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  1. #4451

    Quote Originally Posted by Vanillaskies View Post
    Ask ko ehy catholics are soo much devoted to the black nazarene even if they didn't exist in the bible? There's only one God, but why man murag God na to? Mag-ilog para makapahid lang sa lawas sa statue. Dunno why?
    why are we so devoted to the Holy Trinity when its not also in the bible? Lol
    anyways, Yes there is only one God, the Black nazarene is the image of Jesus carrying a cross
    a statue or image portraying the passion of our Lord Jesus Christ

    the devotees rush to it kay perhaps it is believed to be miraculuos or perhaps
    just something they promised God to do whenever its the feast of the black nazarene.
    or perhpas in faith that at least through the black nazarene, they can get a glimpse of Jesus
    can't really speak on the devotees behalf though..i just stated the common reasons.

    perhaps it's something like this, picture yourself on a concert of your favorite band
    then you get the chance to touch them...what would you do?

  2. #4452
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    question: unsa man gyud angay e celebrate? ang kamatayon or ang pagahimogso ni Jesus
    personally i would celebrate both..
    celebrate birth through merry songs and a happy moments(like what we have during Christmas season)
    celebrate His death by being forever Thankful by claiming His salvation
    and trying to be Faithful by following His commandments in His grace.

  3. #4453
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    personally i would celebrate both..
    celebrate birth through merry songs and a happy moments(like what we have during Christmas season)
    celebrate His death by being forever Thankful by claiming His salvation
    and trying to be Faithful by following His commandments in His grace.
    Ot -bai noy atheist sa ko ron ha...
    ahh mao di ie kung ato basehan ang kalendaryo nag sugod tag January human tag Decemeber... kung kana ato basehan una di ie siyang namatay...sunod lang ang iyang pagka tawo...therefor I conclude sakto di ie si Jovi na reincanate siya hehehe

  4. #4454
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    Ot -bai noy atheist sa ko ron ha...
    ahh mao di ie kung ato basehan ang kalendaryo nag sugod tag January human tag Decemeber... kung kana ato basehan una di ie siyang namatay...sunod lang ang iyang pagka tawo...therefor I conclude sakto di ie si Jovi na reincanate siya hehehe
    OT:inamaw man na imu slabs..Lol na hala what is your proof why God does not exist?hahahaha Lol

  5. #4455
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    OT:inamaw man na imu slabs..Lol na hala what is your proof why God does not exist?hahahaha Lol
    seryoso ni oi...hehehe

    same ra rad na siya sa pangutana what is your prof that god really exist...haha

  6. #4456
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    seryoso ni oi...hehehe

    same ra rad na siya what is your prof that god really exist...haha
    mao ba? seryoso na ka? adto tas pikas thread istorya...haha

  7. #4457
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    mao ba? seryoso na ka? adto tas pikas thread istorya...haha
    OT -geh..kay basin maka ubo tang Mods Spring diri hehehe

  8. #4458
    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    James 1:13 - "When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;"

    So if si Hesus mao ang Diyos, why bother tempting?
    lisod bana sabton?.. between tempted and tempt?.. natural d jud matempted ang God kay kung tempted meaning natintal nah(past tense, the act of tempting is done).

    ikaw pa gani nagpost dha sa James 1:13 that God cant be tempted, wala man miingon no one can tempt God nya ang gibuhat ni taning kay ni attempt paman cya ug tental ni Jesus..hehe

    but wala sad ko kasabot sa imo mga gipanghatag nga verses d sad mupasok jud.. tan.awa balik tas temptation ni Taning ni Jesus.. ana ka c jesus ang gitempt ug gi quote ra ni Jesus ang "thou shall not temp the Lord your God" to remind Satan sa iya gibuhat or to remind Jesus himself para d cya matintal ni taning..

    "Kay if molayat si Hesus, makasala siya sa Diyos kay nahug man nga iya nuon gitest si God."

    meaning imo na nua giguba ang image ni Jesus bro, kbaw gud cya nga anak cya ug Ginuo why itest paman niya iya amahan ug why magpatintal man sad cya?.. mao nani ron..


    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    Matthew 18:20 - "For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them."

    --it's not just God sir, also Jesus. For he has been given all authority in heaven & earth by God, remember? We all subject to Jesus. It's a God-given authority, it doesn't mean that if he can do it, he is God. He's just been given the authority, for Christ himself is still subject to God:

    1 Corinthians 15:27-28 - "For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
    ok so everything God can do Jesus can do it also kay naa cya authority sa heaven ug earth, good!.. but Jesus can never be called God para ninyo.. so clear ani ni imo giingon dre..

    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    --kani sir grabe kaayo ni katin-aw impossible dili masabtan ang logic ani napa gani:

    1 Corinthians 11:3 - "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."
    para nako gipakita dre kung kinsay masunod wala nay problema sa mga RC, klaro sad na kaau..


    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    sir, wala may duda, God is our Saviour, not just Jesus. He is even the savior of the people before Jesus came to being:

    2 Samuel 22:3 - "my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior--from violent men you save me." New International Version (©1984)
    ^i forgot the name of the king..might be David?

    Luke 1:47 - "and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior," New International Version (©1984)
    ^said Mary when she received the good news.

    -- so it's not impossible to name God a Savior, Jesus is a Savior too but not God. Let's take a look again sa Titus 1:4:

    Titus 1:4 - " To Titus, my true son in our common faith:
    Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior."

    ^gibuwag jud og acknowledge ang God og si Jesus. If ikaw ang magsuwat ani, lain man pud og "God the Savior and Jesus the Savior" di ba? Himoon nalang jud nimo unta nimog "God, who is Jesus our Savior" di ba if one & same ra cla.
    then explain this..

    Isaiah 43:11 I am, I am the Lord: and there is no savior besides me.

    quite contradicting, what you think?..


    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    --di man libog kung unsa si Jesus sir. Tin-aw man kaayo ang mga verses sa Bible nga dili siya ang Diyos, dili na kinahanglan huna2x-on og maayo unya ang "Jesus-is-God" verses kay pwerte hanapa..samot nag butangan og "mystery2x" kunohay. kana ako gipang-cite di pa na tanan nga verses nga nagstate sa fact nga si Jesus is infact a "very-special" man, for he was born from a virgin woman, an appointed Son of God(after sa baptism didto sa River Jordan courtesy of John the Baptist), the only man that didn't commit any sin(1 Peter 2:22) and is given the authority of all heaven & earth by the Father(Matthew 28:1
    we acknowledge that Jesus is a special man as well as he is also God and we have verses ana to prove, lahi lahi lang jud ang pagsabot sa bible.. if d ka kauyon sa opinion sa uban religion the way they explain ayaw lang sad ug think nga ikaw ray sakto murag imo man gud gibelittle ang uban based sa imo mga posts just because daghan kag reference sa bible.. hunahunaa ang mga tao dre deli kinaon bible if ganahan jud ka makig one on one ad2 kas mga defender sa faith sa isig ka religion dre.. though murag daghan2 sad ko nakat.onan nimo sa tinuod lang..hehehe

    I thought Mary was sinless too?..

    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    --kani sir ako nalang ni kay dili lalim mag-research sa Bible, sus pwerti kapoya kay dapat ipreserve jud nimo ang meaning sa verse, dili "ma-twist". I'm not also allowed to do this since dili ko usa ka missionary, nishare lang ko sa ako nahibal-an. Let's just say I'm an enlightened man and I don't have anymore questions about God and I believe in the Bible, and it's spiritual harmony -> meaning, the Bible itself, with it's many books(don't include the apocrypha books please, they're just added by the RCC esp those books were written after the death of Jesus & the Apostles, they're not accepted by scholars as 'legit' :P) have no contradictions within it.
    don't be too confident to say this bro asa mana gikan ninyo gikuha inyo bible sa RCC bya nya krn lahi raba ang translation sa inyo bible ug sa RCC, itandi rana inyo bible sa uban protestants ug sa RCC sad dba lain lain sad mo ug translations.. pagsure mo dha kung kinsa ang dapat magpreserve sa translations..

    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    Trivia: the doctrine about Trinity is just from Tertullian himself in the 3rd century, more than a hundred years from the death of Christ & the apostles.

    Acts 20:29 - "I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you after I leave, not sparing the flock." New Living Translation (©2007)

    ^a warning from Apostle Paul himself, warning those in the flock what will definitely happen when the time of his death will come. The flock(church) will not even be spared. He foretold the Apostasy. (

    thank you sir
    hahaha ok bro makatawa man sad ta nimo.. makaremember man nua kos ako amahan cge ingon "kinsay kusog muputak mao toy nangitlog"..hahaha

    "no one is more hopelessly blinded from the truth than those who believe they are enlightened"

    Food for thought...
    Last edited by dartzed; 01-10-2013 at 10:37 PM.

  9. #4459
    Mangutana lang ko sa mga igsoong Katoliko, kana bang mahimong mga Santo or mga Santa miagi gyud na sila tanan ug canonization? Salamat daan.
    Last edited by JcBoY; 01-10-2013 at 09:15 PM.

  10. #4460
    Quote Originally Posted by JcBoY View Post
    Mangutana lang ko sa mga igsoong Katoliko, kana bang mahimong mga Santo or mga Santa miagi gyud na sila tanan ug canonization? Salamat daan.
    murag niagi gyud na sila tanan bro...

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