The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[noy]

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ako @noy daghan pakog questions, but il respect the catholic threads na, lainon nasad nya ug sabot sa uban.....'
ive done my part.....hehhee.

so you mean you never respected this thread before diay? Lol

ok ra man ngutana break for comparison sa imung POV
prehas atong SDA nga nangutana bah, ngutana ra jud...possible nga wala to sya ni uyon sa amung tubag kay lahi pud siyag POV
ni move on ra pud siya or ning make ug follow up questions

imuha gud break kay lahi man mangutana ka to trigger a debate..
i'm not sure if you're aware of it but makita nimu sa mga result break sa imung mga threads nga gina start
they either get closed or ikaw ma ban, and dili jud mawala ang lalis
basing from the results of your actions break, can you really say that what you are doing is an act under the state of grace?

anyways, move on nata! lets start anew,

Next LEGIT question please...

[noy]

naa koi question about sa mga katoliko,

gikan ko sa bunyag sa anak sa akong migo.. did2 sa lordez church kalimot nako sa buwan pro karon to tuiga..

so naa toi murag assistant, sa pari nga nag sigi storya2x about sa iyang kinabuhi og ga sturya2x siya about sa iyang misis nga mo hilak kai gamay ra daw iya sweldo nya daghan kaau trabahoon.. nya ang uban dako sweldo gamay ra trabaho.... then while ga sigi siya sturya. sigi pud tog comment ang amigo sa akong migo iya sumay sumayon ang speaker murag yaga2x... sigi mi katawa, kai ma hulog nga walay naminaw niya, iya pa gi sulti-an tong usa kababae nga nagpabuyag og "asa man ang bana ani dai? ana ang babae:single mom ko, ang tubag pud niya "aw disgrasya diay ka"" hahaha sigi mi katawa sa luyo kai ironic kaau iyang gipang sulti compare sa iyang gipang sermon.

ning ingon to siya "kita mga katoliko, di ta magpasagol og lain tinohooan... kanang uban dira ayaw na ninyo himo-a og ninong/ninang kai dapat katoliko rapud inyong kuhaon, kanang mga lain og mga pag-too... ayaw na ninyo tiga-i og plato sa bunyag ayaw pa kan-a" blah blah blah..

na bag-ohan ko sa iyang views, kai oldschool kaau mura siyag 1700s nga tao nga di gusto og diversity in other words intolerant siya.

nya akong migo ang amahan sa bata, iya ko gi siko.. nyag ni sulti "ayg kabalaka bai, kai di ko motoo ana iyang gi sulti"

now akong question.. ang mga katoliko karon, mo too bajud mo tanan nga gi sulti sa inyong pari? inyo bajud tumanon, tanan niyang magno?
di bamo mo question sa iyang mga mag-no?

ha hulog man gud nga gi bunyagan nalang kai mao ang requirement sa society nga naai baptismal certificate. maholog nga tradition nalang, o ritual. mo make sense ba gihapon sa inyo inyong gipang buhat sa simbahan nga mag sigi og balik balik? nga naa pa gali guide nga naka laminate nga naa did2 ang tubag, kong naai i sulti sa pari nga mura og script?

anything within the sacrament of baptism bai kay mutuo ko
there's nothing wrong with having guides sa mga tubag...like sa mass or sa bunyag in your case bai
ing-ana man jud nang ritual rites. it would create a personal impact, only if you would mean the words you say during responses...

like responding amen when the priest gives you the body of Christ sa communion
saying Amen actually means you are confirming that you recieve Jesus as your Lord and savior..

kadtong gishare sa tao or pari ba to ang nagshare?anyway regarding his intolerance of other denomination is just his POV
while i'm the opposite, so obviously dili ko mobuy out atong iyang gipang storya tanan

except sa mga kadtong gi confirm sa catechism and magesterium which are based from Sacred Scriptures and Traditions all the way back to the apostles and apostolic fathers.
of course naa man jud nay opinion based nga mga teachings ang mga pari pud but i made it a habit to verify it with catechism of the RCC
if the opinion based teaching also confirms the actual teaching of the Catholic Church..

[leonell]

The universal state religion of the Roman Empire, whose existence was entirely a by product of political ambition in the pursuit of holding together the Romans and to avoid the empire's demise. 'Catholic' means 'universal' in Latin and it is no short --- the state religion of Rome, nothing more, nothing less.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

OT :

I am here in Hongkong for a business trip . I can only read messages but cant post answers as to my limited resources of time and connection using a device meant for browsing lang .

I read a lot of MOCKERY , DISCREDIT and ATTACKS towards RCC again . When I get back APRIL 30 , you know who you are .

[noy]

The universal state religion of the Roman Empire, whose existence was entirely a by product of political ambition in the pursuit of holding together the Romans and to avoid the empire's demise. 'Catholic' means 'universal' in Latin and it is no short --- the state religion of Rome, nothing more, nothing less.

The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal") comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning "about" and όλος meaning "whole".

The earliest recorded evidence of the use of the term "Catholic Church" is the Letter to the Smyrnaeans that Ignatius of Antioch wrote in about 107 to Christians in Smyrna. Exhorting Christians to remain closely united with their bishop, he wrote: "Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."

Catholic means the whole group of believers of Jesus Christ and is used to address the whole church which already existed more than 200 years before Rome embraced Christianity.

get your facts straight and further your research bro, you'll get there eventually.

this a Q and A thread, kapila na ni na violate nga thread...ayaw na intawn dungagi. Lol

[leonell]

The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal") comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning "about" and όλος meaning "whole".

The earliest recorded evidence of the use of the term "Catholic Church" is the Letter to the Smyrnaeans that Ignatius of Antioch wrote in about 107 to Christians in Smyrna. Exhorting Christians to remain closely united with their bishop, he wrote: "Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."

Catholic means the whole group of believers of Jesus Christ and is used to address the whole church which already existed more than 200 years before Rome embraced Christianity.

get your facts straight and further your research bro, you'll get there eventually.

this a Q and A thread, kapila na ni na violate nga thread...ayaw na intawn dungagi. Lol

It is still undeniable that the original intended purpose for imposing this state religion was more political than it was theological.

[newbie.86]

It is still undeniable that the original intended purpose for imposing this state religion was more political than it was theological.

Edict of Milan (issued by Constantine) -- means granting EQUAL RIGHTS to Christians and pagans alike. It is an official toleration of Christianity and other religions, meaning both of them have the same rights under Roman Law. Among the things he included:

1. He ordered that Sunday be granted the same legal rights as pagan feasts (because the Christians were already worshipping on Sunday).
2. feasts in memory of Christian martyrs be recognized
3. he outlawed the barbaric gladiatorial shows (although they persisted until the fifth century) and
4. he forbade Jews to stone to death other Jews who chose to become Christians.



He favored Christianity but NEVER imposed this faith among non-Christians to unify the Roman Empire.
It was Emperor Theodosius who made Christianity as the official state religion in 380 BC.

[EZRA]

He favored Christianity but NEVER imposed this faith among non-Christians to unify the Roman Empire.
It was Emperor Theodosius who made Christianity as the official state religion in 380 BC.

I don't know much about the Catholic faith other than the stuff I learned in Elementary and Highschool ... but you're saying Christianity was already around before Christ?

[newbie.86]

I don't know much about the Catholic faith other than the stuff I learned in Elementary and Highschool ... but you're saying Christianity was already around before Christ?

Haha.. my bad...sorry bro... should have said 380 AD, about 55 years after Constantine...

[newbie.86]

A Papal Tradition


Every time a pope is elected, there are many ancient rituals and ceremonies in accordance with tradition.

There is one tradition that few people are aware about, however. Shortly after the new pope is enthroned, the Chief Rabbi of Rome seeks an audience. He presents the pope with a silver trey bearing a velvet cushion. On the top of the cushion is an ancient shriveled parchment envelope. The pope symbolically stretches out his arm in a gesture of rejection. The chief rabbi leaves, taking the envelope with him, and does not return until the next pope is elected.

Pope Benedict XVI was intrigued by this ritual, the origins of which were unknown to him. He instructed Vatican scholars to research it but they came up with nothing. When the time came the chief rabbi arrived for his audience, the new pope faithfully enacted the ritual rejection, but when the chief rabbi turned to leave the pope called him back.

"My brother," the pope whispered, "I have to admit that we are ignorant of the meaning of the ritual repeated for centuries with the representative of the Jewish people. I have to ask, what is it all about?"

The chief rabbi shrugged and replied, "We have no more idea that you. The origin of the ceremony is lost in the mists of history."

The pope said, "Let us retire to my private chambers and enjoy a glass of wine together. Then, with your agreement, we shall open the envelope and discover it's secret at last." The chief rabbi agreed. He was just as curious as the pope.

When they were alone, the pope gingerly pried open the parchement envelope with trembling fingers, the chief rabbi removed a folded sheet of ancient paper. It was written in ancient Aramaic.

"What does it say?" the pope asked.











"It's a bill for the Last Supper," replied the rabbi.