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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Islam believes that God will send Jesus to fight Shaytan (Satan)

    In regards to previous post: Deeds alone wont cause you to enter paradise. Faith is most important. But in Islam, faith is made up of 1. Belief in the heart, 2. affirmation by the tongue and 3. actions of the body. They are not separate, they all make up faith.
    Agree with this defination of FAITH, very well stated.

  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    Salvation is you and your own doings,
    don't believe that you are saved believing that the crimes
    you've made is already forfeited just because you believe that it is.
    Do not try to modify belief into scapegoats of your diabolical deeds.
    If salvation is Given and a Gift - How can it be ONLY on your OWN Doings?

    How about the ONE who will Give you the Gift of Salvation? Wa gamit?

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    I am sorry if I judge your religion this way. Thus, to say that christianity is an easy religion is presumptive and a unfair judgement of those that are outside of its fold.
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    Mao Ni problema sa atung Society karun, Labi na sa Religious sector. Di mag huna huna before mu Isulti or comment, Nya Ig human na Mangayo ug Pasaylo

    General Comment ni ha

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Mao Ni problema sa atung Society karun, Labi na sa Religious sector. Di mag huna huna before mu Isulti or comment, Nya Ig human na Mangayo ug Pasaylo

    General Comment ni ha
    Siya maoy nanguna ug judge oi. Maayo gani ko kay nangayo pasaylo. Pagsure diha ba. Basabasa sa bai. Mao sa siguro ney problem sa imong society kay burag di kabalo mubasag english. Hehehe
    Last edited by %75life4Him; 05-09-2013 at 02:14 PM.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Since all men have sinned, How can a Man still be saved based on the teachings of Islam? ask forgiveness?

    Is there any amount of WORKS that a Muslim should DO in order to be saved?
    FYI sio, moslems are required to do the 5 pillars before they die to be saved. These are the following.

    1. Shahadah, profession of faith
    2. Salah, prayer
    3. Zakat, almsgiving
    4. Sawm, fasting during the holy month of Ramadan
    5 Hajj, the pilgrimage to Makkah

  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by Bears Grill View Post
    It's refreshing to see that, amidst religious fanaticism, the humble human reason can still survive.
    Is this about humility? or is it about reason? pagsure diha oi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    FYI sio, moslems are required to do the 5 pillars before they die to be saved. These are the following.

    1. Shahadah, profession of faith
    2. Salah, prayer
    3. Zakat, almsgiving
    4. Sawm, fasting during the holy month of Ramadan
    5 Hajj, the pilgrimage to Makkah
    Ok, Hajj (pilgrimage) is a pillar and yes there is great reward. A Muslim is required to do it at least once in his lifetime IF he has the financial and physical means. If he doesn't then he may appoint someone to do it on his behalf. If someone dies before going to Hajj, its ok, he had the intention in his heart and also someone can perform Hajj for him (or her).

    Zakat is only obligatory upon those who possess the minimum amount (and a savings kept for a whole lunar year). The destitute/the poor are not required to do this. They are actually the ones who have rights over our wealth. If a poor Muslim was required to do this in order to get saved, this wouldn't be fair.

    Siyam (or Sawm), again the sick don't have to do this. Pregnant women who are worried about their health and their babies health. Menstruating women. There are things they can do instead during the month of Ramadhan like feed the needy.

    I can keep going but the whole point is........

    .....that Allah doesn't want to make things difficult for us. That's why there are conditions.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Ok, Hajj (pilgrimage) is a pillar and yes there is great reward. A Muslim is required to do it at least once in his lifetime IF he has the financial and physical means. If he doesn't then he may appoint someone to do it on his behalf. If someone dies before going to Hajj, its ok, he had the intention in his heart and also someone can perform Hajj for him (or her).

    Zakat is only obligatory upon those who possess the minimum amount (and a savings kept for a whole lunar year). The destitute/the poor are not required to do this. They are actually the ones who have rights over our wealth. If a poor Muslim was required to do this in order to get saved, this wouldn't be fair.

    Siyam (or Sawm), again the sick don't have to do this. Pregnant women who are worried about their health and their babies health. Menstruating women. There are things they can do instead during the month of Ramadhan like feed the needy.

    I can keep going but the whole point is........

    .....that Allah doesn't want to make things difficult for us. That's why there are conditions.
    Are there written proofs of those conditions in Quran?

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    Ooops just saw dis:

    One question I would have to ask from you and id like you to answer. If Allah is almighty "would it then be impossible for Him to come to earth to take a human form?".

    We can take this elsewhere as it's going off topic a bit and I don't wanna get told off. Inbox or something if u really want an answer.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleza View Post
    Ooops just saw dis:

    One question I would have to ask from you and id like you to answer. If Allah is almighty "would it then be impossible for Him to come to earth to take a human form?".

    We can take this elsewhere as it's going off topic a bit and I don't wanna get told off. Inbox or something if u really want an answer.
    How can this be an off topic? This is salvation topic still.

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