THE OBELISK: a pagan symbol?

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Did Jesus Christ died on the cross,
TS, I wish to know in your own behalf,
what is the meaning of the cross, is it associated
closely with Jesus Christ? and how?
as a Christian or the knowledge about it, you should know about this.

[noy]

yep if we are to use the same concept as how the obelisk is being viewed in this thread,
then as Christians, we ought to be ahamed of the cross of Jesus as well for symbolizing victory over sin
for the cross in its History is shameful and also has its pagan roots.

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yep if we are to use the same concept as how the obelisk is being viewed in this thread,
then as Christians, we ought to be ahamed of the cross of Jesus as well for symbolizing victory over sin
for the cross in its History is shameful and also has its pagan roots.

Correct,
originally a symbol of
a sumerian God called Tammuz

Link: Tammuz (Mesopotamian god) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

[noy]

Correct,
originally a symbol of
a sumerian God called Tammuz

Link: Tammuz (Mesopotamian god) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

plus the fact that dying on the cross was the most shameful and detestable way to die back then
therefore a Christian's act of remembering Jesus' sacrifice and Salvation through the cross
ought to be shameful as well if we are to detest everything that has shameful roots.

[Breakeven]

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most probably youre a JW bro

dili man ang cross maoy object of worship. Christians are taught to worship God in spirit and in truth (John 4:24). The cross means death or a "CURSE" sa bible. Kung atong sabton, ang kamatayon ni Jesus Christ on the cross was the result of God's unfathomable love to us. He died that we may live.

Nakanindot lang, he conquered death and not hanging anymore on the cross.

What is the meaning of the cross?

@noy
murag lahi raman ang meaning bro. kinsa man nga religious figure atong ma relate sa obelisk if i compare nato sa cross? yes the cross is of pagan origins, pero kinsa man ang nagbuot sa cross as the means of Jesus death? the ROMANS.

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plus the fact that dying on the cross was the most shameful and detestable way to die back then
therefore a Christian's act of remembering Jesus' sacrifice and Salvation through the cross
ought to be shameful as well if we are to detest everything that has shameful roots.

Yup,
we are always what we are
in where we came from,
all of us, no exemptions.
We're just Pagan derivatives
that's how we started as what you've mentioned
about that deity called bathala.

OT: Why is that cebuanos are so fond to call their beloved
ikaduhang bathala, are their sweethearts, a second deity (just kidding )

[geo25]

obelisks are phallic in nature and represents fertility

[Breakeven]

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hahaha...murag kadungog manko anang kantaha sa akong apohan.

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most probably youre a JW bro

dili man ang cross maoy object of worship. Christians are taught to worship God in spirit and in truth (John 4:24). The cross means death or a "CURSE" sa bible. Kung atong sabton, ang kamatayon ni Jesus Christ on the cross was the result of God's unfathomable love to us. He died that we may live.

Jehovas Witness Bro,hmmmmm not close,
kahibaw nas bro noy unsa ko.

"...by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." Acts 4:10-12

"I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep." John 10:9-11

I think it's not a curse Bro,
but actually the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross
to save us from our sins,

Can you imagine the most sublime divine deed of God
in saving us from our trespasses,
by way of giving us his only begotten Son Jesus Christ,
was realized using the pagan symbol of the cross.

If God used the cross a pagan symbol
what does this imply.

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hahaha...murag kadungog manko anang kantaha sa akong apohan.

OT:
Same here,
guitar pa intawon ilang duyog sa una,
unya lamaparilya pa ang suga.