Fetus not yet a person according to Catholic Hospital

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Na kat-on ko dire na thread da.

[nausicaa]

It is not yet a person indeed. but "FETUS" is what we called "LIFE", Holy and God's given. GOD bless us all.

[aguanta]

St Thomas Aquinas, in his Summa Theologiea, also believes that the fetus is NOT a human being. This is subscribed to by the Roman Catholic Church in their basic principles and expressed often in various synods and gatherings of their leaders.

Of course, some priest or bishop would often mouth a different line. But, AFAIK, the official stand of Rome has not changed

[Xian120]

not yet a person in terms of citizenship, but a person nonetheless..

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Canyon City, Colorado (CNN) -- Life begins at conception, according to the Catholic Church, but in a wrongful death suit in Colorado, a Catholic healthcare company has argued just the opposite.
A fetus is not legally a person until it is born, the hospital's lawyers have claimed in its defense. And now it may be up to the state's Supreme Court to decide.
Lori Stodghill was 28 weeks pregnant when she went to the emergency room of St. Thomas More Hospital in Canyon City vomiting and short of breath, according to a court document.
She went into cardiac arrest in the lobby.
"Lori looked up at me, and then her head went down on her chest," her husband Jeremy Stodghill, said.
She died at age 31. Her unborn twin boys perished with her. That was New Year's Day 2006.
Stodghill, left behind to raise their then 2-year-old daughter alone, sued the hospital and its owner, Catholic Health Initiatives, for the wrongful deaths of all three.
After about two years of litigation, defense attorneys for the hospital and doctors entered an argument that shocked the widower.
They said that under state law, an embryo is not "person," until it is born alive, according to court documents. The Stodghill's twins were deceased, when they were removed from their mother's lifeless body.
"I didn't even get to hold them," Jeremy Stodghill said. "I have an autopsy picture. That's all I've got."
The court agreed with the argument, and Stodghill lost the suit. The court also ruled against Stodghill in the case of his wife for other legal reasons.
The hospital and doctors sued him for over $118,000 legal fees and attempted to garnish his wages, according to a legal document filed on his behalf.
The defendants offered to forget the fees, if Stodghill dropped his appeal. He refused and filed for bankruptcy to avoid having to pay the claim, which he says he can't afford as he struggles to raise his now 9-year-old daughter Libby.
Stodghill has petitioned the Colorado Supreme Court to hear his case, and he'd like to hear from the Catholic Church.
The Catholic Catholic Bishops of Colorado declined to comment on the legal proceedings but said it will review the litigation and Catholic Health Initiatives' practices "to ensure fidelity and faithful witness to the teachings of the Catholic Church."
Stodghill wears a tattoo on his chest with his unborn sons' footprints, their names and the words "our sons."
He wants the church and his state to see them the same way.

Lawyers for Catholic hospital argue that a fetus is not a person - CNN.com

naa bay written (summon) statement ang St. Thomas More Hospital

maski scanned copy kung walay pdf...


one thing is for sure, the Church believe that a fetus has life...


kung unsa man gani nang gi-ingon bahin sa St. Thomas More Hospital...then wala na sila nagsunod sa magisterium...

the church has procedures sa mga ing-ani...

[machinecult]

We are talking Catholics in generalman bro..

Kung tinood man gani ng follow sila sa law of the land then jam-jam ra diay ning ilaha.

Mao. Dili na maayo ingon ana. Kusog kaayo mu sulti "Separation of Church and State" pero sugot lang pud na ang Estado manghilabot sa Simbahan (o basin nagpahilabot sab ang Simbahan?)

40th Anniversary sa Roe vs. Wade na kaso mao ni gawas ni na issue.

[kit_cebu]

@KIT_CEBU ....

The good thing about your statement is that , you waivered it with the word MIGHT but then , ang unod pod sa imohang gi sulti is purely HATRED and you think you know about it too by generalizing it.

hatred is a bad word...it's more of "why-are-these-people-telling-us-what-to-do-and-they're-not-even-doing it"....
these people are in a better position to help but instead they want people help the other people....

You dont know jack shit on RCC if kutob ra ka anang mga one liners nimo na negativity

i do know from an "article" about the dinero's of the church being invested in banks...

enjoying the limelight focused on being a smart ass here and the rest of the threads you think you can just call the shots .

is it bad to say "touché"?


anyway, on topic, what is it with "declined to comment" when asked?
is this the time they take up to talk about the "moves"?


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[kit_cebu]

saw these two....and it should be Tirong's statement should've been first....

Is the RCC being hypocrites? Yes. We can defend the Church all day but history won't agree. The Church is known for keeping mum when faced with legal threats. It's a surprise the hospital is taking action, going against century-old teachings because someone who lost "three" people decides to f*ck them in their behinds.

It's a legal proceeding based on state laws,
they are being sued,
thus the law of God is not based.

[kit_cebu]

It's a legal proceeding based on state laws,
they are being sued,
thus the law of God is not based.

so, morality is based on what again?

[seven_segment]

saw these two....and it should be Tirong's statement should've been first....

kana kung tinood na ningon ang hospital...

naa bay written (summon) statement ang St. Thomas More Hospital? we need to authenticate this...

mutubag sila sa Ginoo if they really did it...even if dili maproven...kay ang pag prove sa tawo mana nga balaod...dili man ta maka-pamakak sa Ginoo...He knows what is inside our hearts...


moreover, the Church firmly believe...a fetus has life...