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  1. #191

    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    abi ko man gud minyo naka nya ikaw tiglaba sa uniform imong asawa.....hahhah! sige bro, amping always.
    hehehe saon man kani laging probre ta nya di ka afford ug bayad sa labandera mao kita na lng mag laba2x hehehe

    salamat bro nindot gyud ning eng ani ra ato sharing bro puros kalinaw ang mo patigbabaw nindot gyud kaayo, mao man gyud ni tugn ni Jesus nato.

    John 20:21-22

    21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.

    GOD Bless bro

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    John 3:16
    16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

    Therefore say, ‘Behold, I give to him My covenant of peace;Numbers 25:12

    9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

    11 “These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another. John 15:8-18

    Im so happy both of you sir slabsdans and shockie. May God bless us all.

  3. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    hehehe saon man kani laging probre ta nya di ka afford ug bayad sa labandera mao kita na lng mag laba2x hehehe
    salamat bro nindot gyud ning eng ani ra ato sharing bro puros kalinaw ang mo patigbabaw nindot gyud kaayo, mao man gyud ni tugn ni Jesus nato.
    John 20:21-22
    21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
    GOD Bless bro
    bitaw bro, god bless

  4. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by nausicaa View Post
    John 3:16
    16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

    Therefore say, ‘Behold, I give to him My covenant of peace;Numbers 25:12

    9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

    11 “These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another. John 15:8-18

    Im so happy both of you sir slabsdans and shockie. May God bless us all.
    hala ka nice karon paman ka nishare maam uie....

  5. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    i learn from my mistakes @noy and i realize it"s enough na with contentions on topics like these. Youre right bro, God desires us to love one another....we can do that but always consider not to the point of compromise.
    so i assume that you would start reading the catechism whenever you have questions regarding Catholic Practices
    instead of jumping right up to conclusions?

    and then you would take time to visit Catholic sites for Catholic POVs?
    and you would refrain from making anti-catholic sites and POVs as your basis?

    kay di man kaha maayo ang mag compromise diba break?
    when your focus is set on one POV alone man gud, that is also another form of compromise break
    you're compromising the fact that your POV does not hold the Absolutes..
    and on top of that, you are compromising understanding, respect and love for others through legalism and fundamentalism.

    mao i asked you the question since cge man jud kag ingun namu nga wa mi kahibaw sa kamatuoran
    or sakit ang kamatuoran...Lol so gipangutana tika kung kana imung kamatuoran, sure ba jud ka
    nga mao jud na ang Kamatuoran ni Jesus? not as to how the bible stated(kay pwede man na masagolan ug personal POV) but
    in God's absolute truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    so i assume that you would start reading the catechism whenever you have questions regarding Catholic Practices
    instead of jumping right up to conclusions?

    and then you would take time to visit Catholic sites for Catholic POVs?
    and you would refrain from making anti-catholic sites and POVs as your basis?

    kay di man kaha maayo ang mag compromise diba break?
    when your focus is set on one POV alone man gud, that is also another form of compromise break
    you're compromising the fact that your POV does not hold the Absolutes..
    and on top of that, you are compromising understanding, respect and love for others through legalism and fundamentalism.

    mao i asked you the question since cge man jud kag ingun namu nga wa mi kahibaw sa kamatuoran
    or sakit ang kamatuoran...Lol so gipangutana tika kung kana imung kamatuoran, sure ba jud ka
    nga mao jud na ang Kamatuoran ni Jesus? not as to how the bible stated(kay pwede man na masagolan ug personal POV) but
    in God's absolute truth?
    @noy sorry but to be frank, id rather spend time reading the bible than memorizing/learning catholic catechism which may not help my spiritual life, its neither writings of the Apostles nor words of Jesus Christ.

    Lisud bro if you are doubtful if the bible is indeed God's written revelation of His truth to us kay pwede nato ma-consider ang hinduism,buddhism,etc as truth as well in the process. I find it hard to accept religious relativism bro in light of God's word. Jesus' claims to be the truth, it is an exclusive claim, it excludes the opposite.....either we will believe in him and trust his word or compromise with other teachings. Even God in the OT, he didnt compromise or allow his people to worship other gods or follow other teachings.

    We have different source of truth bro, whatever you said nga pwede masagulan, imoha pud na, but i trust God's word kay sya mismo nag-ingon that his word will abide forever. i dont know how you weigh your truth against it!

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    nice na bro cge basa2x lang dayon share sa verse kanang inspiring ha

  8. #198
    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    @noy sorry but to be frank, id rather spend time reading the bible than memorizing/learning catholic catechism which may not help my spiritual life, its neither writings of the Apostles nor words of Jesus Christ.
    !
    mao gani niingun ko nga whenever you have questions regarding Catholic Practices
    para mas maka G ka nganu ingun ana ang Katoliko..
    For information purposes break ba wala ko muingun for your spiritual growth or daily devotionals
    kay in the first place dili man ka Katoliko..

    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
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    Lisud bro if you are doubtful if the bible is indeed God's written revelation of His truth to us kay pwede nato ma-consider ang hinduism,buddhism,etc as truth as well in the process. I find it hard to accept religious relativism bro in light of God's word. Jesus' claims to be the truth, it is an exclusive claim, it excludes the opposite.....either we will believe in him and trust his word or compromise with other teachings. Even God in the OT, he didnt compromise or allow his people to worship other gods or follow other teachings.
    !
    kinsa may nag ingun nimu nga doubtful ko sa Bible break? kay atong ikiha..Lol
    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
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    We have different source of truth bro, whatever you said nga pwede masagulan, imoha pud na, but i trust God's word kay sya mismo nag-ingon that his word will abide forever. i dont know how you weigh your truth against it!
    kay kinsa may nag-ingun nimu nga i don't consider the Bible as God's word
    what i do not consider Godly is how you interpret some verses and use them to bash Catholicism.
    mangutana na pud ko ug balik nimu break, are you sure that How you interpret God's word is what really God had in mind?
    when you say catholics worship idols blah blah blah because the bible says so...
    are youi sure nga mao jud nay pasabut sa Ginoo ana?

  9. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    .....kay kinsa may nag-ingun nimu nga i don't consider the Bible as God's word what i do not consider Godly is how you interpret some verses and use them to bash Catholicism. mangutana na pud ko ug balik nimu break, are you sure that How you interpret God's word is what really God had in mind?
    None of us knows the mind of God mao bitaw nay purpose why there's a written word....para atong tun-an ug basihan if we are still on the right track. It is the work of the Holy Spirit bro to guide us into all truth....Coz if we say that way, how can we be sure also nga ang hinduism and other polytheists sayop nga belief?

    when you say catholics worship idols blah blah blah because the bible says so...are you sure nga mao jud nay pasabut sa Ginoo ana?
    So you mean ang Ginoo diay nagpabuhat ug mga statue/images sa mga santos para i worship or less i-venerate? klaro baya kayo ni nga verses bro bisan bata ang ipa interpret ana. Kung makasulti palang ang statuwa bro, mao sad ni ilang i-share tingali sa mga moluhod nila...

    Acts 10
    25And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

    Exodus 20
    4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:

    Ang mga katiguwangan nga religious kayo bro kung imong pangutan-on, ilang pagsabot jud nga kanang ilang patron saint, unsa pa na....mao nay makatabang/makaluwas sa ilang kahimtang. Na divert na ang true worship ngadto sa Ginoo tungod kay divided ilang kasing2.

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    EXODUS 20:2-7
    2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
    3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
    4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
    7 And the Lord said to Moses, “Go, get down! For your people whom you brought out of the land of Egypt have corrupted themselves. 8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them. They have made themselves a molded calf, and worshiped it and sacrificed to it, and said, ‘This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!’” 9 And the Lord said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and indeed it is a stiff-necked people! 10 Now therefore, let Me alone, that My wrath may burn hot against them and I may consume them. And I will make of you a great nation.”

    The Law of the Altar
    22 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘You have seen that I have talked with you from heaven. 23 You shall not make anything to be with Me—gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves. 24 An altar of earth you shall make for Me, and you shall sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings, your sheep and your oxen. In every place where I record My name I will come to you, and I will bless you. 25 And if you make Me an altar of stone, you shall not build it of hewn stone; for if you use your tool on it, you have profaned it. 26 Nor shall you go up by steps to My altar, that your nakedness may not be exposed on it.’





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    Exodus 32
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    The Gold Calf

    32 Now when the people saw that Moses delayed coming down from the mountain, the people gathered together to Aaron, and said to him, “Come, make us gods that shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.”

    2 And Aaron said to them, “Break off the golden earrings which are in the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people broke off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them to Aaron. 4 And he received the gold from their hand, and he fashioned it with an engraving tool, and made a molded calf.

    Then they said, “This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!”

    5 So when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it. And Aaron made a proclamation and said, “Tomorrow is a feast to the Lord.” 6 Then they rose early on the next day, offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

    7 And the Lord said to Moses, “Go, get down! For your people whom you brought out of the land of Egypt have corrupted themselves. 8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them. They have made themselves a molded calf, and worshiped it and sacrificed to it, and said, ‘This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!’” 9 And the Lord said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and indeed it is a stiff-necked people! 10 Now therefore, let Me alone, that My wrath may burn hot against them and I may consume them. And I will make of you a great nation.”

    11 Then Moses pleaded with the Lord his God, and said: “Lord, why does Your wrath burn hot against Your people whom You have brought out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians speak, and say, ‘He brought them out to harm them, to kill them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth’? Turn from Your fierce wrath, and relent from this harm to Your people. 13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants, to whom You swore by Your own self, and said to them, ‘I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven; and all this land that I have spoken of I give to your descendants, and they shall inherit it forever.’”[a] 14 So the Lord relented from the harm which He said He would do to His people.

    15 And Moses turned and went down from the mountain, and the two tablets of the Testimony were in his hand. The tablets were written on both sides; on the one side and on the other they were written. 16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.

    17 And when Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said to Moses, “There is a noise of war in the camp.”

    18 But he said:

    “It is not the noise of the shout of victory,
    Nor the noise of the cry of defeat,
    But the sound of singing I hear.”
    19 So it was, as soon as he came near the camp, that he saw the calf and the dancing. So Moses’ anger became hot, and he cast the tablets out of his hands and broke them at the foot of the mountain. 20 Then he took the calf which they had made, burned it in the fire, and ground it to powder; and he scattered it on the water and made the children of Israel drink it. 21 And Moses said to Aaron, “What did this people do to you that you have brought so great a sin upon them?”

    22 So Aaron said, “Do not let the anger of my lord become hot. You know the people, that they are set on evil. 23 For they said to me, ‘Make us gods that shall go before us; as for this Moses, the man who brought us out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.’ 24 And I said to them, ‘Whoever has any gold, let them break it off.’ So they gave it to me, and I cast it into the fire, and this calf came out.”

    25 Now when Moses saw that the people were unrestrained (for Aaron had not restrained them, to their shame among their enemies), 26 then Moses stood in the entrance of the camp, and said, “Whoever is on the Lord’s side—come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together to him. 27 And he said to them, “Thus says the Lord God of Israel: ‘Let every man put his sword on his side, and go in and out from entrance to entrance throughout the camp, and let every man kill his brother, every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.’” 28 So the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses. And about three thousand men of the people fell that day. 29 Then Moses said, “Consecrate yourselves today to the Lord, that He may bestow on you a blessing this day, for every man has opposed his son and his brother.”

    30 Now it came to pass on the next day that Moses said to the people, “You have committed a great sin. So now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.” 31 Then Moses returned to the Lord and said, “Oh, these people have committed a great sin, and have made for themselves a god of gold! 32 Yet now, if You will forgive their sin—but if not, I pray, blot me out of Your book which You have written.”

    33 And the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book. 34 Now therefore, go, lead the people to the place of which I have spoken to you. Behold, My Angel shall go before you. Nevertheless, in the day when I visit for punishment, I will visit punishment upon them for their sin.”

    35 So the Lord plagued the people because of what they did with the calf which Aaron made.


    Our GOD Heavenly Father is a jealous God. We must and We should obey HE's commandments. HE is able. Amen
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