable offense...... Gahia nimo kasabot bai woi....
Wala pa na mahuman ang trial sa kaso ni Gwen sa Sandiganbayan ang 2nd trial niya sked after election na mao na dugay napriso...... Naa man gud tay gitawag na Due Process... Si GMA miage sad ana.... English ra may maayo nimo bai ang panabot ubos raman kaayo...

Hulam nasad ko ani ininglish nimo bai ha....
Let's face it, you're never going to admit that you are wrong because you're a sore loser who will continue to make a fool of yourself. I'll let the other istoryans laugh at you now because it's gettin late..

[peewee_toot]

unsa man d.i imo pasabot ani sir? Mura man gud ug gusto ka na makunbikto dayon... mao na ingon ko naa pay Due Process....

so, naay posibilidad nga mahuman na lang iyang term, suspects gihapon ang mga nagbuhat ato nga krimen?

[Romeojin]

Hahahaha... Lisora pasabton nimo Romeo woi.... Nag-ingon ba d.i ko na guilty si GMA?
Tungod sa kalig-on sa ebidensya pwede sya prisohon change of mind na ron Gipriso nana siya kay non Bailable man na..
Walay contradicting ana Bro Meo.. Barugan ko na akong gisulte.... Tungod sa kalig-on sa ebidensya sa iyang kaso ni GMA pwede sya prisohon ug non Bailable Offense man na ang iyang kaso.. Mao na gipriso sya while ongoing ang trials ug nagpaabot sa final verdict.... Sabta sad ug tarong Romeo.... Asa man ako giingon Guilty si GMA mao gipriso.. Mao nay ingon nko Due Process... Himo sad ka ug istorya dah...

kung not guilty, how come magsige ka ingon corrupt si GMA mention pa ka case like Fertilizer scam wa na siya labot ana. Unsa basis anang corruption then?
gi taggaan nimo siya ug due process? innocent until proven guilty ? wala man right? you want links sa imong yawit? apil pa nato si Gwen lol.

kasabot na ka why i post this ?

pero kung GMA, walay due process. guilty diretso. dile mag-update2x sa news nadismiss na diay.

Hypocrisy

LUSOT gyud dong... it takes a lie to cover a lie.



Taggaan taka ug sample.

Ikaw gipasanglinlan ug nangawat which is bailable (by certain degree i believe), di ka kaaford ug bail. it doesnt mean "guilty" ka nor ka post bail would mean "not guilty". ang verdict sa court mao mo decide sa imong fate.

Here comes ang imong "lig-on ang ebidensya"... kinsa man mo decide na lig-on ang evidence ? di ba ang korte? unsaon pagkahibaw na lig-on na in the first place wa pa nag start ang hearing alangan pud ang imong lawyer mo-concur na lang na lig-on ang evidences against nimo
hikog nalang ka ana.

mo-ingon ka lig-on kay mao man gyud sulti sa prosecutors. ma contradict gihapon na sa GMA's lawyer... like ang "lig-on na evidence" is "hearsay evidence" hahahaha.

[Romeojin]

Prehas lang no ni Romeojin buhatan ko ninyo ug istorya... Gi Challenge ta mong duha i post dre ang akong comment na Gipriso si GMA kay Guilty sya.... ako ingon kay gipriso si GMA kay lig-on ang ebidensya sa iyang kaso ug non-bailable offense na....

ingon ka lig-on ang evidence mao na detain kanang "non-bailable" nakuha lang nimo na sa ako RECENTLY after kapila na kita giingnan about ana.


una ko post dire , post #34 dire wa pay labot sa posts from other thread about non-bailable
sa post #45 karon pa ka nag mention ug "non bailable" pa FYI pa ka... grabe kaulahi lol.


kanang strong evidence ang court mo decide ana.... klaro man base sa prosecutor ang kanang "strong" ang defense team moingon gyud "weak" kay the truth is "hearsay" man hahaha.

[Apollo24]

^ OT: Lisora nimo pasabton Romeojin woi.. Lupig pa may bata nimo... Ayaw kaha ug apil2x istorya sa mga dagko woi....
OnT: Kanang napriso kay wala mkapyansa ug si GMA napriso kay non-bailable offense ang iya... Prehas na sila napriso while nagsige pa ang trials sa ilang kaso.... Wala kay makita na word na akong gigamit na Convicted or Guilty si GMA...... Pero gipriso sya tungod sa kalig-on sa mga ebidensiya....

Nganong nakaingon ko ana?? Tagaan ta ka ug example: Ang kang Radaza na kaso...
FYI: Daghan na process ang naagian sa ilang kaso before naabot diha, mao na lig-on na naabot diha otherwise na dismiss na sa ubos pa...

Dili ang imong gituohan na Hospital Arrest kay nagpaabot pa sa verdict.. Equivalent gihapon na sa Priso pero nagsakit2x man so mao na...

OT: Sige ta Hisgot ni GMA abe nako kahibaw naka nganong Gipriso na si GMA hangtod karon.. Tuo ka Hospital Arrest ra?
Kanang phrase na "Non-Bailable Offense" ni GMA wala kaayo na nako tagae ug attention kay abe nako nakasabot ang tanan na ang Plunder is Non-Bailable Offense... Debate pa gane mi ni Monroy ganihang kadlwon kung unsa ang Plunder... I thought na common knowlegde nana.....