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  1. #5721

    when ang birthday ni St. Peter? the first pope..

    hehehehe

    gi wagtang na ang gunit kamot to ease up probability to SIn and Sickness

    like gkan d i sa CR imong tapad, wa nanghugas ug kamot or gkan ka kuot.....

    ug sinselyo then mugunit sa kamot sa imong tupad nga naa baby gigunitan..

    sin,as u mentioned..it either makes u lustful and opportunistic or disgusted and judging imong gikuptan sa kamot.

  2. #5722
    Quote Originally Posted by butitoy View Post
    when ang birthday ni St. Peter? the first pope..

    hehehehe

    gi wagtang na ang gunit kamot to ease up probability to SIn and Sickness

    like gkan d i sa CR imong tapad, wa nanghugas ug kamot or gkan ka kuot.....

    ug sinselyo then mugunit sa kamot sa imong tupad nga naa baby gigunitan..

    sin,as u mentioned..it either makes u lustful and opportunistic or disgusted and judging imong gikuptan sa kamot.

    i believe the holding of hands was never instituted by the Vatican but rather a personal expression of the Faithful
    as a physical gesture of unity among the church.. so there's no reason nga walaon kay it was never official in the first place.

    kaso kasagaran nato kay sunod-sunoron kaayo...
    wa ko kahibaw ug asa na gasugod ang holding of hands during the our father prayer
    i believe it has both positive and negative attributes
    i believe i've mentioned some of the positive ones in my earlier post.

    kung naay malisyoso masagol...aw siya nay motubag sa Ginoo ana
    for sanitary reasons, accountability and responsibility lang jud.

    however the goal is that everything we do whenever we attend the Holy mass and most especially when we're not
    we glorify God and express our love for another..


    anyways, wala man cguroy kahibaw jud sa exact birthday ni San Pedo brad.

  3. #5723
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    the Holy Mass though in sequence or somewhat choreographed, i don't see anything wrong with it though
    for the reason that everything in the Holy Mass focuses on the Glory of God through His Son Jesus.
    if one would see it this way, the Holy Mass is the complete act of worship, provided that one does everything by heart.

    please refer to the order of the mass with each of its part
    Order of Mass: Basic Texts for the Roman Catholic Eucharist

    kanang magdupa2x sa misa bai, most probably myembro na cla sa atong gitawag ug Charismatic groups...
    oriented na sila sa pagdayeg sa Ginoo pinaagi sa pagpataas sa mga kamot. hehehe..
    i don't see anything wrong with it either as it is the person's expression of faith which is personal.

    or basin healing mass to imung naapilan or misa nga nag organize kay Catholic Charismatic Community.

    holding of hands really is a sign of unity among the Church, and yes mas nindut kung gwapa imung tupad Lol
    seriously, there was a time when we visited my wife's province in Mindanao
    we attended a Mass where people hold hands in praying the "Our Father" i felt the unity among the congregetation
    nga maski pag wala kaila akong tupad nako, gigunitan niya akong kamot..
    dayun pag peace be with you, wala lang ning bow ang mga tao sa palibut, but really shook hands and tapped the shoulders of the people around them..so i opted to do the same...and it felt good..
    so a little exageration wouldn't really hurt, especially if it is done under the state of grace.
    ge lang noy.. total seldom na man ko musimba karon. maglisod ko sa akong kunsensya inig abot sa parte sa Lord's Prayer. Naa man gud mga tawo nga dako kaayo ug atraso sa ako .. ug dili gyud nako sila mapasaylo. .. wala man pud gani sila mangayo ug pasaylo hinuon.

  4. #5724
    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    ge lang noy.. total seldom na man ko musimba karon. maglisod ko sa akong kunsensya inig abot sa parte sa Lord's Prayer. Naa man gud mga tawo nga dako kaayo ug atraso sa ako .. ug dili gyud nako sila mapasaylo. .. wala man pud gani sila mangayo ug pasaylo hinuon.
    grasya ra jud na sa Ginoo bai..kay kung kita lay pabut.on hagbay rang gikunis-kunis ang kontra...Lol

    it would help to think bai nga if sila jud ang nakasala then dili sila mangayo ug pasaylo...sila nay manubag sa Ginoo...
    and kanang atong kalagut, isip Kristyano or even sa tawhanong panghuna-huna lang...it promotes negativity
    aside sa sakit sa dughan, dugang2x lang jud sa atong problema...mao hinaot nga ato nang mabayaw sa Ginoo tanan
    ingun pang master yoda sa star wars...Hate leads to suffering daw..Lol

    if savoring hatred feels good, nothing compares forgiving others...(experienced first hand)
    esp when we remember how Christ died for us in atonement for our sins( Forgiveness)

    pwede pud ka musimba sa simbahan where-in dili tig simbahan ang mga tao nga naay atraso nimu...while naa pa kay kalagut
    plus basa ug Bible...makatabang jud..
    most of all, pangayoa lang jud ang grasya ni Papa God.

    i know you have your reasons bro and i mean no disrespect but i would still encourage you to go the mass for the Sacrament. and to stand for Love as God did for us.
    Last edited by noy; 04-17-2013 at 08:10 PM.

  5. #5725
    next question na pud guro ta?

  6. #5726
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Im referring to the Vatican bro, the link you gave have some answers. I assume man gud that when i say RC as an institution it refers to Vatican in particular kay naa man dha ang Head ug maingun tang Main Office.
    The link talks about Vatican but it is not updated since EURO na man ang currency karon .

    It should suffice as an idea but if you want a birds eye view computations by an accountant , this is the wrong place to ask for it.

    Seriously .... mura na siya ug question na personal kaayo in relationship to the nature. Sama ra na sa mo question ta , pilay nagasto sa pastor pagpabarog sa simbahan ? PIla ang sweldo sa pastor ? Pila gross income niya annually ? Nobody can asnwer that actually but can only generate a guesstimate .

    That is because it is not BIBLICAL . Sama pod na sa current question nimo , di man na siya part sa magisterium .

    Comparison ra na SIO ha , ayaw laina ug sabot.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  7. #5727
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    grasya ra jud na sa Ginoo bai..kay kung kita lay pabut.on hagbay rang gikunis-kunis ang kontra...Lol

    it would help to think bai nga if sila jud ang nakasala then dili sila mangayo ug pasaylo...sila nay manubag sa Ginoo...
    and kanang atong kalagut, isip Kristyano or even sa tawhanong panghuna-huna lang...it promotes negativity
    aside sa sakit sa dughan, dugang2x lang jud sa atong problema...mao hinaot nga ato nang mabayaw sa Ginoo tanan
    ingun pang master yoda sa star wars...Hate leads to suffering daw..Lol

    if savoring hatred feels good, nothing compares forgiving others...(experienced first hand)
    esp when we remember how Christ died for us in atonement for our sins( Forgiveness)

    pwede pud ka musimba sa simbahan where-in dili tig simbahan ang mga tao nga naay atraso nimu...while naa pa kay kalagut
    plus basa ug Bible...makatabang jud..
    most of all, pangayoa lang jud ang grasya ni Papa God.

    i know you have your reasons bro and i mean no disrespect but i would still encourage you to go the mass for the Sacrament. and to stand for Love as God did for us.
    puhon puhon.. murag madala ra noy..

    tig tulogan man ko sa kumbento sa una sa gamay pa ko..

    dili kaayo ko distansya sa Sacramento... lain pud to sa Calif kay layo jud nuon.

  8. #5728
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    The link talks about Vatican but it is not updated since EURO na man ang currency karon .

    It should suffice as an idea but if you want a birds eye view computations by an accountant , this is the wrong place to ask for it.

    Seriously .... mura na siya ug question na personal kaayo in relationship to the nature. Sama ra na sa mo question ta , pilay nagasto sa pastor pagpabarog sa simbahan ? PIla ang sweldo sa pastor ? Pila gross income niya annually ? Nobody can asnwer that actually but can only generate a guesstimate .

    That is because it is not BIBLICAL . Sama pod na sa current question nimo , di man na siya part sa magisterium .

    Comparison ra na SIO ha , ayaw laina ug sabot.
    I understand bro, Nag wonder raman gud ko kay daghan tag mabasa nga Theories about the Vatican controlling the Global Market or economy kay daghan daw kaayu mga dagko nga corporation ang tag iya ang Vatican pero dili sa ila nakapangalan bah.

    But I agree di na siya part sa Doctrina na questions
    Last edited by SioDenz; 04-18-2013 at 09:26 AM.

  9. #5729
    You will be shocked that in actuality .... VATICAN has only 1 bank.

    The SWISS GUARDS are not guards of the SWISS BANK .

    Anyways , next question from our beloved forumers .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  10. #5730
    about sa proper way pag sign of the cross, why man ang uban sa "AMEN" na part kay ilang thumb ilang hagkan or isangko sa suwang?

    but if ako manguros kay proper man jud, after Holy Spirit, i say "Amen" with my both hands touchin.

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